Can we please have a sexual preference option?

"Oldeseadogge;c-18085127" wrote:

"Cinebar;c-18083450" wrote:
It must be impossible because some of us have been asking for sexual preference settings in CAS for this game and before the end of TS3 since as long as I can remember. :/

If that is the case it must be relatively recent as TS2 played sims are neutral until the player makes the selection. At least some of the townies are pre-set.

TS4 doesn't have the hidden option in code to stick to the gender we first pick for our Sims' attraction other like we do in TS2. As you know TS4 Sims will accept love from any other Sim. Many say it's because they are coded to be Bi. I don't know about the code in TS4 but modders would, but since there was a huge thread on TS3 about wanting sexual preference and that has been over ten years ago, it must be impossible to do in CAS or Maxis would have eventually done it, I think. Surely they wouldn't ignore such a longstanding request for over ten years to put this option in CAS. lol

"crocobaura;c-18085135" wrote:
I think the sexual non-discrimination is deliberate. It promotes the free love, LGBTQ and transsexual communities they have been otherwise actively promoting. I am more bothered by the fact that my sims get an automatic pink bar with whichever sim decides to do a random declaration of love. Some of those sims my sims hardly knew, being smooched when they hardly knew them is considered assault nowadays, not love.

The T in LGBTQ already means trans, so it doesn't need duplicate mention. And "Free Love" isn't specific to LGBTQ people. Beatniks and shortly after, Hippies, were the first to make a Revolution out of promoting "free love" and the vast majority of them were straight, white, and privileged. The point being, whether and to what degree monogamy matters, is separate from orientation or gender identity.

I too am annoyed by how meaningless relationships and woohoo are in sims4 due to them not caring, and hooking up with anyone and everyone, but that's not because of LGBTQ inclusion or representation, and one doesn't imply the other. :)

"Oldeseadogge;c-18085127" wrote:

"Cinebar;c-18083450" wrote:
It must be impossible because some of us have been asking for sexual preference settings in CAS for this game and before the end of TS3 since as long as I can remember. :/

If that is the case it must be relatively recent as TS2 played sims are neutral until the player makes the selection. At least some of the townies are pre-set.

In TS2, once you did the "Scope Room" interaction or the "Check Sim Out" interaction, every other Sim on the lot would start showing their preference. You remembered correctly. I just finished playing TS2 and just did this.

"ignominiusrex;c-18086304" wrote:

"crocobaura;c-18085135" wrote:
I think the sexual non-discrimination is deliberate. It promotes the free love, LGBTQ and transsexual communities they have been otherwise actively promoting. I am more bothered by the fact that my sims get an automatic pink bar with whichever sim decides to do a random declaration of love. Some of those sims my sims hardly knew, being smooched when they hardly knew them is considered assault nowadays, not love.

The T in LGBTQ already means trans, so it doesn't need duplicate mention. And "Free Love" isn't specific to LGBTQ people. Beatniks and shortly after, Hippies, were the first to make a Revolution out of promoting "free love" and the vast majority of them were straight, white, and privileged. The point being, whether and to what degree monogamy matters, is separate from orientation or gender identity.

I too am annoyed by how meaningless relationships and woohoo are in sims4 due to them not caring, and hooking up with anyone and everyone, but that's not because of LGBTQ inclusion or representation, and one doesn't imply the other. :)

I wasn't referring to monogamy as being desirable, nor did I say that free love is specific to LGBTQ community, but rather sim's predilection for hooking up with literally anyone. They basically have no taboos, and anything goes regardless of sex or marital status. As far as sexual orientation goes, everyone's bisexual by default, the only reason some don't get engaged in bisexual relationships is because they don't get the opportunity. Also, happily married sims will get pink bars with whoever pays them a compliment, monogamy is again not a choice but a lack of opportunity. So, maybe it's a lazy way to code relationships in game and not a desire to include LGBTQ representation but the fact remains that sims do not discriminate and have an anything goes approach to relationships.

"crocobaura;c-18085135" wrote:
I think the sexual non-discrimination is deliberate. It promotes the free love, LGBTQ and transsexual communities they have been otherwise actively promoting. I am more bothered by the fact that my sims get an automatic pink bar with whichever sim decides to do a random declaration of love. Some of those sims my sims hardly knew, being smooched when they hardly knew them is considered assault nowadays, not love.

It sounded like you were equating indiscriminate woohoo with being LGBTQ because you lumped them together as bolded above, and then proposed "So, maybe it's a lazy way to code relationships in game and not a desire to include LGBTQ representation but the fact remains that sims do not discriminate and have an anything goes approach to relationships."

How could it be or not be, a desire to include LGBTQ representation, unless you thought LGBTQ representation was connected with indiscriminate woohoo? Anyway, you seemed to be saying that wasn't your intention, and I am not moralizing for or against polyamory or monogamy myself, just pointing out that polyamory has nothing to do with whether someone is straight, so representing LGBTQ people isn't the same thing as promoting or representing polyamory.

The game does ignore orientation and relationship status and treats all Sims like interchangeable parts, which is annoying to most everyone because if your Sim is in a relationship, other sims don't seem to recognize or respect that.

It does need some kind of solution, but that's not about LGBTQ representation, more like lack of memory, consequences, or any way to have a Sim act like their actual supposed description, whether it's traits that don't matter, or orientation that doesn't matter.

Gay, straight, or Pan, there's hardly any point in Sims getting wed in the first place because they act just as unattached as they did when single, regardless. It's a larger problem, that nothing literally matters with Sims4 sims and it makes them boring or impossible to get immersion with.

"ignominiusrex;c-18086560" wrote:

"crocobaura;c-18085135" wrote:
I think the sexual non-discrimination is deliberate. It promotes the free love, LGBTQ and transsexual communities they have been otherwise actively promoting. I am more bothered by the fact that my sims get an automatic pink bar with whichever sim decides to do a random declaration of love. Some of those sims my sims hardly knew, being smooched when they hardly knew them is considered assault nowadays, not love.

It sounded like you were equating indiscriminate woohoo with being LGBTQ because you lumped them together as bolded above, and then proposed "So, maybe it's a lazy way to code relationships in game and not a desire to include LGBTQ representation but the fact remains that sims do not discriminate and have an anything goes approach to relationships."

How could it be or not be, a desire to include LGBTQ representation, unless you thought LGBTQ representation was connected with indiscriminate woohoo? Anyway, you seemed to be saying that wasn't your intention, and I am not moralizing for or against polyamory or monogamy myself, just pointing out that polyamory has nothing to do with whether someone is straight, so representing LGBTQ people isn't the same thing as promoting or representing polyamory.

The game does ignore orientation and relationship status and treats all Sims like interchangeable parts, which is annoying to most everyone because if your Sim is in a relationship, other sims don't seem to recognize or respect that.

It does need some kind of solution, but that's not about LGBTQ representation, more like lack of memory, consequences, or any way to have a Sim act like their actual supposed description, whether it's traits that don't matter, or orientation that doesn't matter.

Gay, straight, or Pan, there's hardly any point in Sims getting wed in the first place because they act just as unattached as they did when single, regardless. It's a larger problem, that nothing literally matters with Sims4 sims and it makes them boring or impossible to get immersion with.

Well, the indiscriminate woohoo does allow for all the range of sexual orientations including LGBTQ. If sims were discriminate then some would not have been possible. A straight sim would not accept woohoo advances from a same sex sim same as a gay sim would not accept woohoo advances from an opposite sex sim. As it currently is, there are no real straight or gay sims, in fact all are by default bisexuals. I am not equating the indiscriminate woohoo with being LGBTQ, merely stating a fact of how the game is coded, and it affects all sims in the same way.

Love is too free right now and there are no really loyal sims. I really hope relationships and love overall gets an overhaul.

I just want a loyalty trait in the reward store. So that no matter how hard someone flirts with your sim they will always stay loyal to their partner. Sims will get flirty with anyone and that always annoyed me.

"shellbeme;c-18086623" wrote:
Love is too free right now and there are no really loyal sims. I really hope relationships and love overall gets an overhaul.

"Babykittyjade;c-18086664" wrote:
I just want a loyalty trait in the reward store. So that no matter how hard someone flirts with your sim they will always stay loyal to their partner. Sims will get flirty with anyone and that always annoyed me.

If you don't mind using mods there is one from chingyu available for free on Patreon that has CAS and Rewards Store traits for loyalty and committed, among other things. And they work. Your sims won't flirt or do any romantic interactions with anyone but their partner.

Chingyu Faithfulness Mod

I would love to have gender preference in my game, tried to do a bachelor, bacherlorette in my game and all the contestants went after one another. Had to make them all related. so dumb. I gave up.