Yup. I'm saying it... after EA's complete lack of self awareness and common sense today, I'm officially terrified to see how Seasons will be implemented into The Sims 4. Until now, I've been trying to give them the benefit of the doubt and thinking that they would NEVER divide Seasons into separate packs, but after seeing what they just did to Cats & Dogs, I'm HORRIFIED! All the content in the upcoming stuff pack is stuff that should've already been included in the most recent expansion pack... I guess Sims 4 truly has become nothing but a cash cow... which means Seasons certainly won't go well... I can imagine it going like this: Sims 4: Spring Expansion Pack Sims 4: Summer Game Pack Sims 4: Fall Stuff PackAnd we simply won't get winter... the reason for that is because the developers will come up with all kinds of excuses... "It's too hard" and "The snow is too glitchy" would be the top two excuses. Plus, they'll probably throw in the "Weird stories" tagline to justify the existence of only 3 seasons in the game. Also, for anyone who's going to argue against my stance or tell me that I'm "overreacting", why would that be? EA has literally just proven my point about this.

"@Lustianicia;d-936359" wrote:Yup. I'm saying it... after EA's complete lack of self awareness and common sense today, I'm officially terrified to see how Seasons will be implemented into The Sims 4. Until now, I've been trying to give them the benefit of the doubt and thinking that they would NEVER divide Seasons into separate packs, but after seeing what they just did to Cats & Dogs, I'm HORRIFIED! All the content in the upcoming stuff pack is stuff that should've already been included in the most recent expansion pack... I guess Sims 4 truly has become nothing but a cash cow... which means Seasons certainly won't go well... I can imagine it going like this: Sims 4: Spring Expansion Pack Sims 4: Summer Game Pack Sims 4: Fall Stuff PackAnd we simply won't get winter... the reason for that is because the developers will come up with all kinds of excuses... "It's too hard" and "The snow is too glitchy" would be the top two excuses. Plus, they'll probably throw in the "Weird stories" tagline to justify the existence of only 3 seasons in the game. Also, for anyone who's going to argue against my stance or tell me that I'm "overreacting", why would that be? EA has literally just proven my point about this.Haha~ I can think better!!!Sims 4: Spring The Farming Expansion.Sims 4: Summer The Beach Resort.Sims 4: Fall The Dairy Ranch StampeSims 4: Winter: Ski-Resort Vacation

"Ancaryvan;c-16364953" wrote:"@Lustianicia;d-936359" wrote:Yup. I'm saying it... after EA's complete lack of self awareness and common sense today, I'm officially terrified to see how Seasons will be implemented into The Sims 4. Until now, I've been trying to give them the benefit of the doubt and thinking that they would NEVER divide Seasons into separate packs, but after seeing what they just did to Cats & Dogs, I'm HORRIFIED! All the content in the upcoming stuff pack is stuff that should've already been included in the most recent expansion pack... I guess Sims 4 truly has become nothing but a cash cow... which means Seasons certainly won't go well... I can imagine it going like this: Sims 4: Spring Expansion Pack Sims 4: Summer Game Pack Sims 4: Fall Stuff PackAnd we simply won't get winter... the reason for that is because the developers will come up with all kinds of excuses... "It's too hard" and "The snow is too glitchy" would be the top two excuses. Plus, they'll probably throw in the "Weird stories" tagline to justify the existence of only 3 seasons in the game. Also, for anyone who's going to argue against my stance or tell me that I'm "overreacting", why would that be? EA has literally just proven my point about this.Haha~ I can think better!!!Sims 4: Spring The Farming Expansion.Sims 4: Summer The Beach Resort.Sims 4: Fall The Dairy Ranch StampeSims 4: Winter: Ski-Resort VacationWhat's truly laughable is the fact that you actually think they'll add farming, beach resorts, dairy ranches, and ski resorts into the game... lol

"Ancaryvan;c-16364953" wrote:"@Lustianicia;d-936359" wrote:Yup. I'm saying it... after EA's complete lack of self awareness and common sense today, I'm officially terrified to see how Seasons will be implemented into The Sims 4. Until now, I've been trying to give them the benefit of the doubt and thinking that they would NEVER divide Seasons into separate packs, but after seeing what they just did to Cats & Dogs, I'm HORRIFIED! All the content in the upcoming stuff pack is stuff that should've already been included in the most recent expansion pack... I guess Sims 4 truly has become nothing but a cash cow... which means Seasons certainly won't go well... I can imagine it going like this: Sims 4: Spring Expansion Pack Sims 4: Summer Game Pack Sims 4: Fall Stuff PackAnd we simply won't get winter... the reason for that is because the developers will come up with all kinds of excuses... "It's too hard" and "The snow is too glitchy" would be the top two excuses. Plus, they'll probably throw in the "Weird stories" tagline to justify the existence of only 3 seasons in the game. Also, for anyone who's going to argue against my stance or tell me that I'm "overreacting", why would that be? EA has literally just proven my point about this.Haha~ I can think better!!!Sims 4: Spring The Farming Expansion.Sims 4: Summer The Beach Resort.Sims 4: Fall The Dairy Ranch StampeSims 4: Winter: Ski-Resort VacationMore like Sims 4 Spring then shortly followed by farming SPSummer GP followed by beach SPand so on..Fall GP followed by falling leaves SP (I won't even be surprised) I don't know whether to cry or laugh

Thanks for giving them more ideas... -_-

I hate having a negative spirit towards my favorite gaming franchise, but I have to say, I totally agree with you OP. There's been a tendency ever since the release of The Sims 4 to give us smaller and smaller packs, that just fill out smaller portions of gameplay. For instance, they could've given us a Vacation expansion with 3 (or more) vacation spots, tons of clothes, building designs, interior that would fit those spots and different sets of activities for each spot (I'm reminded of TS2: Bon Voyage, where they did this), instead they come up with "game packs" that have by now given us two vacation spots, with marginally less interior, clothing and activities for each spot. The possibilites for these vacations are endless, but still they chose to give us 2-3 things to do pr pack, instead of a huge pack (that would cost more, sure) that would've completed one style of play (vacations/traveling).I see this tendency with most other packs in TS4 as well. They keep dividing up the categories(travel, work, pets etc) into different packs, which makes it in total look like there's a ton of stuff to do, but in reality it's a lot less content than previous games. Nothing feel finished anymore, you know? God knows how many more vacation spots they're gonna come up with, that gives us 1 piece of clothing, 1 hairstyle, 1 new couch and the option to do 1 more thing in that new world. I hate complaining as this is my favorite game, but everytime they announce a new pack, the first thing I notice is that it just feels rushed, money driven and not like it used to be. I've put in several thousand hours into this franchise and it's just sad to feel disappointed everytime there's a new pack. I don't even care about WHAT kind of pack it is anymore or how much it costs, it could be anything, just please.. give us.. MORE.

After today's announcement, I'm officially afraid of Sims 4: Seasons...

Ancaryvan
Seasoned Newcomer
7 years ago
"@Lustianicia;d-936359" wrote:
Yup. I'm saying it... after EA's complete lack of self awareness and common sense today, I'm officially terrified to see how Seasons will be implemented into The Sims 4. Until now, I've been trying to give them the benefit of the doubt and thinking that they would NEVER divide Seasons into separate packs, but after seeing what they just did to Cats & Dogs, I'm HORRIFIED! All the content in the upcoming stuff pack is stuff that should've already been included in the most recent expansion pack... I guess Sims 4 truly has become nothing but a cash cow... which means Seasons certainly won't go well...

I can imagine it going like this:
Sims 4: Spring Expansion Pack
Sims 4: Summer Game Pack
Sims 4: Fall Stuff Pack

And we simply won't get winter... the reason for that is because the developers will come up with all kinds of excuses... "It's too hard" and "The snow is too glitchy" would be the top two excuses. Plus, they'll probably throw in the "Weird stories" tagline to justify the existence of only 3 seasons in the game.

Also, for anyone who's going to argue against my stance or tell me that I'm "overreacting", why would that be? EA has literally just proven my point about this.

Haha~ I can think better!!!

Sims 4: Spring The Farming Expansion.
Sims 4: Summer The Beach Resort.
Sims 4: Fall The Dairy Ranch Stampe
Sims 4: Winter: Ski-Resort Vacation
Lustianicia
7 years ago
"Ancaryvan;c-16364953" wrote:
"@Lustianicia;d-936359" wrote:
Yup. I'm saying it... after EA's complete lack of self awareness and common sense today, I'm officially terrified to see how Seasons will be implemented into The Sims 4. Until now, I've been trying to give them the benefit of the doubt and thinking that they would NEVER divide Seasons into separate packs, but after seeing what they just did to Cats & Dogs, I'm HORRIFIED! All the content in the upcoming stuff pack is stuff that should've already been included in the most recent expansion pack... I guess Sims 4 truly has become nothing but a cash cow... which means Seasons certainly won't go well...

I can imagine it going like this:
Sims 4: Spring Expansion Pack
Sims 4: Summer Game Pack
Sims 4: Fall Stuff Pack

And we simply won't get winter... the reason for that is because the developers will come up with all kinds of excuses... "It's too hard" and "The snow is too glitchy" would be the top two excuses. Plus, they'll probably throw in the "Weird stories" tagline to justify the existence of only 3 seasons in the game.

Also, for anyone who's going to argue against my stance or tell me that I'm "overreacting", why would that be? EA has literally just proven my point about this.

Haha~ I can think better!!!

Sims 4: Spring The Farming Expansion.
Sims 4: Summer The Beach Resort.
Sims 4: Fall The Dairy Ranch Stampe
Sims 4: Winter: Ski-Resort Vacation

What's truly laughable is the fact that you actually think they'll add farming, beach resorts, dairy ranches, and ski resorts into the game... lol
graventh8
Rising Novice
7 years ago
"Ancaryvan;c-16364953" wrote:
"@Lustianicia;d-936359" wrote:
Yup. I'm saying it... after EA's complete lack of self awareness and common sense today, I'm officially terrified to see how Seasons will be implemented into The Sims 4. Until now, I've been trying to give them the benefit of the doubt and thinking that they would NEVER divide Seasons into separate packs, but after seeing what they just did to Cats & Dogs, I'm HORRIFIED! All the content in the upcoming stuff pack is stuff that should've already been included in the most recent expansion pack... I guess Sims 4 truly has become nothing but a cash cow... which means Seasons certainly won't go well...

I can imagine it going like this:
Sims 4: Spring Expansion Pack
Sims 4: Summer Game Pack
Sims 4: Fall Stuff Pack

And we simply won't get winter... the reason for that is because the developers will come up with all kinds of excuses... "It's too hard" and "The snow is too glitchy" would be the top two excuses. Plus, they'll probably throw in the "Weird stories" tagline to justify the existence of only 3 seasons in the game.

Also, for anyone who's going to argue against my stance or tell me that I'm "overreacting", why would that be? EA has literally just proven my point about this.

Haha~ I can think better!!!

Sims 4: Spring The Farming Expansion.
Sims 4: Summer The Beach Resort.
Sims 4: Fall The Dairy Ranch Stampe
Sims 4: Winter: Ski-Resort Vacation

More like Sims 4 Spring then shortly followed by farming SP
Summer GP followed by beach SP
and so on..
Fall GP followed by falling leaves SP (I won't even be surprised)
I don't know whether to cry or laugh
paradiseplanet27
Seasoned Newcomer
7 years ago
Thanks for giving them more ideas... -_-
Tetra209
7 years ago
I hate having a negative spirit towards my favorite gaming franchise, but I have to say, I totally agree with you OP. There's been a tendency ever since the release of The Sims 4 to give us smaller and smaller packs, that just fill out smaller portions of gameplay.
For instance, they could've given us a Vacation expansion with 3 (or more) vacation spots, tons of clothes, building designs, interior that would fit those spots and different sets of activities for each spot (I'm reminded of TS2: Bon Voyage, where they did this), instead they come up with "game packs" that have by now given us two vacation spots, with marginally less interior, clothing and activities for each spot. The possibilites for these vacations are endless, but still they chose to give us 2-3 things to do pr pack, instead of a huge pack (that would cost more, sure) that would've completed one style of play (vacations/traveling).

I see this tendency with most other packs in TS4 as well. They keep dividing up the categories(travel, work, pets etc) into different packs, which makes it in total look like there's a ton of stuff to do, but in reality it's a lot less content than previous games. Nothing feel finished anymore, you know? God knows how many more vacation spots they're gonna come up with, that gives us 1 piece of clothing, 1 hairstyle, 1 new couch and the option to do 1 more thing in that new world.

I hate complaining as this is my favorite game, but everytime they announce a new pack, the first thing I notice is that it just feels rushed, money driven and not like it used to be. I've put in several thousand hours into this franchise and it's just sad to feel disappointed everytime there's a new pack.

I don't even care about WHAT kind of pack it is anymore or how much it costs, it could be anything, just please.. give us.. MORE.
Lustianicia
7 years ago
"Emmely_Bettine;c-16365041" wrote:
I hate having a negative spirit towards my favorite gaming franchise, but I have to say, I totally agree with you OP. There's been a tendency ever since the release of The Sims 4 to give us smaller and smaller packs, that just fill out smaller portions of gameplay.
For instance, they could've given us a Vacation expansion with 3 (or more) vacation spots, tons of clothes, building designs, interior that would fit those spots and different sets of activities for each spot (I'm reminded of TS2: Bon Voyage, where they did this), instead they come up with "game packs" that have by now given us two vacation spots, with marginally less interior, clothing and activities for each spot. The possibilites for these vacations are endless, but still they chose to give us 2-3 things to do pr pack, instead of a huge pack (that would cost more, sure) that would've completed one style of play (vacations/traveling).

I see this tendency with most other packs in TS4 as well. They keep dividing up the categories(travel, work, pets etc) into different packs, which makes it in total look like there's a ton of stuff to do, but in reality it's a lot less content than previous games. Nothing feel finished anymore, you know? God knows how many more vacation spots they're gonna come up with, that gives us 1 piece of clothing, 1 hairstyle, 1 new couch and the option to do 1 more thing in that new world.

I hate complaining as this is my favorite game, but everytime they announce a new pack, the first thing I notice is that it just feels rushed, money driven and not like it used to be. I've put in several thousand hours into this franchise and it's just sad to feel disappointed everytime there's a new pack.

I don't even care about WHAT kind of pack it is anymore or how much it costs, it could be anything, just please.. give us.. MORE.

The Sims has always been one of my favorite video games ever, so I understand the pain as well... but it gets so infuriating! Especially when previous games (especially Sims 2) were more about pleasing the players, as opposed to simply just making money. To be honest, I cannot think of a single criticism about any of the expansion or stuff packs that were released for Sims 2 when it comes to features and content. Those packs were filled with new things to do every time. It was never lacking. Sims 3 was almost the same, but more of a hit or miss with each pack. But it was still much better than what we're getting now.

I mean, there needs to be an end to how much we can tolerate until we start saying enough is enough. I honestly can't take much more of their greediness. This upcoming stuff pack is seriously infuriating to even think about. And it'll probably be the first one I'll skip completely... even if it does go on sale. It's not worth the price... and it never will be.

Sims 1, Sims 2, and Sims 3 all had pet expansion packs... and each one was filled with new types of animals (dogs, cats, small animals, etc)... then suddenly Sims 4 decided to release a Cats & Dogs expansion pack that only included cats and dogs... and now we officially know why this happened in the first place. It's because they probably planned this all along. But it says A LOT about how greedy they've become when even past games didn't pull something even remotely similar to this. It's just like how Sims 4 apartments require a loading screen to simply visit our neighbors, but even Sims 2 didn't require a loading screen for that.
Tetra209
7 years ago
"Lustianicia;c-16365067" wrote:
The Sims has always been one of my favorite video games ever, so I understand the pain as well... but it gets so infuriating! Especially when previous games (especially Sims 2) were more about pleasing the players, as opposed to simply just making money. To be honest, I cannot think of a single criticism about any of the expansion or stuff packs that were released for Sims 2 when it comes to features and content. Those packs were filled with new things to do every time. It was never lacking

Yeah, I remember I was active on the sims forum back in TS2 times, and it was nothing but cheer every time new content was released. Every time they got us either an expansion or a stuff pack, it would always live up to the name of the pack. On the back of the game cover (this was when you had to buy them in the store lol), they would usually write something like "more than X amount of items!". Now they don't, because the amount of clothes, interior etc isn't really something amazing anymore lol.

"Lustianicia;c-16365067" wrote:

I mean, there needs to be an end to how much we can tolerate until we start saying enough is enough.

And I want to take a stand. I write on these forums, like many others, but what else can we do? I am a huge fan and I want to have every DLC because I just have to. If the sales drop, there's a chance they'll listen, but they also might not have budget to make the game we want though.

After they announced the "game pack"-format back when the release of TS4 was coming, I knew something like this would happen. Less content. It makes me sad, really. :'(
DeKaythePUNK
Seasoned Vanguard
7 years ago
Hey, I'll take what I can get.
Pegasyms
New Spectator
7 years ago
I don't think it's quite the same thing. The last EP was named "Cats and Dogs" and people knew up front, it was only cats and dogs. Many, if not most people were okay with that. It was also pretty clear that there was a future opportunity for further pets down the road.

Whereas I can't think that anyone would be okay with the Seasons being split up into different packs. I just don't see that happening.
BadCowboy1969
7 years ago
I bet this means University would get the same...Freshman pack, Sophomore pack, Junior pack, Senior pack...gradutation pack pfft