I made this poll to ask a question about future Stuff Packs. Today, EA announced a Stuff Pack known as My First Pet which is supposed to enhance Cats and Dogs by adding in small Pets. This Stuff Pack got attention from Simmers who made their comments about this After today's announcement, I'm officially afraid of Sims 4: Seasons... So the next EP will probably be named "3 seasons" and we only get winter if we buy a stuff pack... Could EA have done something other than coming out with My First Pet? Feedback on Stuff Packs Tied to Expansion packs On the sims 4 my first petThere are two outcomes of releasing a Stuff Pack made for an Expansion Pack or Game Pack. The first case is that EA could enhance the Expansion Pack or Game Pack by adding bonus content through a Stuff Pack to make the EP/GP more useful. On the other case, Simmers fear that EA may deliberately avoid including the content in an EP or GP so they could sell the missing content through a Stuff Pack similar to what they had done with The Sims 3 where EA deliberately not included the content in Expansion Packs so they could sell them as Premium Content or though Worlds. My First Pet is one example of this as it implies that EA stripped the small rodents from Cats and Dogs so they could sell it as a separate Stuff Pack rather than adding the content through a free update. This is a departure from previous games as previous Pets games (The Sims Unleashed, The Sims 2 Pets, and The Sims 3 Pets) had small rodents included in addition to Cats and Dogs as well as Horses in TS3 whereas The Sims 4 requires you to purchase both Cats and Dogs and My First Pet to have the same features as previous Pets games. Even TS4 deviated with having EP objects being included in Stuff Packs such as Hot Tubs being in Perfect Patio (included in TS1/TS2's base game and TS3 Late Night), Butlers being in Vintage Glamour (included in The Sims 3 Late Night), Laundry being in Laundry Day (included in The Sims 3 Ambitions), Slip and Slide being in Backyard (included in The Sims 3 Generations), and Bowling being in Bowling Night (included in The Sims 3 University Life).What do you think EA will do with future Stuff Packs?

If this one sells well they will.

I don't care to speculate about this either way, though I also don't have a problem if they do. (Some of the older packs, like GT and GTW, could use some more updates if you ask me.) But I'm gonna go ahead and mention that comparing previous releases in the series, such as from Sims 3, to current ones, is pointless. The gurus have said many times there is no continual pattern from the past that they're going on this time around. Saying Sims 3 Pets had this, that and the other thing is irrelevant. Sims 4 has Cats & Dogs, and now this new pet pack too, not a Pets EP, and it wasn't intended as such. That's not to say you can't feel this new pack was somehow supposed to be with Cats & Dogs (I don't share that opinion but you're welcome to it), but C&D was never meant to be all inclusive to every pet regardless.

I don't think anything is off-limits at this point. People could complain about a small selection of majors in a university pack, and EA would sell new majors in an SP that would only work if you had the university pack (of course).I wouldn't have minded the new SP as much if C&D had a lot more pet furniture to the point where additional ones would feel like a bonus, rather than an attempt to monetize another pack's shortcomings. And if it had a complete set of small pets, not just rodents.

"Lustianicia;c-16378121" wrote:Logically speaking, they shouldn't... I mean, "My First Pet" shouldn't even be a thing to begin with... however, this is EA we're talking about, sadly... and we all know EA's only goal is money, money, and more money. They couldn't care less about the players... just as long as we keep giving them our money. That's literally all they care about. Also, there are way too many people who are blindly buying this stuff pack just because they'll literally just purchase anything EA comes out with. So yeah, if this pack sells well (sadly, it will), I'm sure we'll be seeing this happen in the future... which is why the fan base for this game is getting smaller and smaller. It's EA's own greediness that's causing this franchise to fail. My best hope is that they'll finally get some competition soon... just like what happened with SimCity VS Cities Skylines. SimCity was literally destroyed and killed by the release of Cities Skylines. If the future of this franchise is to keep being a cash cow that ends up splitting one pack into several different ones, then I definitely hope a good enough life simulation game comes out to do the same to The Sims as Cities Skylines did to SimCity... it's long overdue. Plus, it'll finally serve justice to EA and their greediness. They have nobody to blame but themselves if this happens. Excuse me don't speak for others its none of your business what others do stick to what you do. Cities Skylines isn't Simcity and they aren't competing there is no one to compete with Simcity died before Cities Skylines came out. To the OP you shouldn't be posting stuff like this because people are just getting angry over others comments that they should be minding their own business over. I would like to say I own every pack in this game and I won't stop buying them and if that makes others think I blindly just buy everything puts out then yes I will admit I do. But that is my business it shouldn't affect anyone else on the forum.

"happygurl;c-16378149" wrote:"Lustianicia;c-16378121" wrote:Logically speaking, they shouldn't... I mean, "My First Pet" shouldn't even be a thing to begin with... however, this is EA we're talking about, sadly... and we all know EA's only goal is money, money, and more money. They couldn't care less about the players... just as long as we keep giving them our money. That's literally all they care about. Also, there are way too many people who are blindly buying this stuff pack just because they'll literally just purchase anything EA comes out with. So yeah, if this pack sells well (sadly, it will), I'm sure we'll be seeing this happen in the future... which is why the fan base for this game is getting smaller and smaller. It's EA's own greediness that's causing this franchise to fail. My best hope is that they'll finally get some competition soon... just like what happened with SimCity VS Cities Skylines. SimCity was literally destroyed and killed by the release of Cities Skylines. If the future of this franchise is to keep being a cash cow that ends up splitting one pack into several different ones, then I definitely hope a good enough life simulation game comes out to do the same to The Sims as Cities Skylines did to SimCity... it's long overdue. Plus, it'll finally serve justice to EA and their greediness. They have nobody to blame but themselves if this happens. The bolded comment is not true. You really don't think much of the sim community, do you? I happen to think we're more intelligent than you give us credit for.LMAO! You mean the same community that said they wouldn't mind purchasing toddlers in an expansion pack? The same community that's literally paying an extra $10 for content they should already have in Cats & Dogs? The same community that keeps allowing EA to rip them off and not even acknowledge it happening? That one? lol

Do you think EA will include missing DLC (EP/GP) content in a Stuff Pack?

adrefpn
7 years ago
If this one sells well they will.
TheGoodOldGamer
7 years ago
I don't care to speculate about this either way, though I also don't have a problem if they do. (Some of the older packs, like GT and GTW, could use some more updates if you ask me.) But I'm gonna go ahead and mention that comparing previous releases in the series, such as from Sims 3, to current ones, is pointless.

The gurus have said many times there is no continual pattern from the past that they're going on this time around. Saying Sims 3 Pets had this, that and the other thing is irrelevant. Sims 4 has Cats & Dogs, and now this new pet pack too, not a Pets EP, and it wasn't intended as such. That's not to say you can't feel this new pack was somehow supposed to be with Cats & Dogs (I don't share that opinion but you're welcome to it), but C&D was never meant to be all inclusive to every pet regardless.
icemanfresh
Seasoned Newcomer
7 years ago
I don't think anything is off-limits at this point. People could complain about a small selection of majors in a university pack, and EA would sell new majors in an SP that would only work if you had the university pack (of course).

I wouldn't have minded the new SP as much if C&D had a lot more pet furniture to the point where additional ones would feel like a bonus, rather than an attempt to monetize another pack's shortcomings. And if it had a complete set of small pets, not just rodents.
pepperjax1230
Rising Novice
7 years ago
"Lustianicia;c-16378121" wrote:
Logically speaking, they shouldn't... I mean, "My First Pet" shouldn't even be a thing to begin with... however, this is EA we're talking about, sadly... and we all know EA's only goal is money, money, and more money. They couldn't care less about the players... just as long as we keep giving them our money. That's literally all they care about.

Also, there are way too many people who are blindly buying this stuff pack just because they'll literally just purchase anything EA comes out with. So yeah, if this pack sells well (sadly, it will), I'm sure we'll be seeing this happen in the future... which is why the fan base for this game is getting smaller and smaller. It's EA's own greediness that's causing this franchise to fail.

My best hope is that they'll finally get some competition soon... just like what happened with SimCity VS Cities Skylines. SimCity was literally destroyed and killed by the release of Cities Skylines. If the future of this franchise is to keep being a cash cow that ends up splitting one pack into several different ones, then I definitely hope a good enough life simulation game comes out to do the same to The Sims as Cities Skylines did to SimCity... it's long overdue. Plus, it'll finally serve justice to EA and their greediness. They have nobody to blame but themselves if this happens.
Excuse me don't speak for others its none of your business what others do stick to what you do. Cities Skylines isn't Simcity and they aren't competing there is no one to compete with Simcity died before Cities Skylines came out. To the OP you shouldn't be posting stuff like this because people are just getting angry over others comments that they should be minding their own business over. I would like to say I own every pack in this game and I won't stop buying them and if that makes others think I blindly just buy everything puts out then yes I will admit I do. But that is my business it shouldn't affect anyone else on the forum.
Lustianicia
7 years ago
"happygurl;c-16378149" wrote:
"Lustianicia;c-16378121" wrote:
Logically speaking, they shouldn't... I mean, "My First Pet" shouldn't even be a thing to begin with... however, this is EA we're talking about, sadly... and we all know EA's only goal is money, money, and more money. They couldn't care less about the players... just as long as we keep giving them our money. That's literally all they care about.

Also, there are way too many people who are blindly buying this stuff pack just because they'll literally just purchase anything EA comes out with. So yeah, if this pack sells well (sadly, it will), I'm sure we'll be seeing this happen in the future... which is why the fan base for this game is getting smaller and smaller. It's EA's own greediness that's causing this franchise to fail.

My best hope is that they'll finally get some competition soon... just like what happened with SimCity VS Cities Skylines. SimCity was literally destroyed and killed by the release of Cities Skylines. If the future of this franchise is to keep being a cash cow that ends up splitting one pack into several different ones, then I definitely hope a good enough life simulation game comes out to do the same to The Sims as Cities Skylines did to SimCity... it's long overdue. Plus, it'll finally serve justice to EA and their greediness. They have nobody to blame but themselves if this happens.

The bolded comment is not true. You really don't think much of the sim community, do you? I happen to think we're more intelligent than you give us credit for.

LMAO! You mean the same community that said they wouldn't mind purchasing toddlers in an expansion pack? The same community that's literally paying an extra $10 for content they should already have in Cats & Dogs? The same community that keeps allowing EA to rip them off and not even acknowledge it happening? That one? lol
pepperjax1230
Rising Novice
7 years ago
"Lustianicia;c-16378198" wrote:
"happygurl;c-16378149" wrote:
"Lustianicia;c-16378121" wrote:
Logically speaking, they shouldn't... I mean, "My First Pet" shouldn't even be a thing to begin with... however, this is EA we're talking about, sadly... and we all know EA's only goal is money, money, and more money. They couldn't care less about the players... just as long as we keep giving them our money. That's literally all they care about.

Also, there are way too many people who are blindly buying this stuff pack just because they'll literally just purchase anything EA comes out with. So yeah, if this pack sells well (sadly, it will), I'm sure we'll be seeing this happen in the future... which is why the fan base for this game is getting smaller and smaller. It's EA's own greediness that's causing this franchise to fail.

My best hope is that they'll finally get some competition soon... just like what happened with SimCity VS Cities Skylines. SimCity was literally destroyed and killed by the release of Cities Skylines. If the future of this franchise is to keep being a cash cow that ends up splitting one pack into several different ones, then I definitely hope a good enough life simulation game comes out to do the same to The Sims as Cities Skylines did to SimCity... it's long overdue. Plus, it'll finally serve justice to EA and their greediness. They have nobody to blame but themselves if this happens.

The bolded comment is not true. You really don't think much of the sim community, do you? I happen to think we're more intelligent than you give us credit for.

LMAO! You mean the same community that said they wouldn't mind purchasing toddlers in an expansion pack? The same community that's literally paying an extra $10 for content they should already have in Cats & Dogs? The same community that keeps allowing EA to rip them off and not even acknowledge it happening? That one? lol
Then don't buy it that is a solution and quit telling people your ruining the franchise by buying every pack. I could careless if the SP was supposed to be in an EP I will still buy it end of story.
Lustianicia
7 years ago
"pepperjax1230;c-16378168" wrote:
"Lustianicia;c-16378121" wrote:
Logically speaking, they shouldn't... I mean, "My First Pet" shouldn't even be a thing to begin with... however, this is EA we're talking about, sadly... and we all know EA's only goal is money, money, and more money. They couldn't care less about the players... just as long as we keep giving them our money. That's literally all they care about.

Also, there are way too many people who are blindly buying this stuff pack just because they'll literally just purchase anything EA comes out with. So yeah, if this pack sells well (sadly, it will), I'm sure we'll be seeing this happen in the future... which is why the fan base for this game is getting smaller and smaller. It's EA's own greediness that's causing this franchise to fail.

My best hope is that they'll finally get some competition soon... just like what happened with SimCity VS Cities Skylines. SimCity was literally destroyed and killed by the release of Cities Skylines. If the future of this franchise is to keep being a cash cow that ends up splitting one pack into several different ones, then I definitely hope a good enough life simulation game comes out to do the same to The Sims as Cities Skylines did to SimCity... it's long overdue. Plus, it'll finally serve justice to EA and their greediness. They have nobody to blame but themselves if this happens.
Excuse me don't speak for others its none of your business what others do stick to what you do. Cities Skylines isn't Simcity and they aren't competing there is no one to compete with Simcity died before Cities Skylines came out. To the OP you shouldn't be posting stuff like this because people are just getting angry over others comments that they should be minding their own business over. I would like to say I own every pack in this game and I won't stop buying them and if that makes others think I blindly just buy everything puts out then yes I will admit I do. But that is my business it shouldn't affect anyone else on the forum.

"Cities Skylines isn't SimCity."

Really!? Wow... and here I was thinking they were the same thing... you definitely got me there! (sarcasm)

And yes, Cities Skylines IS competition against SimCity. You don't really know how this works, do you? lol Most people who play Cities Skylines are former fans of SimCity who were disappointed at the horrible game that SimCity turned into when the 2013 version was released. By definition, since Cities Skylines is another city builder, that makes it a competitor to SimCity. You have no idea how this works.

"To the OP you shouldn't be posting stuff like this because people are just getting angry over others comments that they should be minding their own business over"

Excuse me? lol This is a PUBLIC FORUM... I'm very entitled to express my opinions... especially on a post that literally ASKED about my own opinion. This seems to be another thing you simply don't comprehend... lol A public forum is literally a place where everyone is entitled to speak. If you want people to "mind their own business", then get off a public forum... lol

"I would like to say I own every pack in this game and I won't stop buying them and if that makes others think I blindly just buy everything puts out then yes I will admit I do."

Like I said several times, you're entitled to do whatever you want. I never said otherwise.
Lustianicia
7 years ago
"pepperjax1230;c-16378201" wrote:
"Lustianicia;c-16378198" wrote:
"happygurl;c-16378149" wrote:
"Lustianicia;c-16378121" wrote:
Logically speaking, they shouldn't... I mean, "My First Pet" shouldn't even be a thing to begin with... however, this is EA we're talking about, sadly... and we all know EA's only goal is money, money, and more money. They couldn't care less about the players... just as long as we keep giving them our money. That's literally all they care about.

Also, there are way too many people who are blindly buying this stuff pack just because they'll literally just purchase anything EA comes out with. So yeah, if this pack sells well (sadly, it will), I'm sure we'll be seeing this happen in the future... which is why the fan base for this game is getting smaller and smaller. It's EA's own greediness that's causing this franchise to fail.

My best hope is that they'll finally get some competition soon... just like what happened with SimCity VS Cities Skylines. SimCity was literally destroyed and killed by the release of Cities Skylines. If the future of this franchise is to keep being a cash cow that ends up splitting one pack into several different ones, then I definitely hope a good enough life simulation game comes out to do the same to The Sims as Cities Skylines did to SimCity... it's long overdue. Plus, it'll finally serve justice to EA and their greediness. They have nobody to blame but themselves if this happens.

The bolded comment is not true. You really don't think much of the sim community, do you? I happen to think we're more intelligent than you give us credit for.

LMAO! You mean the same community that said they wouldn't mind purchasing toddlers in an expansion pack? The same community that's literally paying an extra $10 for content they should already have in Cats & Dogs? The same community that keeps allowing EA to rip them off and not even acknowledge it happening? That one? lol
Then don't buy it that is a solution and quit telling people your ruining the franchise by buying every pack. I could careless if the SP was supposed to be in an EP I will still buy it end of story.

I'm not buying it... lol Trust me. Also, by purchasing a stuff pack that's basically an extra $10 for an already released expansion pack, you ARE contributing to ruining the franchise. I'm not saying you're not allowed to do it... I NEVER said that! In fact, I said the opposite... I've said several times that people can buy whatever they want with this game... however, don't deny that you're literally giving EA a free pass to be greedy by doing so.
pepperjax1230
Rising Novice
7 years ago
"Lustianicia;c-16378213" wrote:
Excuse me don't speak for others its none of your business what others do stick to what you do. Cities Skylines isn't Simcity and they aren't competing there is no one to compete with Simcity died before Cities Skylines came out. To the OP you shouldn't be posting stuff like this because people are just getting angry over others comments that they should be minding their own business over. I would like to say I own every pack in this game and I won't stop buying them and if that makes others think I blindly just buy everything puts out then yes I will admit I do. But that is my business it shouldn't affect anyone else on the forum.

"Cities Skylines isn't SimCity."

Really!? Wow... and here I was thinking they were the same thing... you definitely got me there! (sarcasm)

And yes, Cities Skylines IS competition against SimCity. You don't really know how this works, do you? lol Most people who play Cities Skylines are former fans of SimCity who were disappointed at the horrible game that SimCity turned into when the 2013 version was released. By definition, since Cities Skylines is another city builder, that makes it a competitor to SimCity. You have no idea how this works.

"To the OP you shouldn't be posting stuff like this because people are just getting angry over others comments that they should be minding their own business over"

Excuse me? lol This is a PUBLIC FORUM... I'm very entitled to express my opinions... especially on a post that literally ASKED about my own opinion. This seems to be another thing you simply don't comprehend... lol A public forum is literally a place where everyone is entitled to speak. If you want people to "mind their own business", then get off a public forum... lol

"I would like to say I own every pack in this game and I won't stop buying them and if that makes others think I blindly just buy everything puts out then yes I will admit I do."

Like I said several times, you're entitled to do whatever you want. I never said otherwise.I am done I have both Simcity and Cities Skyline and they aren't the same. They are both city builders but Cities Skylines isn't a competition with Simcity that game died a year after it was released they stop supporting it. That doesn't mean Cities Skylines took its place because it won any prize.
Lustianicia
7 years ago
LMAO! I can't even deal with this...

"I have both SimCity and Cities Skylines and they aren't the same."

I mean, how dense can you possibly be to not even slightly comprehend anything I'm saying? LOL!

"They are both city builders but Cities Skylines isn't a competition with Simcity"

LMAO! Wow... just wow... the denial is strong here.

I honestly don't have the patience or time to be arguing with someone who doesn't even understand the basic comprehension of what it means to be a competitor to a company.