7 years ago

Do We Really Need Another Three Years? TS4 at Four Years Old

This thread is not exactly a comparison of TS4 to the other games but where TS4 players say it's only been four years, TS2 had ended by this point and one last SP released in Nov. TS3 news was everywhere since it was supposed to, IIRC, be released in Feb. the following year. (But delayed).

By this time TS2 had several main worlds, unlimited subhoods, vacant templates(not the same as an empty template without townies) to build your own custom hoods, and unlimited townie populations. (As long as your pc could handle it). And Aliens, Abductions and Male Pregnancy.

University came with a new world, Sims could travel back and forth to any world (YAs) anytime.
New Careers and New Aspirations, new wants and wishes. Instruments to perform in bands. Part time jobs. A new life state, new aspiration rewards in every EP.

Open For Business came with crafting tables that not only your Sims could build things and use them (Not decor) and they actually worked, but so could their employees. Not just standing around or sitting around getting paid for nothing. OFB brought Unlimited Subhoods to add theirs or yours. New Aspirations, wants/wishes. Roam freely among as many subhoods as you like.

Nightlife came with vampires, restaurants, automobiles and limos< (base for sneak out and honeymoon). A new world, and Unlimited Downtown custom worlds, you fill up yourself. New Careers, Aspirations, wants and wishes. Chemistry system. Turns offs and ons.

New objects such as Karaoke and hot tubs. Live downtown or in your own subhoods, travel freely.

Pets, pet trainers and pet jobs. Small animals. Adopt a stray or give away a pet to be adopted next. Pets stores. Run a pet store. New life state.

Seasons, a new world. Gardening, actual working green house roofs, and walls, fruit trees, new perks for juicing. A new life state.

Bon Voyage, Three new worlds, and unlimited build/add your own vacation worlds. Swimming in oceans, (but we could swim in our own lakes since base game by using terrian tools). Tanning, sunburns, spas, new aspirations, wants, fears, wishes, new rewards, new careers.

FreeTime, New world, New Careers, New Aspirations, New wants, and fears, New hobbies, new hidden lots for hobby cliques. New Aspirations (2nd system with more perks and points.)

Apartment Life, Apartments, build your own. Mix and match condos with duplexes whatever, build it your way. New World. etc. etc.

This doesn't reflect all the interactions added, objects or clothes, townies, NPCs, life states, new clocks that actually kept time with the game clock, or all the gameplay.

What some consider has been a short time for TS4, I consider has been long enough, and if four years is a short time then look at TS2 and what all it had in just four short years. TS4 can't even be compared since it's still so tiny a game.

My two cents, let's end it now, and get on with TS5 or whatever it is Maxis is working on.

ETA: And we had bodyshop and Home Crafter (thanks Maxis!) from day one. Does anyone think TS4 will ever catch up? I don't.

No lounging chairs. When is the last time we saw four or five new Aspirations and new rewards in an EP? (TS2 or TS3). Everyone says TS4 reminds them of TS2 and not TS3, yes, TS3 is an even bigger game, but considering what TS4 still doesn't have after four loooong years, TS2 looks like a monster of a game (and I didn't even scratch the surface) in it's four short years.

Charlotta11
7 years ago
I've invested in sims 4 like many other so i want they add features i want before ending this searie. Many have put hundreds in sims 4 so i would be sad if they should forget about it and start new fresh base game and everone has to buy everything all over again. I think sims 5 would have same problems than sims 4 and bugs and bug fixes etc. Im not even sure would it be worth to invest another sims searie. Considering how much it cost, sometimes it feel like its all same game whit different look and if i should buy all this dcl etc every 4 years again. Atleast i wish that the game is complete and that they could add much more featured in one game so we could just invest in game we already own. Then we get something new perhabs and not just things we already had.
Cinebar
7 years ago
Yes, but just as before, we all spent hundreds (maybe) on the other three games per version, and they were ending by this time and much,much fuller at the four year mark. And had much more in their three - four year life spans than TS4 would possibly have after seven years. I was making the point of how much more there is to the other games at four year's end than in TS4.
Charlotta11
7 years ago
Yup, i got you're point now. I've have thought about the same thing.
justme22
7 years ago
I want them to take as long as necessary to make Sims 5 (if they're going to do it) and do it right. No object babies, no waiting 2+ years for toddlers, children who have play options that don't require "stuff", teens that don't feel like mini-adults (the mood swings from Parenthood should be in a Sims 5 base game), more definition between YA and Adults, and Elders that aren't just waiting for Grimmy to show up. Open world if it's done right -- maybe just the world you're in is open then you have a loading screen to travel to another world (like Willow Creek would be open but you'd have a loading screen to go to Oasis Springs which would then be open when you arrive.) If they start with the premise that it's going to be a single player sandbox game rather than some sort of online hybrid, they can develop the game with that in mind rather than switching courses midstream.

In the meantime, there are still content ideas for Sims 4 out there that can be explored. Magic, University (or improved education at all levels), Rural Living (maybe combine with "off the grid" features), Celebrity (as long as every Sim doesn't turn into a celebrity like Sims 3), more vacation destinations (build/run our own resorts?) -- the list goes on.
Cinebar
7 years ago
"stilljustme2;c-16747017" wrote:
I want them to take as long as necessary to make Sims 5 (if they're going to do it) and do it right. No object babies, no waiting 2+ years for toddlers, children who have play options that don't require "stuff", teens that don't feel like mini-adults (the mood swings from Parenthood should be in a Sims 5 base game), more definition between YA and Adults, and Elders that aren't just waiting for Grimmy to show up. Open world if it's done right -- maybe just the world you're in is open then you have a loading screen to travel to another world (like Willow Creek would be open but you'd have a loading screen to go to Oasis Springs which would then be open when you arrive.) If they start with the premise that it's going to be a single player sandbox game rather than some sort of online hybrid, they can develop the game with that in mind rather than switching courses midstream.

In the meantime, there are still content ideas for Sims 4 out there that can be explored. Magic, University (or improved education at all levels), Rural Living (maybe combine with "off the grid" features), Celebrity (as long as every Sim doesn't turn into a celebrity like Sims 3), more vacation destinations (build/run our own resorts?) -- the list goes on.

Of course, we all wanted more stuff for these games by the time they ended. But as I said earlier TS2 already had al that stuff by the time four years was up. And our vacation pack came with three vacation destinations and build your own, unlimited add on of many different vacation worlds. (And buy as many vacation homes in all of them, lol).
Hermitgirl
New Spectator
7 years ago
I don't care how long it takes. I think this game is overall better than the past games and I want it to be as complete as possible. I want it to touch on all the old themes and bring in some new ones. Witches, more Supernaturals, University, Stardom, Rural Living and Farms. I want Ocean swimming and tropical beaches, I want lots more hobbies and crafts. I want a Farm pack (that's been polled for). I want Servos and something futuristic added in also. I want a romance pack with couple dancing.. or something like that anyway. I could go on but I touched on my most wished for things at least.
We know we have at least 3 more years to go. I have no urge to wish and hope it away or even hurry it up. I hope it lasts longer actually.
I think it will end when we get the major themes from the past and a number of news ones to boot. For those of us that want this there and enjoy the Sims 4 there is no way we want it to just be over already.
The Sims has gone in another direction and is on another schedule.. it's the way it is. I'm pretty sure the next one will not follow the old standard either. I hope the next game is wonderful when it releases. I might be able to wait to buy it if I'm still busy playing this one but I hope it's a good game when it does eventually come.
MidnightAura86
New Spectator
7 years ago
I think if the game doesn’t feel complete by four years old, there is something wrong. I also wonder how complete it will feel in three years (assuming we get three years worth of content)
nixxi118
7 years ago
I’m with you. I’m ready for a TS5 and hope that they take suggestions to heart. I don’t hate TS4. I really don’t. I just think that they ignored or maybe just thought they knew better than the rest of us as to what we want. I mean 2 years for the same old toddlers we had before and a stuff pack dedicated to laundry? It feels like someone is just phoning this weak crap in and I’m over it. There are TONS of games out there supporting a hell of a lot more content with wide open environments that players can freely explore. They can’t blame it on a lack of technology when other games do it and do it well. So it TS4 isn’t a base format that can give us the kind of gameplay we want and even used to have, then it’s time to put out TS5 with a format that will.
Lonewolf1044
Seasoned Spectator
7 years ago
The way I see it, EA/Maxis may add other packs with more items and less robust features. I rather bail out of Sims 4 than spend more money on it over the next three years. I gave up on seeing features that increased the creativity of the player and see no point in me investing money on just items and little minor features here and there. If EA/Maxis is not using the technology that is available right now to take Sims 5 to the next level(If it does show up) I rather not partake and avoid another controversy.
LatinaBunny
New Spectator
7 years ago
I’m already deep into Sims 4, and I’m starting to really enjoy it. I want them to have some more content for it, and the devs can work on Sims 5 in the meantime using the feedback so far.

I want stuff like improved and freed babies, the improved toddlers again, proper full stages of teens/YA/elders, better Sims AI, and rotational play support all in the base game of Sims 5.

For now, I’d rather they keep adding content to Sims 4 and work on a much more improved Sims 5 in the meantime. I don’t want the company to start getting in a habit of abandoning games.