am i the only that thinks the sims 4 looks empty?

glad to see alot of people agree with me here. the sims 4 feels cheaper than the sims 3 which is the biggest part of the problem and i honestly lost hope for the sims 4 at this point being better than sims 3 :/ i mean how dont we have cars yet???

"adamzaid;c-17301009" wrote:
glad to see alot of people agree with me here. the sims 4 feels cheaper than the sims 3 which is the biggest part of the problem and i honestly lost hope for the sims 4 at this point being better than sims 3 :/ i mean how dont we have cars yet???

So your problem with Sims 4 feeling empty is not all the stuff some think are missing but the fact it is just missing cars. Do you feel the same way over Sims 1 seeing it not only did not have personal owned cars, it had no days off from work or school, was missing entire life stages, I don't believe it ever had Seasons - although you could vacation in a seasonal place, it never had personal cars either and it actually had real roads which Sims 4 doesn't have - it has paths made to look like roads in fx and walking paths only. It would have been easier to have personal cars in Sims 1 and it never did. So do you dislike that Sims game too? Just curious, not trying to be rude - if you would call that one empty and it was missing a lot that Sims 4 is not, yet is the game that launched and started our love of the Sims games.

Do you know, I'm totally baffled by the obsession with cars lately? I can't help wonder if it's only because you haven't got them that you want them...
I'm actually quite pleased cars aren't in the game - I'm seeing the sims walking around town, not taking a car to drive 30 yards down the road and get out again.

Where I live, I'm in the centre of town so we walk everywhere. We don't take a car, or a cab just to go to the shops. We walk it and that's why I prefer not having cars in Sims 4. The sims in 3 just got obsessive about them and used them, or cabs, to go everywhere. It feels more realistic, for me, to have sims walking around the neighbourhood.

okay 1. what do some of ya'll have against walking? with the way the game's set up we don't need cars

and 2. i think how "empty" the game feels depends on how you play. if you're constantly playing the same sort of thing (family, single sim, occult, etc), or playing the game a lot in general, then mix it up a little. play a style you wouldn't usually play. try a challenge if you don't usually do them. take a step back from the game for a month or two and then come back to it. and if you still truly feel it's "empty", then there's no one forcing you to keep playing

Honestly I think the engine was the biggest downfall of the Sims 4. TS4 feels a lot closer to TS1 than any of the others in terms of built-in limitations, and don't get me wrong, I love TS1, it's clearly outdated. To me, it seems like EA was much more concerned with having a game that LOOKED like it ran smoothly, even when it didn't, than they were with making a game that actually ran smoothly and was enjoyable to play.

Mods are its only saving grace, in my opinion, and even then, with the constant updates, I get fed up with having to keep my mods up to date. I truthfully can't wait for The Sims 4 to be FINISHED. I don't even necessarily care if they start on TS5 (which they most likely will, because $$$). I just want it to be over with so that I can shop for mods and know that anything uploaded after a certain date is compatible, and use them to make the game I wanted TS4 to be from the get-go.

There is not necessarily something wrong with a game just because its layout doesn't appeal to everyone's tastes. When that happens, you go and play something else - like a previous iteration or a Grand Theft Auto game, or whatever.

Whatever this alleged emptiness covers, the very basic design of the game world won't likely get revamped. And then just to have the complainers complain again about something new a couple of weeks later? That is sadly often the nature of these things ;)

Perhaps The Sims 5 will be an open world. I would accept The Sims 4 for what it is and move on.

"Writin_Reg;c-17300999" wrote:

"kaylin205;c-17300977" wrote:
Also for double the price, they aren't done milking the cow just yet.

Well they have a long way to go to catch up to Sims 3 - I own everything made by Maxis for sims 3 and It comes to 3600 dollars and that is just things I bought - not including content I was gifted. Now was that milking too - and I don't regret anything and love all the choices I have. I enjoy using all my Sims 3 content, and Sims 2 content and Sims 4 content. Keep in mind no body but each of us makes us buy anything. So a bit hard to call it milking when we are the one who decides to buy the content. Maxis doesn't even go out of their way to show us how much we should want this stuff or need it - so really we decide for ourselves we have to have it. That's not milking where I come from. No one is forced to buy anything. Be glad they make it - it is our choice to buy it or not.

Oh and not double the price Sims 3 eps were 39.99 and sps were 19.99 when the game was being developed and we almost never had all the sales Sims 4 gets. Even one of the sps in Sims 3 was 30.00 when it came out. I bought them all because I liked them - it was my choice - and I never considered that milking either.

The store isn’t essential. And lots of people got items for free through watching ads and registering expansions. I’ve never paid for store content and I have a lot.

Try playing sims 4 without any stuff packs. It will be boring. Sims 3 is playable without store content.

Sims 2 expansions for me were £19.99
Sims 3 expansions are 29.99 (even now)
Stuff packs are 12.99 when I bought mine.

Sims 4 expansions are 34.99
Stuff packs are cheaper but game packs are 17.99. I have all dlc for all three sims games and just missing two or three packs from sims 4 and it’s is the most expensive to date if you own it all, that’s a fact.

"MidnightAura;c-17301154" wrote:

"Writin_Reg;c-17300999" wrote:

"kaylin205;c-17300977" wrote:
Also for double the price, they aren't done milking the cow just yet.

Well they have a long way to go to catch up to Sims 3 - I own everything made by Maxis for sims 3 and It comes to 3600 dollars and that is just things I bought - not including content I was gifted. Now was that milking too - and I don't regret anything and love all the choices I have. I enjoy using all my Sims 3 content, and Sims 2 content and Sims 4 content. Keep in mind no body but each of us makes us buy anything. So a bit hard to call it milking when we are the one who decides to buy the content. Maxis doesn't even go out of their way to show us how much we should want this stuff or need it - so really we decide for ourselves we have to have it. That's not milking where I come from. No one is forced to buy anything. Be glad they make it - it is our choice to buy it or not.

Oh and not double the price Sims 3 eps were 39.99 and sps were 19.99 when the game was being developed and we almost never had all the sales Sims 4 gets. Even one of the sps in Sims 3 was 30.00 when it came out. I bought them all because I liked them - it was my choice - and I never considered that milking either.

The store isn’t essential. And lots of people got items for free through watching ads and registering expansions. I’ve never paid for store content and I have a lot.

Try playing sims 4 without any stuff packs. It will be boring. Sims 3 is playable without store content.

Sims 2 expansions for me were £19.99
Sims 3 expansions are 29.99 (even now)
Stuff packs are 12.99 when I bought mine.

Sims 4 expansions are 34.99
Stuff packs are cheaper but game packs are 17.99. I have all dlc for all three sims games and just missing two or three packs from sims 4 and it’s is the most expensive to date if you own it all, that’s a fact.

For you maybe. I've had plenty of enjoyable simming sessions where I didn't interact with any stuff pack content.

"MidnightAura;c-17301154" wrote:

"Writin_Reg;c-17300999" wrote:

"kaylin205;c-17300977" wrote:
Also for double the price, they aren't done milking the cow just yet.

Well they have a long way to go to catch up to Sims 3 - I own everything made by Maxis for sims 3 and It comes to 3600 dollars and that is just things I bought - not including content I was gifted. Now was that milking too - and I don't regret anything and love all the choices I have. I enjoy using all my Sims 3 content, and Sims 2 content and Sims 4 content. Keep in mind no body but each of us makes us buy anything. So a bit hard to call it milking when we are the one who decides to buy the content. Maxis doesn't even go out of their way to show us how much we should want this stuff or need it - so really we decide for ourselves we have to have it. That's not milking where I come from. No one is forced to buy anything. Be glad they make it - it is our choice to buy it or not.

Oh and not double the price Sims 3 eps were 39.99 and sps were 19.99 when the game was being developed and we almost never had all the sales Sims 4 gets. Even one of the sps in Sims 3 was 30.00 when it came out. I bought them all because I liked them - it was my choice - and I never considered that milking either.

The store isn’t essential. And lots of people got items for free through watching ads and registering expansions. I’ve never paid for store content and I have a lot.

Try playing sims 4 without any stuff packs. It will be boring. Sims 3 is playable without store content.

Sims 2 expansions for me were £19.99
Sims 3 expansions are 29.99 (even now)
Stuff packs are 12.99 when I bought mine.

Sims 4 expansions are 34.99
Stuff packs are cheaper but game packs are 17.99. I have all dlc for all three sims games and just missing two or three packs from sims 4 and it’s is the most expensive to date if you own it all, that’s a fact.

Well I guess it depends on where you live but the prices I gave is the prices I paid at Origin or Amazon. I did not care much for most of the rabbit holes that were not essential so I bought the working businesses from the store. They are a lot of fun and you can physically go into them and make stuff and buy stuff. If you preferred rabbit holes then I guess you didn't need the store. I also love the Unique worlds in the store - the game had very few like them - so I bought them as well - if you didn't like them well I see your point in not paying for them either but my choice was I had to have them. Back in those days I had less time to be here and less time to watch ads for tiny bits of money for hours. I did get some good deals in that machine they had that would finish a package if you had part of it, especially furniture and clothing sets. Eventually I had the whole store. But the prices I gave are the prices I paid in the USA.

You say Sims 4 eps are 34.99 but my husband just pre-ordered and pre-paid for Discover University and paid 42.99 for it - that includes taxes of 3 dollars. That's what I paid for every Sims 4 ep that I have bought. I have been gifted some as well. Thank goodness seeing I don't have the kind of money I had during Sims 3 days - illness like mine takes care of that. But I am not missing any packs and enjoy them all. I do not find the game empty or boring - believe me it is a good thing as it keeps me smiling and my mind busy when other wise I couldn't do anything else between treatments. Maybe I have good reason to like it because of my situation - I can't say - I just know that I do and it just makes me happy.

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