Add more traits and change behavior of traits

Just doing some brainstorming right now.

I would rather have several weaker traits than have a few strong ones. (Meaning in the trait collection AND the traits you may select for a sim). When I say strength of traits, I am talking about the impact it has on the sim.

You can custom tailor the sim in the way you would like it be choosing from a large selection of traits. That is why I emphasized the idea of introducing a behavioral traits tab so it would get new functionality. I just don't think 3 traits can adequately represent a person's personality. In real life, you may have up to 10 traits. But for now, I think 5 for a sim is reasonable.

As a side-discussion. I always thought the trait system in Sims 2 was a nightmare. Remember you had to pick between lazy/active, shy/outgoing, clean/sloppy, and then you had to use precisely that predetermined amount of points. I never liked that system of determining traits/personality.

Just whims that actually make sense with Sims traits would be nice.

My unflirty Sim keeps wanting to flirt or kiss her wife... and at the same time she wants to reprimands flirty Sims.. I mean... really?

And yes, they all behave the same anyway.

But yes, 4/5 traits would make more sense. We all have more than that...

"BreeNilla;c-16533134" wrote:
This is what I want!! I want an outgoing sim to be more animated when speaking while a shyer sim speaks softer! I want a serious/no sense of humor sim who would prefer to read for fun instead of dancing or playing video games! I know they said the chances are slim for adding new emotions, but I think the game would really benefit from a Fear emotion so that Brave and Coward can return! Then brave sims would have no problem putting out fires or conversing with occults while cowards stay away! I want perfectionists to not only take longer when crafting, but also affect family members and those around them, criticizing them to be perfect too (yell at kids with failing grades, point out flaws to spouse or friends)!

I want traits to actually influence the personality and animations and actions rather than giving an occasional skill buff or moodlet.

I used to want more than 3 traits, but I feel that if they were done correctly and had more impact on how the sim acts, then 3 is fine.

Yes.
The sims in Sims 2 where more like this. You could tell the difference between a shy or outgoing sim by the way they reacted...and they didn't even have traits, just a slider!

"Anthonydyer;c-16533257" wrote:
As a side-discussion. I always thought the trait system in Sims 2 was a nightmare. Remember you had to pick between lazy/active, shy/outgoing, clean/sloppy, and then you had to use precisely that predetermined amount of points. I never liked that system of determining traits/personality.

They DID have personality though.
They even had mannerisms particular to their 'trait'. If you set all their personality points even, then you'd get a sim like the ones in Sims 4.

"Anthonydyer;c-16526481" wrote:
Perhaps as a compromise, they could allow up to 5, but not require you to select 5.

Or maybe pick 4 traits?

"Anthonydyer;c-16533257" wrote:
As a side-discussion. I always thought the trait system in Sims 2 was a nightmare. Remember you had to pick between lazy/active, shy/outgoing, clean/sloppy, and then you had to use precisely that predetermined amount of points. I never liked that system of determining traits/personality.

I agree, that was pretty bad - but even then, like Susim62 said - they still had more "personality" than the sims in Sims 4. The Sims 4 has lots of random interactions such as doing autonomous pushups and vampires hissing (whether or not they have the hiss negative trait on their vamp bar) and unfortunately part of me thinks that's what some of the game devs think is displaying personality, but it really isn't.

What if the traits were split into sub-traits like the life wishes? This would allow many traits to be bundled together into one category without overloading the trait menu or making things too complicated. For example an Active sim might have the choices of being a Dance Machine or a Workout Enthusiast (made up trait but you get the idea). That would at least explain the random dancing/push ups.

I guess thinking about it this idea has lots of flaws too, but you see where I'm going with this right?

Sims from Sims 2 are pretty sassy! I remember when they fake call in sick, you can see them call their boss, fake cough, and then make a sinister laugh. The gestures are pretty wild too, I remember there is one where they do some strange Tarzan yell.

I wish EA would add more traits. I want to see traits like Serious, Sarcastic, Moron,etc. I'd also love it if Sims would start acting different. I want evil Sims to do evil things, not become friends with everyone. I want bookworms to read books, not "Troll Teh Forums". EA really needs to overhaul their systems.

I'd also love to see Sims stop learning unwanted skills, and for Sims to stay put where I leave them. I'm tired of seeing Sim Ballora learning Mischief and Comedy skills(she's supposed to be high-class and serious), and I'm tired of seeing Sim Sheldon gaining skills in violin(he's supposed to be a computer nerd,not a musician). And Sim Usagi Tsukino? She's not supposed to be learning how to be a good cook-she's supposed to be gaining video game skills. And regarding Sims not staying put where you leave them: Please,EA-just keep Sims at home where I leave them. I'm sick of having to go fetch wandering Sims because they decided to leave their house in Newcrest to go visit Brindleton Bay or Oasis Springs.

I do agree that sims will engage in behaviors that are undesired, such as autonomously learning a skill that does not go with their traits. I do like how sims may wander between lots and cities as it keeps the game interesting, but I am annoyed with how they will not commit to one activity at a time. You have a sim sit on the couch and they are just chomping at the bit to get up and do something else. You have a sim sit at the kitchen table to eat and they will get up and eat while standing for no reason.

But I do like multitasking, so I am not complaining about that.