Gender in the Sims Series

I was one of those people who were annoyed at all the gender/sexuality updates. Not because I don’t think they are important. But because I rather they work on bug fixes and actual gameplay.

With that being said, I’m pleasantly surprised at how well it was done. And now that it’s finished and everyone has more choices for their Sims, I hope they can go back to big fixes and game play.

not on the poll so my vote is none of the above

The only potential issue with the current system is that genderfluids have a slightly more difficult time to adjust, so I'd opt in a change gender option in say an interaction cue or mirror or something. Maybe should just be a new emotional trait altogether that constantly shifts at intervals and changes how your Sims behaves.

The way gender identities are currently being handled in game is one that should suit almost everyone.
I’m not a fan of the ginormous pronoun UI, I would have placed it under the sim details tab where sexual orientation can also be found, but adding pronouns behind one’s name is trending IRL at the moment, so I can understand why the devs chose to place it where it currently is.
That’s OK, It doesn’t actually bother me (I just don’t really fancy it from a UI design POV) and I find myself using the pronoun customization tool more often than I thought I would. It’s great for both fantasy players like myself and people who’d rather prefer playing the game based on real life.
It is also entirely optional so if one doesn’t want to use this tool, it can be disregarded (with the exception of the UI) and the game remains unchanged.

I’m aware that this feature is in ongoing development, but overall I’m pretty satisfied with how it works since there are options for almost every kind of player and that’s the way it should be. ??

I debated between this and other. One of the things I've wanted the game to do better is transgender sims. It's all well and good that we can for instance give a 'male' sim a female frame but we can't give her breasts without a mod. All we can really do is give her a more defined hourglass shape. She'll still have a male stance and the default male musculature. It does feminize her face, but until you officially switch her gender to female, things like hair and makeup in the female sort don't display properly. When that happens, you can choose the female options, but not all of them show up, and the ones that do, have a thumbnail that lacks detail and everything is displayed on a male head. Same thing with nails. You can't see what a particular lipstick shade or nail shape looks like before selecting it. Half of the female options don't show, and the thumbnail doesn't give you a good look at the nails, just a male hand with a tiny sliver of the nail. I don't feel like it's a cc creator issue since their item is available to use on that sim so the creator hasn't marked it as a female only item.

The sim in question may have been assigned male but she's transitioning and living as her true self and the game does a horrible job of depicting that journey. It does the full before and after well, but the journey in between is, diplomatically speaking, a complete mess. Also I agree gender identity should be a separate option, but all pronouns should be available to any sim. I don't feel like certain gender identities should be limited to certain pronouns.

I prefer the way it was originally before the Sims team messed everything up when they poorly added this feature with text that does not even make sense whatsoever such as Ray said.

"Ray_Trace;c-18187346" wrote:
I have my male Sim still being referred to as a "them" in some notifications and moodlets and I saw a grammar error with the hangnail moodlet from the high maintenance trait ({Sim Name's} Nails have rebelled against their!")

Why is his male Sim who does not use those pronouns being called a them and their why is the Sims team misgendering Sims?

"ChadSims2;c-18187353" wrote:
I prefer the way it was originally before the Sims team messed everything up when they poorly added this feature with text that does not even make sense whatsoever such as Ray said.

"Ray_Trace;c-18187346" wrote:
I have my male Sim still being referred to as a "them" in some notifications and moodlets and I saw a grammar error with the hangnail moodlet from the high maintenance trait ({Sim Name's} Nails have rebelled against their!")

Why is his male Sim who does not use those pronouns being called a them and their why is the Sims team misgendering Sims?

I believe the technical term is "Bug".

We have threads for all of these and more on Answers HQ.

I'd like to keep whatever it is we have now since it's the most flexible. Definitely wouldn't want gender removed as the third poll option suggests. I don't like labels but that's a case of no labels gone too far, once we get to a point where nothing is defined or named and we have to invent new words to speak about old things. ?
Yeah, now it's perfect to me.

It would probably take the most work, but I've actually thought a lot about the possibility of adding a gender neutral choice and how that would play out. This could be called the "Custom" gender; denoted by a ☄ comet symbol instead of ♂️ Mars or ♀️ Venus symbol.

Custom Sims can choose between masculine or feminine frames, choose to be allowed into areas locked to one sex or either of the two sexes (like bathrooms and gender doors), and choose any of their CAS gender settings.

Gendered animations like the "sexy pose" interaction could even be replaced with animations designed specifically for Custom Sims. These types of animations would either be undifferentiated and not draw from traditional gender archetypes, or Custom Sims could have their own gendered archetype and animations (which could be decided on by the LGBTIQ+ community).

I feel like I could improve upon this idea; please let me know what you all think.

I like it the way it is now. My only gripe is that (at least in my game) sims tend to get the they/them by default. I like to play rotationally, with premade sims, and it means going to CAS an assigning proper pronouns to every single sim I'm starting to play. It's nothing major, but I'd definitely like it if sims could still get default pronouns based on their frame. The option to change that is now there and... it is still more likely we will leave them than change them, right?

Also, the "get rid of binary completely" option... confuses me. I just... can't imagine how that would even work, so that's kind of a scary prospect.