Do you think we will get another expansion this year?

"Erpe;c-16492583" wrote:

"IceyJ;c-16492416" wrote:
@Erpe

"Erpe;c-16491924" wrote:
I won’t be surprised if Seasons even becomes the very last EP for the Sims 4. But I expect EA to release both an SP and a GP too this year.

You must have missed this tweet:
https://twitter.com/SimGuruGrant/status/999310302498848769?tfw_creator=SimsVIP&tfw_site=SimsVIP&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fsimsvip.com%2F2018%2F05%2F23%2Fsimgurugrant-asks-pick-a-wacky-expansion-theme%2F

No, I didn’t miss it. But where does it say that those are EPs for TS4? Maybe only one of them will ever be released and then it could be a GP for TS4 or maybe even some pack for TS5?

He said there creating content for sims 4 years in. Why would they create sims 5 content first ? He even said there 100% dedacated to sims 4 content. There’s no % left for sims 5 stuff lol

I'm only voting no because I don't want to get my hopes too high to be honest. If it did happen it would be a real shocker to me but then again if they keep releasing only one EP a year the sims 4 is going to be around a lot longer (which isnt a problem for me.) They still have a lot to add tbh. University, Generations (I don't really count the parenting game pack too much to be a generation replacement.), Supernatural (I know some people keep saying they probably plan on separating all of the life states but I literally highly doubt it.)

"Erpe;c-16494147" wrote:

"IceyJ;c-16494076" wrote:

"Erpe;c-16494015" wrote:
@SimTrippy I know. But in EA’s terminology “soon” usually means about 8 months and “for years out” could just be some wish he said deliberately ignoring what he knows about TS5 because he isn’t allowed to talk about TS5 yet. If he could guarantee that TS4 still will get new packs at least until 2020 then why doesn’t he say so?

Yes, he knows that simmers always have wanted more and also about everything from TS2 and TS3. But instead everything has been simplified and there is no way that he suddenly can guarantee that it all will come anyway. He also has to encourage us to buy more though. So is this just what he attempts with loose promises that he knows he won’t fully be able to fulfill anyway?

So this is what being in denial looks like, lol. Grant literally said 'expansion' in the earlier tweet and has made it clear TS4 isn't going anywhere for years. Too proud to concede, huh? :D

Your guess is as good as mine. But Grant isn’t EA’s CEO or even on EA’s Board of Directors. So I don’t believe that EA’s top have told him that he can continue to just make EPs for TS4 at least 5 years more ;)

He may not be CEO, but as lead producer of EPs and the game in general, he surely knows how many years in advance they've planned out packs. So if they're planning packs for years out, they're obviously not ready to release TS5. Logic.

"Erpe;c-16494205" wrote:

"simgirl1010;c-16494162" wrote:

"Erpe;c-16494147" wrote:

"IceyJ;c-16494076" wrote:

"Erpe;c-16494015" wrote:
@SimTrippy I know. But in EA’s terminology “soon” usually means about 8 months and “for years out” could just be some wish he said deliberately ignoring what he knows about TS5 because he isn’t allowed to talk about TS5 yet. If he could guarantee that TS4 still will get new packs at least until 2020 then why doesn’t he say so?

Yes, he knows that simmers always have wanted more and also about everything from TS2 and TS3. But instead everything has been simplified and there is no way that he suddenly can guarantee that it all will come anyway. He also has to encourage us to buy more though. So is this just what he attempts with loose promises that he knows he won’t fully be able to fulfill anyway?

So this is what being in denial looks like, lol. Grant literally said 'expansion' in the earlier tweet and has made it clear TS4 isn't going anywhere for years. Too proud to concede, huh? :D

Your guess is as good as mine. But Grant isn’t EA’s CEO or even on EA’s Board of Directors. So I don’t believe that EA’s top have told him that he can continue to just make EPs for TS4 at least 5 years more ;)

He didn't say at least 5 years more.

https://twitter.com/SimGuruGrant/status/1000174328682397696?s=19

I'm thinking 2-3 years.

Yes. But even 2-3 years don’t sound likely to me. The reason mainly is the picture I have in my head about EA’s CEO giving a financial report to the stock holders and then being asked about EA’s plans for the Sims games. “How is sales numbers going and will you soon be ready to release the Sims 5?” and then I just can’t imaging him answer: ”Sales numbers for the packs have begun to go down. But we don’t plan to release the next big Sims game very soon anyway because we still earn a little money on the Sims 4 packs although the older packs sold better when we released them a couple of years ago.” because I imagine that some of the stock holders then would ask for a better explanation of the fact that they pay so many millions to EA’s top and board members in yearly salaries if they really don’t have higher goals than this. EA’s top are under constant pressure to show results and to have ideas about progress instead of being satisfied with just status quo (or even with small reductions in EA’s income and sales numbers).

So, when Grant said 'years,' you think maybe he meant, what... One? Your reasoning is all made up in your head instead of believing what's right in front of you. Apparently, sales for TS4 are just fine and EA's going to milk it as long as they can. Get used to it. :)

"Erpe;c-16494253" wrote:

"elelunicy;c-16494210" wrote:

"IceyJ;c-16494076" wrote:
So this is what being in denial looks like, lol. Grant literally said 'expansion' in the earlier tweet and has made it clear TS4 isn't going anywhere for years. Too proud to concede, huh? :D

@Erpe should start preparing some excuses, such as “TS5 is just experiencing last-minute development difficulties guys! That’s the only reason why it’s not announced yet!” or “Don’t worry TS5 is just having a minor delay! Just wait one more month I promise you it will get announced this time!” cause time passes fast and it won’t be long before we’re in 2019.

Why? I have never expected TS5 to be announced before this summer and EA Play, E3 or Gamescom seem to be the best places to do that.

But maybe you are right that TS5 has been postponed at least a year more. But if it hasn’t been announced before September then I will sure start wondering why not? ;)

It's not been postponed because it was never planned in the first place. My goodness it's been clear from the start with the way that they're drip feeding us packs for TS4 (particularly expansion packs) that they're going to keep TS4 going a lot longer the it's predecessors managed. One of the earliest things we were told is that they went with this particular art style because it's ageless; compare how outdated TS3 looks right now to TS4 (which itself is still a four year old game). Add to this the fact that Grant has outright said that they're planning packs for years down the line. Pets and Seasons in previous versions have take upwards of two years to do. Other expansions take at least one year. Now, I'm assuming that since they've completed the console release they've thrown some more staff at the expansions OR that they are building more than one at a time (despite previously claiming that they only have one team on them now) which is why Seasons is being released so close to Cats and Dogs. I'd also assume that as the two heaviest packs are out of the way they can focus on getting packs out more frequently; it wouldn't be unlike TS3 in its final years when we were getting packs released much more often. However, the difference here is that whilst we're in year five, we've only got four expansions so far. The game is severely lacking. They can make a lot more money out of TS4 without the huge expense of having to build and entire new game (and engine) from the ground up. Economically they'll make more money right now by continuing with TS4.

It has a long way to go yet. Please, stop insisting that they're getting ready to announce a sequel, you'll only have your hopes dashed.

Well...
Maybe.

If portions of Seasons have been in the works since the beginning, they could have worked on the difficult parts first, with a small team with multiple responsibilities, and once the concept was proven it could have been a shorter development time to make the EP. You would think weather would be one of the big questions for the TS4 game engine from the start.

Meanwhile, work could have bee progressing on the next EP for Christmas.
A game pack probably in the Fall (hopefully Farming, or Witches) and a few stuff packs.

"Moodbeamy;c-16495099" wrote:

"Erpe;c-16494253" wrote:

"elelunicy;c-16494210" wrote:

"IceyJ;c-16494076" wrote:
So this is what being in denial looks like, lol. Grant literally said 'expansion' in the earlier tweet and has made it clear TS4 isn't going anywhere for years. Too proud to concede, huh? :D

@Erpe should start preparing some excuses, such as “TS5 is just experiencing last-minute development difficulties guys! That’s the only reason why it’s not announced yet!” or “Don’t worry TS5 is just having a minor delay! Just wait one more month I promise you it will get announced this time!” cause time passes fast and it won’t be long before we’re in 2019.

Why? I have never expected TS5 to be announced before this summer and EA Play, E3 or Gamescom seem to be the best places to do that.

But maybe you are right that TS5 has been postponed at least a year more. But if it hasn’t been announced before September then I will sure start wondering why not? ;)

It's not been postponed because it was never planned in the first place. My goodness it's been clear from the start with the way that they're drip feeding us packs for TS4 (particularly expansion packs) that they're going to keep TS4 going a lot longer the it's predecessors managed. One of the earliest things we were told is that they went with this particular art style because it's ageless; compare how outdated TS3 looks right now to TS4 (which itself is still a four year old game). Add to this the fact that Grant has outright said that they're planning packs for years down the line. Pets and Seasons in previous versions have take upwards of two years to do. Other expansions take at least one year. Now, I'm assuming that since they've completed the console release they've thrown some more staff at the expansions OR that they are building more than one at a time (despite previously claiming that they only have one team on them now) which is why Seasons is being released so close to Cats and Dogs. I'd also assume that as the two heaviest packs are out of the way they can focus on getting packs out more frequently; it wouldn't be unlike TS3 in its final years when we were getting packs released much more often. However, the difference here is that whilst we're in year five, we've only got four expansions so far. The game is severely lacking. They can make a lot more money out of TS4 without the huge expense of having to build and entire new game (and engine) from the ground up. Economically they'll make more money right now by continuing with TS4.

It has a long way to go yet. Please, stop insisting that they're getting ready to announce a sequel, you'll only have your hopes dashed.

Actually, Sims 4 turns four in September, so it's a little over 3 1/2. Maybe it just feels longer to some people? :D

"IceyJ;c-16495018" wrote:

"Erpe;c-16494147" wrote:

"IceyJ;c-16494076" wrote:

"Erpe;c-16494015" wrote:
@SimTrippy I know. But in EA’s terminology “soon” usually means about 8 months and “for years out” could just be some wish he said deliberately ignoring what he knows about TS5 because he isn’t allowed to talk about TS5 yet. If he could guarantee that TS4 still will get new packs at least until 2020 then why doesn’t he say so?

Yes, he knows that simmers always have wanted more and also about everything from TS2 and TS3. But instead everything has been simplified and there is no way that he suddenly can guarantee that it all will come anyway. He also has to encourage us to buy more though. So is this just what he attempts with loose promises that he knows he won’t fully be able to fulfill anyway?

So this is what being in denial looks like, lol. Grant literally said 'expansion' in the earlier tweet and has made it clear TS4 isn't going anywhere for years. Too proud to concede, huh? :D

Your guess is as good as mine. But Grant isn’t EA’s CEO or even on EA’s Board of Directors. So I don’t believe that EA’s top have told him that he can continue to just make EPs for TS4 at least 5 years more ;)

He may not be CEO, but as lead producer of EPs and the game in general, he surely knows how many years in advance they've planned out packs. So if they're planning packs for years out, they're obviously not ready to release TS5. Logic.

The logic isn’t that obvious to me.

A thing that I noted was that when TS3 was about to end then EA increased the number of yearly EPs from 2 to 3 and afair more other things were increased too in 2012-2013 and even after TS4 already had been announced. I wondered why? Sales numbers obviously still were high enough to make this profitable even though they must have become lower than they were in 2009-2011. So why did EA suddenly release more just before TS4 was about to be released anyway?

My guess is that the reason mainly was that each new basegame (and especially TS4) are targeted at new simmers and that EA knows that simmers who already own the old game will hesitate and often wait a couple of years before they maybe will buy the new game anyway. But then EA wants to give them a little more packs to buy until they switch to the new game. But those packs still sell best anyway if they are released before the new basegame is released. So if EA increases the number of yearly packs then this could actually be a signal that a new basegame soon will be released (and still mainly targeted at new simmers).

I am not sure that EA plans which packs to release even years before they are released because EA has often changed the schedule and suddenly made unplanned packs with short notice. Apparently EA studies the market all the time and is ready to make changes whenever they feel that this could be profitable. But if even EA’s top don’t know then Grant sure doesn’t know either. I agree though that he knows much more than he tells us because TS5 must have been in development in the same building and he surely knows how far the development of TS5 is now. He just wants to encourage us though and therefore mainly wants us to be exited about the remaining packs for TS4 for now.

"Erpe;c-16495697" wrote:

"IceyJ;c-16495018" wrote:

"Erpe;c-16494147" wrote:

"IceyJ;c-16494076" wrote:

"Erpe;c-16494015" wrote:
@SimTrippy I know. But in EA’s terminology “soon” usually means about 8 months and “for years out” could just be some wish he said deliberately ignoring what he knows about TS5 because he isn’t allowed to talk about TS5 yet. If he could guarantee that TS4 still will get new packs at least until 2020 then why doesn’t he say so?

Yes, he knows that simmers always have wanted more and also about everything from TS2 and TS3. But instead everything has been simplified and there is no way that he suddenly can guarantee that it all will come anyway. He also has to encourage us to buy more though. So is this just what he attempts with loose promises that he knows he won’t fully be able to fulfill anyway?

So this is what being in denial looks like, lol. Grant literally said 'expansion' in the earlier tweet and has made it clear TS4 isn't going anywhere for years. Too proud to concede, huh? :D

Your guess is as good as mine. But Grant isn’t EA’s CEO or even on EA’s Board of Directors. So I don’t believe that EA’s top have told him that he can continue to just make EPs for TS4 at least 5 years more ;)

He may not be CEO, but as lead producer of EPs and the game in general, he surely knows how many years in advance they've planned out packs. So if they're planning packs for years out, they're obviously not ready to release TS5. Logic.

The logic isn’t that obvious to me.

A thing that I noted was that when TS3 was about to end then EA increased the number of yearly EPs from 2 to 3 and afair more other things were increased too in 2012-2013 and even after TS4 already had been announced. I wondered why? Sales numbers obviously still were high enough to make this profitable even though they must have become lower than they were in 2009-2011. So why did EA suddenly release more just before TS4 was about to be released anyway?

My guess is that the reason mainly was that each new basegame (and especially TS4) are targeted at new simmers and that EA knows that simmers who already own the old game will hesitate and often wait a couple of years before they maybe will buy the new game anyway. But then EA wants to give them a little more packs to buy until they switch to the new game. But those packs still sell best anyway if they are released before the new basegame is released. So if EA increases the number of yearly packs then this could actually be a signal that a new basegame soon will be released (and still mainly targeted at new simmers).

I am not sure that EA plans which packs to release even years before they are released because EA has often changed the schedule and suddenly made unplanned packs with short notice. Apparently EA studies the market all the time and is ready to make changes whenever they feel that this could be profitable. But if even EA’s top don’t know then Grant sure doesn’t know either. I agree though that he knows much more than he tells us because TS5 must have been in development in the same building and he surely knows how far the development of TS5 is now. He just wants to encourage us though and therefore mainly wants us to be exited about the remaining packs for TS4 for now.

Well all I can say is have fun waiting for your announcement. :)

"simgirl1010;c-16495701" wrote:

"Erpe;c-16495697" wrote:

"IceyJ;c-16495018" wrote:

"Erpe;c-16494147" wrote:

"IceyJ;c-16494076" wrote:

"Erpe;c-16494015" wrote:
@SimTrippy I know. But in EA’s terminology “soon” usually means about 8 months and “for years out” could just be some wish he said deliberately ignoring what he knows about TS5 because he isn’t allowed to talk about TS5 yet. If he could guarantee that TS4 still will get new packs at least until 2020 then why doesn’t he say so?

Yes, he knows that simmers always have wanted more and also about everything from TS2 and TS3. But instead everything has been simplified and there is no way that he suddenly can guarantee that it all will come anyway. He also has to encourage us to buy more though. So is this just what he attempts with loose promises that he knows he won’t fully be able to fulfill anyway?

So this is what being in denial looks like, lol. Grant literally said 'expansion' in the earlier tweet and has made it clear TS4 isn't going anywhere for years. Too proud to concede, huh? :D

Your guess is as good as mine. But Grant isn’t EA’s CEO or even on EA’s Board of Directors. So I don’t believe that EA’s top have told him that he can continue to just make EPs for TS4 at least 5 years more ;)

He may not be CEO, but as lead producer of EPs and the game in general, he surely knows how many years in advance they've planned out packs. So if they're planning packs for years out, they're obviously not ready to release TS5. Logic.

The logic isn’t that obvious to me.

A thing that I noted was that when TS3 was about to end then EA increased the number of yearly EPs from 2 to 3 and afair more other things were increased too in 2012-2013 and even after TS4 already had been announced. I wondered why? Sales numbers obviously still were high enough to make this profitable even though they must have become lower than they were in 2009-2011. So why did EA suddenly release more just before TS4 was about to be released anyway?

My guess is that the reason mainly was that each new basegame (and especially TS4) are targeted at new simmers and that EA knows that simmers who already own the old game will hesitate and often wait a couple of years before they maybe will buy the new game anyway. But then EA wants to give them a little more packs to buy until they switch to the new game. But those packs still sell best anyway if they are released before the new basegame is released. So if EA increases the number of yearly packs then this could actually be a signal that a new basegame soon will be released (and still mainly targeted at new simmers).

I am not sure that EA plans which packs to release even years before they are released because EA has often changed the schedule and suddenly made unplanned packs with short notice. Apparently EA studies the market all the time and is ready to make changes whenever they feel that this could be profitable. But if even EA’s top don’t know then Grant sure doesn’t know either. I agree though that he knows much more than he tells us because TS5 must have been in development in the same building and he surely knows how far the development of TS5 is now. He just wants to encourage us though and therefore mainly wants us to be exited about the remaining packs for TS4 for now.

Well all I can say is have fun waiting for your announcement. :)

Do you have an old hat that you can eat if the announcement comes anyway this summer? ;)