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6 years ago

Do you think 2020 could be TS4's last year?

or do you think it will continue another couple years?
Do you want TS4 to continue onwards?

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I am personally waiting for TS5, even with the speculation of it being online, I am still interested in seeing what the game has to offer. But if I feel like it's not worth it, I won't be paying out for multiple expansions, packs etc. It'd be a waste of money. But I still have hope it can be great, especially when the past 3 games were pretty good imo.

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Do you want TS4 to continue onwards?

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\"lexus20;c-17420289\" wrote:
I can think of many potential EPs for The Sims 4, so I think it could go up to 2021 or 2022 maybe:
-Farming EP (new)
-Generations EP (like TS3 Generations)
-Amusement/Water Parks EP (new)
-Time Traveling EP (like TS3 Into the Future, maybe with the option to travel to the past as well)
-Post-Apocalyptic EP (new)
-Reality Show EP (new)
-Superheroes/Supervillains EP (new)


OK, but that's no more innovative than the wish lists of TS2 or TS3 had by the time they wound down. Any of them could have carried on for several more years just by the things you listed. Though we already had some of all of that by the time TS2 and TS3 ended. It's not very mind blowing stuff happening there, just a continuance for the sake of raking in a few more dollars.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":1,"postTime":"2020-03-30T07:28:59.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-03-30T07:28:59.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:the-sims-4-en/category:the-sims-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en/message:2179581/message:2179612","repliesCount":0,"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"856","rawBody":"
\"lexus20;c-17420289\" wrote:
I can think of many potential EPs for The Sims 4, so I think it could go up to 2021 or 2022 maybe:
-Farming EP (new)
-Generations EP (like TS3 Generations)
-Amusement/Water Parks EP (new)
-Time Traveling EP (like TS3 Into the Future, maybe with the option to travel to the past as well)
-Post-Apocalyptic EP (new)
-Reality Show EP (new)
-Superheroes/Supervillains EP (new)


OK, but that's no more innovative than the wish lists of TS2 or TS3 had by the time they wound down. Any of them could have carried on for several more years just by the things you listed. Though we already had some of all of that by the time TS2 and TS3 ended. It's not very mind blowing stuff happening there, just a continuance for the sake of raking in a few more dollars.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2179612_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"Rank:rank:16":{"__typename":"Rank","id":"rank:16","position":26,"name":"Seasoned Veteran","color":"000000","icon":null,"rankStyle":"TEXT"},"User:user:125325":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:125325","uid":125325,"login":"AedanStarfang","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2015-04-27T05:23:20.306-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://eaavatarservice.akamaized.net/production/avatar/prod/userAvatar/32012790/416x416.PNG"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:16"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:tghpe58374/user:125325"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2179613":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2179613","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2179613":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:125325"},"id":"message:2179613","revisionNum":1,"uid":2179613,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2179581"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2179581"},"subject":"Re: Do you think 2020 could be TS4's last year?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2179613"},"body":"Until the Sims 5 officially releases the Sims 4 will continue to put out content, even if it's minimalistic and/or in the form of patches. 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Until they complete Sims 4 (still need story progression, werewolves, form bands, improved babies, etc...), how can one expect Sims 5 to be any better? Besides they said they have no planned time to end it, so it's when they are ready.

It would have to be a mix of Sims 2 and 4 to even consider it.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":1,"postTime":"2020-03-31T01:10:33.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-03-31T01:10:33.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:the-sims-4-en/category:the-sims-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en/message:2179581/message:2179614","repliesCount":0,"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"321","rawBody":"I doubt it. Until they complete Sims 4 (still need story progression, werewolves, form bands, improved babies, etc...), how can one expect Sims 5 to be any better? Besides they said they have no planned time to end it, so it's when they are ready.

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Do I think we The Sims 4 will end this year? No!
Should it Yes!

I feel The Sims4 is going a bit like Doctor who people are leaving the series down to a few (mostly) bad Ep's these are the las t2 series of doctor who while the series tanks the BBC(in our analogy ) keep telling us how amazing the next episode is and just shovel some more sub-standard stuff on us people are unimpressed and move on while EA/Maxis (BBC) keep kidding themselves that this is an amazing product and what people want.

guess what we we want a new Sims game not the same old stuff with a new swatch or something.
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Do I think we The Sims 4 will end this year? No!
Should it Yes!

I feel The Sims4 is going a bit like Doctor who people are leaving the series down to a few (mostly) bad Ep's these are the las t2 series of doctor who while the series tanks the BBC(in our analogy ) keep telling us how amazing the next episode is and just shovel some more sub-standard stuff on us people are unimpressed and move on while EA/Maxis (BBC) keep kidding themselves that this is an amazing product and what people want.

guess what we we want a new Sims game not the same old stuff with a new swatch or something.
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But I do think they need to end things in the next couple years. The limitations of the engine they’re using is going to prohibit them from making a lot of things (and making them done right). Hopefully whatever new engine they’re working on is better and not rushed and they take into consideration of a LOT of possible add ons...","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2020-03-31T07:58:18.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-03-31T07:58:18.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:the-sims-4-en/category:the-sims-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en/message:2179581/message:2179616","repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"484","rawBody":"I don’t think this year will be the last, especially now with everything going on (pretty are they’re not in office atm, or at least they shouldn’t be). But I do think they need to end things in the next couple years. The limitations of the engine they’re using is going to prohibit them from making a lot of things (and making them done right). Hopefully whatever new engine they’re working on is better and not rushed and they take into consideration of a LOT of possible add ons... 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\"BrittanyChick22;c-17419152\" wrote:
I wouldn't be mad if it was, but EA has already said they dragging this one out as long as possible. This is the longest sims game ever, and tones of players are still saying they're not satisfied with it.


The key word here being \"dragging.\" It's time for TS4 to fade into the sunset and for something new and better. For those who say \"But it isn't finished yet!,\" when was ANY Sims game ever truly finished? It's never finished.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":1,"postTime":"2020-03-31T12:48:51.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-03-31T12:48:51.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:the-sims-4-en/category:the-sims-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en/message:2179581/message:2179617","repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"511","rawBody":"
\"BrittanyChick22;c-17419152\" wrote:
I wouldn't be mad if it was, but EA has already said they dragging this one out as long as possible. This is the longest sims game ever, and tones of players are still saying they're not satisfied with it.


The key word here being \"dragging.\" It's time for TS4 to fade into the sunset and for something new and better. For those who say \"But it isn't finished yet!,\" when was ANY Sims game ever truly finished? It's never finished.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2179617_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:63613":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:63613","uid":63613,"login":"Cornwallfr","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2009-06-10T19:40:44.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://forums.ea.com/t5/s/tghpe58374/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-4.svg?time=1721239543000"},"rank":null,"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:tghpe58374/user:63613"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2179618":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2179618","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2179618":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:63613"},"id":"message:2179618","revisionNum":1,"uid":2179618,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2179581"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2179581"},"subject":"Re: Do you think 2020 could be TS4's last year?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2179618"},"body":"While I personally feel like moving on, considering my personnal appreciation of TS4, I can totally understand and relate to those who don't want to move on just yet.

When Appartment life came, and thus, TS2 came to its twilight, I felt utterly good about the series, and how could I not, after such 5 years being spoiled by one great pack after another, memorable sims, countless hours of genuine fun. I was ready to move on, optimistic.

And then came TS3 which marked a significant downgrade in my eyes. The open neighbourhood was naught but a giant stalker-fest, where they would relentlessly send sims to where the one you control was headed, to 'simulate a lively place', I felt as though sims were more and more alike to one another, almost every expansion messed with the neighbourhoods (artists townies after showtime, pets spawning randomly, randomly selected sims became supernaturals, the zombies... those damn zombies!), the relations between two sims remained mutual to the very end, the astrological characters were gone...
They took things away, never gave them back, and don't even get me started on the disrespect TS3 had towards the sim lore...

Now we are at TS4 and well I don't care much for it. But that just shows that change isn't always a good thing, and well it may seem contradictory, but I really understand TS4 afficionados feeling like not changing a formula they like (as much as I'm so ready to put it behind me). After all, had I known what the future looked like, I would've voiced my will to stay on TS2 for the next decade, back on TheSims2.com...

D.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2020-03-31T13:27:45.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-03-31T13:27:45.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:the-sims-4-en/category:the-sims-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en/message:2179581/message:2179618","repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1635","rawBody":"While I personally feel like moving on, considering my personnal appreciation of TS4, I can totally understand and relate to those who don't want to move on just yet.

When Appartment life came, and thus, TS2 came to its twilight, I felt utterly good about the series, and how could I not, after such 5 years being spoiled by one great pack after another, memorable sims, countless hours of genuine fun. I was ready to move on, optimistic.

And then came TS3 which marked a significant downgrade in my eyes. The open neighbourhood was naught but a giant stalker-fest, where they would relentlessly send sims to where the one you control was headed, to 'simulate a lively place', I felt as though sims were more and more alike to one another, almost every expansion messed with the neighbourhoods (artists townies after showtime, pets spawning randomly, randomly selected sims became supernaturals, the zombies... those damn zombies!), the relations between two sims remained mutual to the very end, the astrological characters were gone...
They took things away, never gave them back, and don't even get me started on the disrespect TS3 had towards the sim lore...

Now we are at TS4 and well I don't care much for it. But that just shows that change isn't always a good thing, and well it may seem contradictory, but I really understand TS4 afficionados feeling like not changing a formula they like (as much as I'm so ready to put it behind me). After all, had I known what the future looked like, I would've voiced my will to stay on TS2 for the next decade, back on TheSims2.com...

D.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":2,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2179618_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2179619":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2179619","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2179619":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:63613"},"id":"message:2179619","revisionNum":1,"uid":2179619,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2179581"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2179581"},"subject":"Re: Do you think 2020 could be TS4's last year?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2179619"},"body":"Listen, what games are you talking about in the end?

In TS3, if I go to the library, just anybody that isn't busy is requested to come, even folks who wouldn't normally set a foot there. Sorry but if libraries were visited by only bookworms and geniuses, I'd be less reluctant to go there. But nope, I got that Harley Greenwood buffon, and not even to read mind you, he came to play... computer games... Pre patch 1.69, awesomemod had a feature to prevent this exact behaviour which is utterly irritating. This feture doesn't work anymore, so I have to deal with the constant harass wherever I decide to send my sims.

Second point: No I don't. Sims 2 sims had five distinct character layers with their astrology, plus on top up to two aspirations, on top of which some had hidden aspirations, which led to chemistry. When they recreated those sims in TS3, they had to use all their traits to even remotely look like their TS2 counterpart. AND this character would determine their behaviour. It was so cute to see a very shy sim sticking by the sim they knew best because of stranger danger... memories... Also, that's only a personal preference, that's it.

Third point: I'm not talking about bugs, I'm talking about mess-up. When the bar's mixologist wears his magician outfit, that bugs me out. When Ye Gangnam becomes a fairy, that bugs me out. I mean I like my neigbourhoods intact. That's all. An opinion (I don't like it) based on a fact (it happens). Game does this and I don't like that.

Fourth point: isn't that obvious that I don't wanna turn my world into appocalypse? Welp no full moon for me thanks. And well that's just an opinion, not a fact. Did you read the key part 'in my eyes'?

Last point: Did you ever play the sims 3 :D ? I'm forced to ask, because clearely, you seem to have no idea that two sims have the exact same relationship points towards one another. The relationship is therefore 'mutual' see? If sim A has 100 friendship points towards sim B, sim B ALSO have 100 relationship points towards sim A. Facts, you know? T'wasn't the case in TS2. Look at the infamous Cassandra Goth/Darren Dreamer combo for an example. Also not in TS1.

Anyways, bottom line, and that's the only thing that mattered regards to the topic, I understand all the sims 4 fans who want to stick with the game they love because of a fear of change. I was on the reciving end of a change I didn't like is all I'm saying. Twice in a row.

D.
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In TS3, if I go to the library, just anybody that isn't busy is requested to come, even folks who wouldn't normally set a foot there. Sorry but if libraries were visited by only bookworms and geniuses, I'd be less reluctant to go there. But nope, I got that Harley Greenwood buffon, and not even to read mind you, he came to play... computer games... Pre patch 1.69, awesomemod had a feature to prevent this exact behaviour which is utterly irritating. This feture doesn't work anymore, so I have to deal with the constant harass wherever I decide to send my sims.

Second point: No I don't. Sims 2 sims had five distinct character layers with their astrology, plus on top up to two aspirations, on top of which some had hidden aspirations, which led to chemistry. When they recreated those sims in TS3, they had to use all their traits to even remotely look like their TS2 counterpart. AND this character would determine their behaviour. It was so cute to see a very shy sim sticking by the sim they knew best because of stranger danger... memories... Also, that's only a personal preference, that's it.

Third point: I'm not talking about bugs, I'm talking about mess-up. When the bar's mixologist wears his magician outfit, that bugs me out. When Ye Gangnam becomes a fairy, that bugs me out. I mean I like my neigbourhoods intact. That's all. An opinion (I don't like it) based on a fact (it happens). Game does this and I don't like that.

Fourth point: isn't that obvious that I don't wanna turn my world into appocalypse? Welp no full moon for me thanks. And well that's just an opinion, not a fact. Did you read the key part 'in my eyes'?

Last point: Did you ever play the sims 3 :D ? I'm forced to ask, because clearely, you seem to have no idea that two sims have the exact same relationship points towards one another. The relationship is therefore 'mutual' see? If sim A has 100 friendship points towards sim B, sim B ALSO have 100 relationship points towards sim A. Facts, you know? T'wasn't the case in TS2. Look at the infamous Cassandra Goth/Darren Dreamer combo for an example. Also not in TS1.

Anyways, bottom line, and that's the only thing that mattered regards to the topic, I understand all the sims 4 fans who want to stick with the game they love because of a fear of change. I was on the reciving end of a change I didn't like is all I'm saying. Twice in a row.

D.
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Look, to be clear, you're totally getting off-topic. I'm saying I understand Sims 4 fans, explain why TS3 failed to appeal to me, and say that despite not being a TS4 fan, I understand them plainly nontheless. Simple. I didn't call the game you like a bad game.

1-Rest are game facts. Bianca Rubble to the art gallery, any explanation? Followed by Kat Missonni, how about that? Well that's called player stalking. Pescado knows the game better than both of us. If he identifies this behaviour and mods it, that's cause it exists. Your Harley/Rei reference... really didn't make a strong case for you. Also, no matter how many I send home, others come, relentlessly, up until 10PM in regular neighbourhoods. Cause they're all in relation with Rei? How about Florita Hernandez? Oh Yes! Because the man she flirts with is married with a bookworm :/

2-No, not at all. Sometimes Loners isolate, sometimes not. They do what they feel regardless of their environement. Even if there is a stranger in the living-room, if Lola Belle wants to play the piano, she will, even if Kai and Moxie are outside. TS2 shy sims tend to use items close to sims they like (maybe to an extreme). Again that's a preference due to experience. Nothing more. I find them cute, period.

3-I do. Brigid steele serving in her singer outfit. Why did they put her in that career, nobody knows. And guess what, she defaults to that instead of the club regular outfit.

4-Quote the line when I say I'm the only person in the world. You praise zombies. I don't like them. That's all I'm saying. I never involved anybody else. I'm just shocked we can't turn them down with a single click. Instead, just no full moon. A shame, I like the light of the full moon.

5-If you prefer that's on you. I say that it's more appealing to me when two sims don't NECESSARELY feel the same towards one another. In TS3, if a sim likes another for 85 points, the other also does. Cassandra LTR towards Darren Dreamer is 69. Darren's is 85. I prefer it that way. I don't say it's the ultimate. Also for TS3 I hoped for a LTR meter, it never came, a shame for me.

Those are amongst the things that made TS3 less enjoyeable than TS2 for me. As such, again, all that is to say, if one love TS4 getting to a new game in TS5 may make them lose more than they gain. You love TS3, that's fine, I never said it was a bad game, nor did I try to convince you it sucks. Just taking an example on how it failed to keep my interest, just as TS5 could do for TS4 afficionados. This is called empathy.

Anyways I'm done here. This post asks a good question which divides the community, that's the topic and so it should stay. If you have questions on TS3 that you don't really seem to know so well, ask me in private. I'd be more than eager to enlighten you, rookie.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":1,"postTime":"2020-03-31T23:44:30.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-03-31T23:44:30.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:the-sims-4-en/category:the-sims-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en/message:2179581/message:2179620","repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"2920","rawBody":"My my... you're never wrong are you?
Look, to be clear, you're totally getting off-topic. I'm saying I understand Sims 4 fans, explain why TS3 failed to appeal to me, and say that despite not being a TS4 fan, I understand them plainly nontheless. Simple. I didn't call the game you like a bad game.

1-Rest are game facts. Bianca Rubble to the art gallery, any explanation? Followed by Kat Missonni, how about that? Well that's called player stalking. Pescado knows the game better than both of us. If he identifies this behaviour and mods it, that's cause it exists. Your Harley/Rei reference... really didn't make a strong case for you. Also, no matter how many I send home, others come, relentlessly, up until 10PM in regular neighbourhoods. Cause they're all in relation with Rei? How about Florita Hernandez? Oh Yes! Because the man she flirts with is married with a bookworm :/

2-No, not at all. Sometimes Loners isolate, sometimes not. They do what they feel regardless of their environement. Even if there is a stranger in the living-room, if Lola Belle wants to play the piano, she will, even if Kai and Moxie are outside. TS2 shy sims tend to use items close to sims they like (maybe to an extreme). Again that's a preference due to experience. Nothing more. I find them cute, period.

3-I do. Brigid steele serving in her singer outfit. Why did they put her in that career, nobody knows. And guess what, she defaults to that instead of the club regular outfit.

4-Quote the line when I say I'm the only person in the world. You praise zombies. I don't like them. That's all I'm saying. I never involved anybody else. I'm just shocked we can't turn them down with a single click. Instead, just no full moon. A shame, I like the light of the full moon.

5-If you prefer that's on you. I say that it's more appealing to me when two sims don't NECESSARELY feel the same towards one another. In TS3, if a sim likes another for 85 points, the other also does. Cassandra LTR towards Darren Dreamer is 69. Darren's is 85. I prefer it that way. I don't say it's the ultimate. Also for TS3 I hoped for a LTR meter, it never came, a shame for me.

Those are amongst the things that made TS3 less enjoyeable than TS2 for me. As such, again, all that is to say, if one love TS4 getting to a new game in TS5 may make them lose more than they gain. You love TS3, that's fine, I never said it was a bad game, nor did I try to convince you it sucks. Just taking an example on how it failed to keep my interest, just as TS5 could do for TS4 afficionados. This is called empathy.

Anyways I'm done here. This post asks a good question which divides the community, that's the topic and so it should stay. If you have questions on TS3 that you don't really seem to know so well, ask me in private. 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