Clipping vs Routing Issues

I am with you @star_girl, i don't mind clipping, most of it is just small, the big bits like walking through a counter is a little weird.. but not a biggy

Please be a bug. Please be a bug. Please be a bug.

We had clipping in TS3 too, at least I did, although it was more a glitch related thing than intended. Occasionally my sim would be standing "inside" the sink before doing dishes or washing hands. And in my Avatar pic the sim is wrongly positioned for the task she performs. This stuff never really bothered me much. So a little clipping to improve routing is accepted as long as the area is busy and the alternative was to get stuck :)

"netguysteve;12478492" wrote:

"weebl_101;12478388" wrote:
It seems that people will never be happy, everyone keeps on talking about features that have been removed from the game. The Sims 4 is a completely new game from The Sims series. You need to look at it as, features have not made it into the base game, and not features have been removed.



Like all games you need to give it a chance and see if you like it then, not ridicule and bash it, from what other people have said, and not even see what the game has to offer for yourself.

The issue most people have is one of perspective. They have chosen to market The Sims 4 as a sequel, not a total reboot (as they did last year with SimCity). Because of this, many people have some reasonable expectation that core features and long time staples which have previously been included in the base game would continue to be. I'm not talking about expansion pack content. People who honestly expect to be handed ep content right out of the box are fooling themselves. The perception is that there will not be as much to do with The Sims 4 base game as there was with The Sims 3 base game (excluding ANY expansions). This is partly the fault of the marketing that has been done though. They keep showing us the same things over and over and over again. The perception is that that's all there is. They can say, "There are more objects in this game than any other base game" all they want. They haven't shown them to us. Keep in mind too, they may actually be counting each "style" of the same item as a separate object when they make that statement. It is, after all, a marketing statement which definitely have a tendency to be worded very carefully and very intentionally.

If they had marketed this game as what it appears, for all intents and purposes, to be (a reboot), then expectations for returning features would be lower. Rightfully so, I might add. It's silly to expect people to look at something which is intentionally be marketed as a "sequel" through the same lense as a "reboot" though.

(Edit: Fixed Typo. That's what I get for sitting up all night... no... NOT on the forums)

I absolutely agree with your point about marketing. I don't remember too much about TS3 marketing except that I saw a commercial for it on TV and decided I had to have it right then. I don't watch too much TV now, but I haven't heard anything about commercials for this game.

That being said, I'll have to contest your point about the object styles being counted in that 1000 number. There's some pictures from Creator's Camp that show the thumbnail for 800 objects (I for the life of me can't find the link) and there were things not included in those pictures like showers (which we've seen in gameplay footage).

As for clipping, I agree that it's irritating. I'd rather not experience it all, but I'm willing to put up with a little if it means I won't have sims canceling important actions because there's a magical gnome in the way. I have 99 routing problems and magical gnomes are 98 of them. :p

Because a previous game had clipping doesn't mean the brand new, better technological, with improved AI and Routing, and with this all new amazing engine should. If they removed barriers for Sims then you can expect more clipping all over the place. You guys are saying you don't care, I don't know why you think this would be acceptable. They promised a better AI, not just solve it by allowing Sims walk through objects, or other Sims. Really? that's o.k. with you guys? really? Don't even come back and say MMORPGs have clipping because this is a Life Simulation Game, people don't walk through counters, or walls, or other people. If that's their answer and their solution to buggy TS3 that doesn't say a lot to me about their ability to build a technologically better game.

If the choice is "standing in a puddle of my own pee because I can't walk through my husband who is burning dinner because I am blocking the stove" and a bit of clipping... I take the clipping any time.

Clipping. By far. Buuuuut. They could've done a better job with the collision engine so that the entire sim is a game object. I know that this would create other problems, but they can be fixed. I don't know how easy it is to fix this one because my video game making skills are rusty but I remember some.

"jackjack_k;12413643" wrote:

"averee90;12413569" wrote:

"Cinebar;12413442" wrote:
For me no, it's totally unacceptable and here is why, my Sims in TS2 don't go through counters or walk through each other when trying to pass, and if this is somebody's idea of better routing then I have news, No, TS2 Sims don't have that many routing failures unless I block them with objects on purpose. So, No, it's lame.

It's also lazy and shoddy, and to think they want at least $60 for this... it's just wrong on so many levels. It really is.

Can you wait to judge the final version please? The Sims 3 had HUNDREDS of bugs when it came out and most people couldn't even the play the game until the second patch came out.

And yet people conveniently forget that when bashing the Sims 4.

One clipping issue is better than hundreds of bugs that make the game unplayable out of the box.

No, people didn't forget that only those who don't mind crappy games. I complained the last five years.

"Beardedgeek;12478667" wrote:
If the choice is "standing in a puddle of my own pee because I can't walk through my husband who is burning dinner because I am blocking the stove" and a bit of clipping... I take the clipping any time.

You have to walk around in real life, this is a game about life, not a magical mystery tour.

People are primarily pointing out the clipping in Sims 4 because Sims 4 is the new game coming out in a week's time. I'm sure people complained about the clipping in Sims 3 in its hey day. Either way, I guess some hoped that with a new system that certain issues from past games would be fixed. If possible anyway. So it's not so much a Sims 4 vs. Other Sims kind of topic, but a 'Damn, they haven't fixed the clipping issue yet' topic!