Can we please have toggles for Occults & other systems in game?

I completely agree with this, and I would go further and say let us toggle it on and off per save. Maybe I want to play with occults in one save, but in another I want to keep it entirely realistic and go from one to the other depending on my mood?

In general, I'm just for anything that puts the power in my hands instead of developers. I want to play my game my way, someone else has completely other preferences. Let us decide how we want the game to be as far as possible without crashing the game.

I don’t know why, but for some reason Maxis prefers to use in game triggers instead of toggles with occults in Sims 4. Ages ago, one of the developers apparently said that toggles contributed to the instability of TS3. If that’s true, I can understand the hesitation, but they definitely used toggles with Neighborhood Stories and a few other things. If they could figure out a way to do it without introducing bugs, I’d be all for it. It would certainly cut down on some of the agitation when a new occult is added, and allow more player control of the type of occult, and maybe even intensity of involvement in any game. Then, maybe those who like them can have them integrated more fully into their games, again.

Until then, if we want the packs for other reasons, we have to avoid in game triggers.

Yup I'm tired of occults getting nerfed because people buy the packs for CAS & Build/Buy ten whine about occults in their game. Just let the whiners turn them off in the settings!

Yes, please let us have toggles for as many things as toggles make sense for. Occult life states is among the most excellent candidates for such options, though I'd prefer it to be per individual occult type and on a save-by-save basis rather than a completely one-click global thing. I enjoy occult game play in general, but I don't enjoy some of the occult life states (aliens very literally make my head/ears hurt with their voices). Also, some of my saves are intended to feature only one or two certain occults (or none), and I'd like to be able to set that up properly. It would be awesome to be able to customize my saves for the way I prefer to play them.

I think this is just one of those things people have to deal with if they want the B/B stuff. The gurus already confirmed they can't do many toggles for the sake of stability. They do what they can. And people never use the in game toggles.
Occults in ts4 is not very invasive and do a good job of staying hidden. You'll never even catch a spell caster doing magic.

I'd love it if they could do it so the stuff I enjoy could stop getting nerfed. But ts4 runs smoothly and I wouldn't want to sacrifice stability for it if it were to cause problems.

They should bring it back. Maybe their plan is to use lot traits to enable werewolves in other worlds.

If werewolves will show up and destroy people's home lots, then we will probably see a nerf like we saw with vampires.

As much as I enjoy the Sims 4 occults, I fully agree with this. I want to play *my* way, including in parts of the game that are related to occults. I'd like the option of playing the Scientist career without generating Aliens. I'd like to not need a mod to live in Strangerville without the story (which I really enjoyed but want to replay when I feel like it).

If they cant make a toggle, then why not take advantage of lot traits/ challenges? We already have some vampire related lot traits and the haunted house lot, so why stop there? Make a lot challenge for increased vampire/werewolf attacks? A lot trait that spawns mostly spellcasters and magical shenanigans? Or maybe a lot trait that doesnt allow for any occult to show up? It may not fully do away with occults in the game, if someone doesnt want them, but at least it gives that player a bit more control over who they want showing up at their front door and doesnt disregard the player that does want occults in the game.

I can't agree to toggles for occults. There aren't that many compared to TS3. I prefer player triggered gameplay. Don't want vamps, don't study vampire lore. Don't open the door. Don't visit one in Forgotten Hollow. Don't want aliens don't make one in CAS. Don't do a lot of things at the science lab that triggers the player finding out just who was an alien which in turn triggered them in the world. Don't marry one, don't date one.

To be bluntly honest there are really only two occults in TS4 that are basically flushed out and they are the vamps and the aliens. There are all sorts of Don'ts to keep them out of the game without any toggles. Whatever was added like mermaids and plantsims or zombies was a joke.

People are only complaining about vampires and aliens. When it is their gameplay that triggers 99% of it. Zombies are in one world...there is a mod to stop them from being zombies isn't there?

Who here is complaining about mermaids, ghosts and or plantsims? I haven't seen any complaints in the past few years about those overtaking any lot and or world other than the specific nights at a bar that generates too many ghosts in the game filling the jobs.

So technically this thread is about vampires and aliens when players trigger this themselves. Why have toggles when all you have to do is avoid particular triggers. TS1 and TS2 remain in the top tier of great gameplay because of triggers...not toggles.

"Cinebar;c-18125061" wrote:
I can't agree to toggles for occults. There aren't that many compared to TS3. I prefer player triggered gameplay. Don't want vamps, don't study vampire lore. Don't open the door. Don't visit one in Forgotten Hollow. Don't want aliens don't make one in CAS. Don't do a lot of things at the science lab that triggers the player finding out just who was an alien which in turn triggered them in the world. Don't marry one, don't date one.

To be bluntly honest there are really only two occults in TS4 that are basically flushed out and they are the vamps and the aliens. There are all sorts of Don'ts to keep them out of the game without any toggles. Whatever was added like mermaids and plantsims or zombies was a joke.

People are only complaining about vampires and aliens. When it is their gameplay that triggers 99% of it. Zombies are in one world...there is a mod to stop them from being zombies isn't there?

Who here is complaining about mermaids, ghosts and or plantsims? I haven't seen any complaints in the past few years about those overtaking any lot and or world other than the specific nights at a bar that generates too many ghosts in the game filling the jobs.

So technically this thread is about vampires and aliens when players trigger this themselves. Why have toggles when all you have to do is avoid particular triggers. TS1 and TS2 remain in the top tier of great gameplay because of triggers...not toggles.

I agree that I prefer triggers and in game gameplay. It's more engaging and totally optional. But people got my precious celebrities nerfed because they didn't want to go out disguise or not go as high as a 5 star celebrity ??? the way sims use to act over my famous sim is something I still miss. It felt like ACTUALLY being famous and that's exactly how people act over famous celebrities in real life. If anything it was more realistic.
And every time my celebrity goes out barely noticed I'm reminded of what was nerfed ???
I wasn't on the forum at the time and thought my game was broken. I even deleted all of my sims fame and started over (multiple times) to make it work again. Later when I joined Twitter and came here I found out it was nerfed because people didn't want to either use the triggers or opt out of fame ?

We don't have have zombies but possessed sims in strangerville that never leave that world. They can be cured or totally deleted. Every occult can actually be totally deleted. There are just so many work arounds that doesn't include toggles.
Only vampires I see in my game are the ones I personally put there, and even then they don't use any powers except speed run or fly like a bat (which is a bug actually. They keep defaulting to fly like a bat)
You will NEVER catch a spell caster doing magic unless you go to the magic realm. And you can delete them as well.