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OEII1001
6 years agoSeasoned Ace
"fullspiral;c-17411213" wrote:"OEII1001;c-17411210" wrote:"fullspiral;c-17411208" wrote:"OEII1001;c-17411196" wrote:"Hoverael;c-17411191" wrote:"OEII1001;c-17411189" wrote:"Hoverael;c-17411185" wrote:"OEII1001;c-17411178" wrote:
I think that people are conflating the fact that the world of 2000 is different than that of 2014 or 2020 with the game not having features they would prefer. Is it your stance that The Sims 4 is inferior because of the gender patch, a reflection of the decline of print media, or an increase of dark skin tones; or is it your stance that The Sims 4 is inferior because it doesn't have the gameplay features you seek? I think the pearl clutching over "PC" is misplaced.
ts4 is inferior? who said that?
ts4 is inferior because of a gender patch? who said that as well?
Ts4 is based on less game play features? who said that as well?
you are making a lot of your own "conflating" points of view, if nothing else you are presuming to know for us what our points of view are? i don't need you to tell me what to think or what to believe thank you.
So why are we talking about "political correctness"? Why is it a problem that there are gender options and more dark skin tones? How is this a problem? Again, I think you're conflating it with a perceived decline of quality, which even by the standards of the anti-Sims 4 crowd is about gameplay and not the gender patch.
thats your point of view as you see it, not mine. conflated indeed.
Then perhaps you would care to clarify your remarks. I look forward to reading them."fullspiral;c-17411192" wrote:"OEII1001;c-17411186" wrote:"DevilNDisguise;c-17411184" wrote:
I can agree with this. Trends happen, last for a little while, and then disappear. How is that fun? They're in the game forever at that point, when the trend has become "old news".
I definitely don't prefer trendiness in The Sims.
Do you react with disgust when seeing the MP3 player in The Sims 2? I don't. The Sims 2 is a product of its time, as all games are.
Here's the difference. In Sims 2, it was the choice of the player as to whether to purchase that. Just like it was the choice of the player if they wanted their sims to have cell phones. You bought them at the kiosk and YOU got to decide which sims you wanted to use them.
Sure, you can opt for a sim to use sm in sims 4, but EVERY pack, and almost everything revolves around that in this iteration. You cannot escape it and play any other way. Your sim is born with a cell phone. And they auto use it for selfies, games, etc. The player is left with hitting the "cancel, cancel, cancel" action.
Isn't that more of a reflection of the times rather than an indictment of gameplay? The advent of the SmartPhone has fundamentally changed the way that we communicate, or even handle day-to-day life, and not just for kids. We're Vegas natives, so when we went to Philadelphia for medical treatment for my wife we were all lost and turned around. So what did I do? I pulled out my phone, went to Google and used their GPS to locate not only where I was, but what direction I was facing. Disaster averted.
I don't think that acknowledging the reality that this sort of technology has become integral to life in 2014 or 2020 is a gameplay issue. Maybe that's where we disagree. Maybe I am wrong. I always am.
Here's where we differ. Humans are quite capable of maneuvering through life without the tech of today. Back in the day, we had MAPS. And the ability to ask directions. Reliance on tech isn't necessarily a good thing. It makes people stupid and unable to problem-solve and reliant.
Perhaps the game should reflect some of the pitfalls of tech reliance that is occurring in the real world.
Or maybe just include a trait that makes sims more prone to shake their fists at those crazy kids and their rock-n-roll.
*shake fist* Yeah, that will add a ton of gameplay won't it? Just another pie menu animation that does nothing, like the rest of it.
Oh come on, that was funny and you know it. We're not even talking about gameplay, we're besmirching people who use their phones when lost rather than head to the gas station and peruse the AAA map section.
EDIT: I just think that this particular example is a strange hill to die on. We sure did use maps, and we used them because we didn't have access to the Global Positioning System. If we had it, we would have used it due to the fact that it is objectively superior in every way.
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