Bring back Whims!!!

"Evie0602;c-17264597" wrote:

"Felicity;c-17264587" wrote:

"LoveMcQueen5683;c-17264555" wrote:

"Felicity;c-17264493" wrote:

"LoveMcQueen5683;c-17264489" wrote:
I am curious to know when they stopped adding new whims? Around what pack did that happen?

I don't want to get my hopes up but that sounds a lot like we are getting something new soon.

Hopefully wants and fears like Sims 2.

I think they took them out about a year ago. Maybe November? You could probably check the patch notes. I don't think they're planning on replacing them, though I'd love to be proven wrong on that.

Edit: I could check the patch notes as well. It was last November.

And there hasn't been any new whims related to any pack since then?

No. In fact, I'm not sure when they stopped putting new whims in, but that's the point where they made them optional. I haven't played Sims 4 for a minute as I'm back on Sims 3, but I don't remember any Vampire whims, nor any Seasons whims either, though if there are those in the game, someone will correct me soon enough.

There are whims for vampires and seasons. My sims get the whim to buy a bee box from seasons all the time.

Ah, thank you. I knew someone would know :D I barely play Sims 4 at this point, but a totally revamped whim system could absolutely bring me back. I still don't think it will happen, though.

"Evie0602;c-17264597" wrote:

"Felicity;c-17264587" wrote:

"LoveMcQueen5683;c-17264555" wrote:

"Felicity;c-17264493" wrote:

"LoveMcQueen5683;c-17264489" wrote:
I am curious to know when they stopped adding new whims? Around what pack did that happen?

I don't want to get my hopes up but that sounds a lot like we are getting something new soon.

Hopefully wants and fears like Sims 2.

I think they took them out about a year ago. Maybe November? You could probably check the patch notes. I don't think they're planning on replacing them, though I'd love to be proven wrong on that.

Edit: I could check the patch notes as well. It was last November.

And there hasn't been any new whims related to any pack since then?

No. In fact, I'm not sure when they stopped putting new whims in, but that's the point where they made them optional. I haven't played Sims 4 for a minute as I'm back on Sims 3, but I don't remember any Vampire whims, nor any Seasons whims either, though if there are those in the game, someone will correct me soon enough.

There are whims for vampires and seasons. My sims get the whim to buy a bee box from seasons all the time.

That stupid bee box one is the only one I ever got from that, and I never saw a vampire one before I turned them off.

"Felicity;c-17262364" wrote:


Problem with the secret lots is there is nothing to do in them -- had they made them interesting places to go, they'd be used more. Same with whims. If they were relevant and interesting, they'd be used. Sims 2 had incredible depth, with wants, fears, etc. Sims 3 had a lot of depth as well, with whims being based on personality and current interests. Sim on a reading jag? They'll get wishes to read more. They stop reading for awhile and move onto painting? They'll roll fewer book-related wishes and more painting-related ones. Sims 4? They are just not interesting at all, and are quite repetitive.

Exactly. In particular, the proper use of a 'secret lot' would have been something like a dive lot or a mermaid grotto. The previous lots were places to do what? Fish? Collect rocks and frogs? No wonder no one visited them.

"Felicity;c-17262364" wrote:
Problem with the secret lots is there is nothing to do in them -- had they made them interesting places to go, they'd be used more.

"Cynna;c-17266046" wrote:
Exactly. In particular, the proper use of a 'secret lot' would have been something like a dive lot or a mermaid grotto. The previous lots were places to do what? Fish? Collect rocks and frogs? No wonder no one visited them.

Both of these are right on the nose. The secret areas are just "Wow look at this beautiful place!" and then you find out there is pretty much nothing to do there and then you leave cause your needs are low.

Honestly if they made it so you had the ability to build down there (which I don't get why you can't do that with the Grotto cause there is literally a building area where the toilet is) people might use them more as a sort of hidden bar/nightclub or even a livable area secluded from everyone else. I mean it includes 24/7 protection from the sun and living inside of a cave would be amazing for vampires. Not to mention the mystical nature of the Glade for magical sims.

I literally looked up why to go to either of those areas and it's for five fish;
Tilapia (Glade), Wolf Eel (Grotto), Anglerfish (both), Batfish (Grotto), Rainbowfish (Grotto)

@Scobre
Short list. Children though elders need more. Children should be able to play with mirror. Teens should be shorter. Maybe sometimes they play with children toys. Moodlet missing childhood. Young Adult/Adult a few new activities. Elders canes. Missing Youth sad moodlet. Free update update the three wishes. If they add optional wants and fears. Maybe even make it where you can play the game in Sims 2 way if a simmer plays by zodiac.
I think with that if they put in my idea on Ironseagull normal things video the game would have better replay value. Add little drama this game would feel more complete. The sims are to happy in my opinion.

"james64468;c-17266525" wrote:
@Scobre
Short list. Children though elders need more. Children should be able to play with mirror. Teens should be shorter. Maybe sometimes they play with children toys. Moodlet missing childhood. Young Adult/Adult a few new activities. Elders canes. Missing Youth sad moodlet. Free update update the three wishes. If they add optional wants and fears. Maybe even make it where you can play the game in Sims 2 way if a simmer plays by zodiac.
I think with that if they put in my idea on Ironseagull normal things video the game would have better replay value. Add little drama this game would feel more complete. The sims are to happy in my opinion.

True and love your ideas too. Yeah it is like life isn't life without a bit of drama to it. No ones life is perfect and it is sad to see this not reflected in the Sims in more ways. I agree about Sims being too happy. The room/environment moodlets tend to override any emotion system the game has in the game. It is like playing a MMO game that just has good buffs, but no debuffs. Makes me miss the way Sims 2 had personality points instead because at least then my Sims felt different from each other.

They're seriously not even adding new whims with DLC anymore? That's the laziest thing I've ever heard of. It's like they've completely abandoned anything that isn't immediately profitable, and just want to crank out the barest of bare bones of a game.

I would be fine if this were temporary so they can revamp the system, though. That had better be it.

Strangerville was the first pack that did not add any new whims. But even before, most of the new whims added were whims to buy the new items. I personally never liked buy whims much as I tend to buy the stuff I want to use on a lot and don't want to cramp more stuff in just because EA is obsessed with buy whims.

Whims is not the first thing they abandoned. The away actions were abandoned within a few months after the release. I never understood why. It's not that there are a ton of new skills coming with each pack so they could have very well added the new skills as away actions. Initially, they said they'd expand on the away actions to make up for the non-open world. Apparantly, they quickly gave up on it.

What's wrong with whims?

My sims still get those little thought bubbles on what they want to do, on the left hand side?

The ones you can lock, right?

Or are you talking about something else?

I remember they were missing after an update, but I found where to turn them back on in the options, I think.

"ListentoToppDogg;c-17249042" wrote:
I've honestly started getting worried about them fixing the whims. The fact that they haven't added any new ones since the option to disable them has me concerned. :/

Either they haven't added anymore because they're revamping the entire system and they didn't see a point to adding new ones because the programming is set to change soon (which I really hope is the case)

or

They've decided to just drop them and don't plan to do anything to fix them which is why they decided to just hide them for all new games (which I'd absolutely be disappointed by)

I really hope they're working on a way to overhaul the system so that they make sense and are enjoyable and that they won't just abandon them completely.

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