Eco Living is just Island Living and Tiny Living

That's strange, cos I own both island living and tiny living and neither of them has all the stuff that's coming in eco living :D

I thought island living's focal point was living in a tropical paradise with mermaids, and tiny living's focal point was on being able to fit stuff in a tiny house.

"elanorbreton;c-17497231" wrote:
That's strange, cos I own both island living and tiny living and neither of them has all the stuff that's coming in eco living :D

I thought island living's focal point was living in a tropical paradise with mermaids, and tiny living's focal point was on being able to fit stuff in a tiny house.

It’s pretty clear that all three packs could have been combined into one. The conservationist career/cleaning up Sulani were a big part of IL and tiny houses are known to be eco-friendly.

They probably could have combined elements from all three into one pack but a lot of things would then end up being missing.

I am happy to have got all the features we have from the previous two packs and looking forward to finding out more about all of the eco living features.

Of course, they are not going to be able to please all of the people all of the time, maybe the next pack will be something you will enjoy more?

In an ideal world all the packs with overlapping themes would have been combined and we would have been able to buy everything for 150 bucks or so. But unfortunately there are budgets for each pack and the content is limited by that. And yes, technically it's a "cash grab" because that's what companies do, they want your cash. And big companies want/need to appease their shareholders, but it's also to develop new content, new games and to pay their employees. (And that's where peoples' paychecks come from, which other companies are already grabbing for as soon as it hits the bank accounts.) When you know everything about a pack and still think the content is not worth your hard-earned cash the best thing is not to buy it. That's why I don't own and will never own the MFP stuff pack. That does not mean players shouldn't voice their opinion! For example I have seen that some Simmers are trying to get a hashtag going on social media (I think it's #listentoyourcommunity), but my point is that the amount of content in each pack will always be limited by budgets. From what I know so far about this pack, I think it offers a decent amount of new content and ideas (producing beverages, crafting sellable items from trash, community spaces), but I will wait for more info to see whether it's worth full price, getting on sale or best to not buy at all.

Even if they could combine let's say tiny living and eco lifestyle. Island living is very different since it's focus is on living on an island and not being eco friendly. The conservationist career was just an add on to the pack.

This is Like Saying that City Living, Get Famous, Moschino Stuff, Tiny Living and Vintage Glamour Stuff should be in one pack because they all feature high and rich sims ifems even tho they are not the primary focus or the sole feature of the pack.

And really Tiny Living = Eco friendly? I don't understand the logic. In my country a lot of Tiny Houses are not Eco friendly and in fact some Contribute to pollution(Sadly), however the benifits in the game such as closer relationship exist. But still what is the conection?

If Island Living, Eco Lifestyle and Tiny Living was combined let's be real, Mermaids will not exist, Pollution wont affect all worlds, and tiny Houses would not have tiers. Since they will all fight for the fescources of the devs.

I don't think Island Living as a whole should have been merged with this pack, but if they already agreed on Eco Lifestyle back then by any chance (which they probably did since EPs usually take more than a year to make and IL was released in less than a year), they should have left the conservation career to EL cause well... It fits perfectly with the pack's theme, and added something else to IL instead that fits island life more (many suggest they should have made mermaids more fleshed out, would have been cool).

So I just think they should really plan these pack features more thoroughly so we don't get too many overlapping themes cause well... It does cause backlash.

You can't merge two EPs. It's ridiculous. The main problem with Island Living is that they couldn't work out how to add swimming into older worlds without breaking old saves, but apparently they're working on it.

They did say it does not require any packs to play Eco.

Not sure if the pollution machine (which worked also as a gardening thing prior?) and any of the items they refurbished, were in a pack? If so, they will be base game now because Eco doesn't require any packs (or does that mean they won't be using that then?)

Confused :s

After hearing about the conservationist career in Island Living I was quite excited about it until I learned the effects of the island being pristine would be permanent rather than happening again if our Sims didn't do anything to keep the eco system from reverting back to it's previous state. My understanding of the environmental changes in Eco Lifestyle is the world will stay clean only if our Sims continue to do the work that will keep the world from becoming polluted again. Same concept is in both packs, but the outcomes are quite different. Yes, it has taken three years to flesh out the concept of an eco lifestyle, and we have seen bits and pieces of it scattered across several packs and updates. Frankly, once Island Living was released, I assumed the teams were finished with the concept and would move on. But with Eco Lifestyle, the teams have added another layer to the gameplay that was introduced in IL, making it feel more real which gives Eco Lifestyle a lot more playability and options for the players. We will be able to choose how much or how little we want the worlds to change. This is especially interesting when the pollution can be added to all the worlds except Strangerville and the destination/vacation worlds. For the first time in the Sims franchise, our Sims and what they do, will have an impact on their entire world rather than only the environment inside their homes. When I bought IL I believed this would be how the conservationism would be handled, but it wasn't. And my disappointment in that pack ran deep. I was very vocal about that sad fact. But the information I am seeing now from the gurus seems to be pointing in the right direction, and is everything I had hoped to see in Island Living.