Can we talk about the sims 4 rebrand vidio ?

"Scobre;c-17302357" wrote:

"JoAnne65;c-17298792" wrote:

It's actually an eye opener for me how in the second video on page 1 here, a religious girl explains how playing a deviant and mean God makes her more aware of the positive values of her religion.

Not going to lie, that is one of the reasons I play that way too. Glad you enjoyed the videos. I think the videos have shown how out of touch Gurus are with the Sims community now compared to then. Everything is based on stats and not interacting with the community as little as possible and having a computer do it for them which I find extremely sad especially for a game that is supposed to be a life simulation. It is like a life simulation of their rich lifestyle or ours? So far feels like their life simulation mostly. It is like how are you going to appeal to your customer if you don't even know them.

Although the wannabe hip lingo of 10 years ago was annoying with the high pitch squeak parts, this is probably the first Sims 4 promo video in a long time that I could relate to. My university experience was a lot like this with the failure aspects and raising my nephew while in school.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sxd63J3yJ8g

Yah, this thing actually feels like an advertisement for a life simulation.

"Cinebar;c-17301096" wrote:
I think this type of brand isn't a healthy thing to promote. I have my own reasons for saying that, it's not healthy for people to bury their heads in the sand and stay within a virtual world. This doesn't help coping skills, nor does it help people socialize nor does it help feel connected to a real human being in the room. We all had problems, have problems or dealt something within our lives. EA boasting their games help you avoid, hide behind, live inside their games isn't a good thing, in my opinion. From my own life I know very well how much I have lost and the time I have lost I will never get back because I chose to avoid reality and or not to deal with it and just stayed in a virtual world. This is not a healthy nor productive thing to do. The brand of The Sims before was, it was a hobby. And yes, it was. Now, it's a place to go hide and feel safe. Sad.

I just want to add this, hobby EA, hobby. It should never be boasted it's a separate reality like some parallel world people can use to avoid their own lives. Nor should it be encouraged to go in there and never come out. Nor to sell products to people that with the way they are released and or handled it makes them live inside the games and not be able to carry on until they get the next new shiny. This sort of manipulation is not something I would want to be known for if I were EA.

Explaning: If people are miserable for whatever reason then waiting on a company as if they were god, to fill that need with live service, is not something EA should be doing. But they seem( with this ad )to be very happy to pretend they are and taking all the credit for it. But none of this actually helped a person deal with something for real, but only play out a situation in revenge or whatever, and that's not healthy, either. Nor is it healthy to live in a happy, happy pretend world. It's only going to make the real one seem very unable to bear. The real world is outside your door. Waiting to be discovered.

I completely agree with this. Even though I use video games as an escape from my illness there is a fine line between using it for fun and burying your head so you can’t see the world. Weirdly enough when I’m really low mentally I can’t play the sims. It’s depressing to me to see my sims do normal things I can’t or struggle with. I can some times play other video games but The Sims franchise is a big no no. I read this article and the writer also acknowledges using the game as a crutch was not good for state of mind:
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/8x8a53/i-couldnt-get-pregnant-so-i-played-the-sims-4

"MidnightAura;c-17302639" wrote:

"Cinebar;c-17301096" wrote:
I think this type of brand isn't a healthy thing to promote. I have my own reasons for saying that, it's not healthy for people to bury their heads in the sand and stay within a virtual world. This doesn't help coping skills, nor does it help people socialize nor does it help feel connected to a real human being in the room. We all had problems, have problems or dealt something within our lives. EA boasting their games help you avoid, hide behind, live inside their games isn't a good thing, in my opinion. From my own life I know very well how much I have lost and the time I have lost I will never get back because I chose to avoid reality and or not to deal with it and just stayed in a virtual world. This is not a healthy nor productive thing to do. The brand of The Sims before was, it was a hobby. And yes, it was. Now, it's a place to go hide and feel safe. Sad.

I just want to add this, hobby EA, hobby. It should never be boasted it's a separate reality like some parallel world people can use to avoid their own lives. Nor should it be encouraged to go in there and never come out. Nor to sell products to people that with the way they are released and or handled it makes them live inside the games and not be able to carry on until they get the next new shiny. This sort of manipulation is not something I would want to be known for if I were EA.

Explaning: If people are miserable for whatever reason then waiting on a company as if they were god, to fill that need with live service, is not something EA should be doing. But they seem( with this ad )to be very happy to pretend they are and taking all the credit for it. But none of this actually helped a person deal with something for real, but only play out a situation in revenge or whatever, and that's not healthy, either. Nor is it healthy to live in a happy, happy pretend world. It's only going to make the real one seem very unable to bear. The real world is outside your door. Waiting to be discovered.

I completely agree with this. Even though I use video games as an escape from my illness there is a fine line between using it for fun and burying your head so you can’t see the world. Weirdly enough when I’m really low mentally I can’t play the sims. It’s depressing to me to see my sims do normal things I can’t or struggle with. I can some times play other video games but The Sims franchise is a big no no. I read this article and the writer also acknowledges using the game as a crutch was not good for state of mind:
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/8x8a53/i-couldnt-get-pregnant-so-i-played-the-sims-4

That story is not far from the truth for many and why I am disgusted by this ad. When I finally broke my addiction to The Sims games I was much happier and was rarely home anymore, but outside living. It didn't matter if I was in pain or the way I looked (different story) it was the fact I was outside again, and pain out there was just as much as the pain indoors while at a pc, but it was living again and with family and not hiding or sinking into oblivion. I'm actually glad I no longer have a need to load a game like I did with this series. Free from addiction is a good thing.

I've just come back to it after taking a month off. I think I got a bit too addicted. It's a good time to take a rest from the game round about October and come back to a new EP before Christmas so I'm looking forward to Discover University with Seasons.

"Scobre;c-17302357" wrote:

"JoAnne65;c-17298792" wrote:

It's actually an eye opener for me how in the second video on page 1 here, a religious girl explains how playing a deviant and mean God makes her more aware of the positive values of her religion.

Not going to lie, that is one of the reasons I play that way too. Glad you enjoyed the videos. I think the videos have shown how out of touch Gurus are with the Sims community now compared to then. Everything is based on stats and not interacting with the community as little as possible and having a computer do it for them which I find extremely sad especially for a game that is supposed to be a life simulation. It is like a life simulation of their rich lifestyle or ours? So far feels like their life simulation mostly. It is like how are you going to appeal to your customer if you don't even know them.

Although the wannabe hip lingo of 10 years ago was annoying with the high pitch squeak parts, this is probably the first Sims 4 promo video in a long time that I could relate to. My university experience was a lot like this with the failure aspects and raising my nephew while in school.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sxd63J3yJ8g

Storywise I like that video too. Not sure in what way it shows the game side of things, it doesn’t pull me in that way, but time will tell.

Anywho... Ever since GTW, doesn't anybody else notice there become instant decline spoof videos (or idk how to call them). I am trying to make of correlation that there doesn't to be passionate for devs (with none of who plays the current game), the whole Maxis table probably takes the game producing as a job to finish the job. Of course there are likely exception, but those people are probably one or two that likes playing it (though many got lay off or quit). After the era of TS3, the sims youtube channel seem to stopped producing content other than showcasing trailers for DLC. And oh course, the promotional ad being the only exception I know.

Point being through this incoherent ramble, tl;dr - ever since GTW, there hadn't been 'filter' videos like storylines, behind the scenes, etc. Ok I checked, come to winderburg could be like that filter video, but ehh it sort of marketing one too.

I'm not going to pick on the people in the video because that's not fair. I do think a lot of the things they are saying could be true.

Asking "why am I black?" isn't cringe to me. I think that's really sad actually and I truly hope that person gets help so that they learn to love them self.

However, for deep rooted issues like that and others mentioned - Sims isn't a long term answer. Sure it feels great to play Sims after a stressful week but never to try to use as a personal therapist.

"MidnightAura;c-17302639" wrote:

I completely agree with this. Even though I use video games as an escape from my illness there is a fine line between using it for fun and burying your head so you can’t see the world. Weirdly enough when I’m really low mentally I can’t play the sims. It’s depressing to me to see my sims do normal things I can’t or struggle with. I can some times play other video games but The Sims franchise is a big no no. I read this article and the writer also acknowledges using the game as a crutch was not good for state of mind:
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/8x8a53/i-couldnt-get-pregnant-so-i-played-the-sims-4

You hit the nail on what has bothered me about the Sims 4 too and why I find it the most depressing iteration of the series. It is like they tried to make the Sims 4 like MySims which was made for kids and free from anything that is deemed dangerous. I mean I know that a lot that worked on MySims also work on the Sims 4, but I don't want the main game to be like MySims. It's why Simmers are so angry at each other. They have all this anger that normally they can vent in the game, vent it on social media instead and it just isn't healthy for anyone. It is like the idea of the purge instead of it happening in the game, it is happening in the Sims community and if EA wants to kill another Maxis community by making it too "safe" and depressing their customers to do dangerous acts like what happened with EA Sports that's on them to encourage that competitive and aggressive behavior within the community rather than providing a way to purge in their games by making them entertaining instead. No one likes to be bored out of their mind with preschool games.

"Scobre;c-17303160" wrote:

"MidnightAura;c-17302639" wrote:

I completely agree with this. Even though I use video games as an escape from my illness there is a fine line between using it for fun and burying your head so you can’t see the world. Weirdly enough when I’m really low mentally I can’t play the sims. It’s depressing to me to see my sims do normal things I can’t or struggle with. I can some times play other video games but The Sims franchise is a big no no. I read this article and the writer also acknowledges using the game as a crutch was not good for state of mind:
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/8x8a53/i-couldnt-get-pregnant-so-i-played-the-sims-4

You hit the nail on what has bothered me about the Sims 4 too and why I find it the most depressing iteration of the series. It is like they tried to make the Sims 4 like MySims which was made for kids and free from anything that is deemed dangerous. I mean I know that a lot that worked on MySims also work on the Sims 4, but I don't want the main game to be like MySims. It's why Simmers are so angry at each other. They have all this anger that normally they can vent in the game, vent it on social media instead and it just isn't healthy for anyone. It is like the idea of the purge instead of it happening in the game, it is happening in the Sims community and if EA wants to kill another Maxis community by making it too "safe" and depressing their customers to do dangerous acts like what happened with EA Sports that's on them to encourage that competitive and aggressive behavior within the community rather than providing a way to purge in their games by making them entertaining instead. No one likes to be bored out of their mind with preschool games.

TS4 is the first game where i get judged for letting bad things happen to Sims. I never was judged for that before. I'm a deviant player in many ways, but softened up over the years. I think seeing a Sim starve in The Sims would shock and horrify many new players today. It's not pretty with them begging for food, and looking right into camera begging the player. However, this is the first forum where I have seen players have to defend why they would allow some Sim to suffer. It used to be a common joke we slapped a Sim around because they were so darn annoying. Now, it's like omg, you are such a horrible person. Lyndsay said at the release of TS4 they didn't want players to feel bad for not taking care of their Sims etc., however, they have done the very opposite and removed anything that could help a player tell that story or type gameplay. It's' so childish, I never admit I have played it.

"Cinebar;c-17308172" wrote:

"Scobre;c-17303160" wrote:

"MidnightAura;c-17302639" wrote:

I completely agree with this. Even though I use video games as an escape from my illness there is a fine line between using it for fun and burying your head so you can’t see the world. Weirdly enough when I’m really low mentally I can’t play the sims. It’s depressing to me to see my sims do normal things I can’t or struggle with. I can some times play other video games but The Sims franchise is a big no no. I read this article and the writer also acknowledges using the game as a crutch was not good for state of mind:
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/8x8a53/i-couldnt-get-pregnant-so-i-played-the-sims-4

You hit the nail on what has bothered me about the Sims 4 too and why I find it the most depressing iteration of the series. It is like they tried to make the Sims 4 like MySims which was made for kids and free from anything that is deemed dangerous. I mean I know that a lot that worked on MySims also work on the Sims 4, but I don't want the main game to be like MySims. It's why Simmers are so angry at each other. They have all this anger that normally they can vent in the game, vent it on social media instead and it just isn't healthy for anyone. It is like the idea of the purge instead of it happening in the game, it is happening in the Sims community and if EA wants to kill another Maxis community by making it too "safe" and depressing their customers to do dangerous acts like what happened with EA Sports that's on them to encourage that competitive and aggressive behavior within the community rather than providing a way to purge in their games by making them entertaining instead. No one likes to be bored out of their mind with preschool games.

TS4 is the first game where i get judged for letting bad things happen to Sims. I never was judged for that before. I'm a deviant player in many ways, but softened up over the years. I think seeing a Sim starve in The Sims would shock and horrify many new players today. It's not pretty with them begging for food, and looking right into camera begging the player. However, this is the first forum where I have seen players have to defend why they would allow some Sim to suffer. It used to be a common joke we slapped a Sim around because they were so darn annoying. Now, it's like omg, you are such a horrible person. Lyndsay said at the release of TS4 they didn't want players to feel bad for not taking care of their Sims etc., however, they have done the very opposite and removed anything that could help a player tell that story or type gameplay. It's' so childish, I never admit I have played it.

I so agree with this. Our playstyles are similar. I remember back in the sims 1 days, the Prima Guide had a “tidbit from the developers” sections and those pieces of advice were: drown your unwanted sims in a pool by removing the ladder, have your sim marry a rich sim and repeat the above so they marry for money and leave the newbies house on fast forward after you get them jobs as in theory with all the essentials they would go to work and you could make money quickly.

Can you imagine the devs inferring that now? Hell a dog house is considered cruel, pregnant sims can’t die and trying to bump off an unwanted sim means fighting the game. I remember my friend on here getting criticised for talking about drowning a sim. It’s just pixels, people!

I don’t admit to playing the sims 4 either. My Husband’s work colleagues think it’s cool that I game as many of their wives/partners don’t; but he’ll will freeze over before I admit to them I play the sims 4?