To be honest farming pack wasn't on my wishlist, but when I saw the trailer I was pleasantly surprised of this expansion and now I'm sure that I will buy it. In my imagination I planned that I put some farmhouses, maybe rental lot and some community lots in HoB but not. This time our new world has only 12 lots in total and only 2 empty lots maybe. I'm tired of that. Again I need to decide what to build or destroy premade houses which I generally want to leave in my savefiles. I totally can not understand why can't we receive bigger lots especially that we have closed neighborgoods and lots. What is more, we can have only 20 sims per loading screen. Currently we have 37 empty lots in total (with Newcrest)and with a new expansion, we will have 39 empty lots per save in total. It is really, really small number especially if you have one or two free lots per map. EA really destroys my fun because of that every time, because I have to choose what is more important for me, which family should I put into the map ect. I totally don't see any adventages of loading screens then.

......https://twitter.com/SimGuruRomeo/status/1403074148537028608

I'm not really surprised by the size of the world. I would have preferred a world in the size of windenburg but I don't think that will be happening again. As long as the neighbourhoods have 4 or 5 lots per neighbourhood, I am OK with it.

Only 12 lots? I’m surprised by that. For an expansion the minimum should be at least 15. 3 neighbourhoods, each with five lots. Maybe one neighbourhood is empty to fill up yourself. I have to choose which houses to keep from each pack because I love to build, so it means a lot of houses have to go to free up the space. ??

I would have preferred more lots, but am okay with the size, especially since it is supposed to be a village. What’s more important to me is how vast the neighbourhood is to make it feel bigger. Is it like Windenburg, quite a lot of navigatable space between lots? They said there is a forrest for example.To me that’s more important! How open does it feel? Then again, I am not a builder, so that might be why

I think the world has too few lots. It would not have taken much for me to be satisfied just 2-3 more lots. I prefer neighborhoods to have 5 lots. I would have been okay with the 2 4-lot neighborhoods and the town center to have 6 lots.

Henford-on-Bagley is a new ridiculously small world again

SimmerGeorge
4 years ago
"Jennifer_;c-17910849" wrote:
When do you think we'll get more info on the world? Like a view of the map or the lots?

I bet the world map is gonna leak so the Game Changers can cover it in their videos and create hype.
Magdaleena96
Seasoned Newcomer
4 years ago
Eh. It sounds like it'll be about the same size as Evergreen Harbor. Mt. Komorebi is only a couple lots bigger. Pretty sure this world size has kind of become a standard at this point. Would be nice to have more lots, yes, but personally I don't mind it.
sparky1922
4 years ago
"ironknight35;c-17908773" wrote:
"ncisGibbs02;c-17908621" wrote:
"ironknight35;c-17908611" wrote:
Was hoping it would be bigger. They probably made it small for the people that play on toasters. People really need to get a new PC or upgrade them if they want to play PC games. I used to play on a very low-end PC, but I recently bought a high-end one to be able to play without lagging.

Sometimes it’s the cost of computers and it takes time to save. I’m saving up for a new computer.
More power = more Sims! ????

I hope you get it soon! It really is a huge difference playing on a good PC. My comment was probably a bit too harsh, but I just feel like they could do more if they didn't keep low-end PCs in mind. It just feels like it's holding the game back.

I completely agree with this as why should I suffer because I am prepared to pay out for a performance PC? Do other game companies downgrade the game just because players can't or won't upgrade their PC's? I only ask because I don't understand how game companies work in general around this area?
SimmerGeorge
4 years ago
But at the same time, if they deliberately want to give us smaller worlds in order to prevent performance issues then why not give us more features? Or decrease the price tag?
elliebreton
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
I really don't understand what lot quantity has got to do with performance, could anyone kindly explain?

Doesn't the game only load one lot at a time? So couldn't we have like 500 lots in a world and it wouldn't make a difference cos you're still only loading one at a time?
Simtanium
4 years ago
@elanorbreton I think it has to do with the capacity of Sims per save. So theoretically if there are 100 lots in total, each lot could be home to 8 Sims, so that would be 800 Sims plus the townies it generates. And having that many Sims would reduce performance.
filipomel
New Spectator
4 years ago
"elelunicy;c-17909585" wrote:
"filipomel;c-17909287" wrote:
This wouldn't be such a bother if we had the ability to at least duplicate worlds. If a modder can do it so can the developers.

Lol that’s exactly why they want to keep the worlds small. They don’t want you to have too many lots in a single save as it can cause performance issues.

What doesn’t matter: the number of lots in a single world.
What does matter: the number of lots across all worlds in a save file.

Worlds are merely an illusion in TS4. You can create a brand new 2D map view with 3 neighborhoods from Willow Creek, 3 neighborhoods from Windenburg, and 3 neighborhoods from San Myshuno, and then call this whole thing a single world & everything would work just fine. The game simply does not care whether a neighborhood is categorized as part of Sulani or part of Windenburg, as it is completely arbitrary. What the game does care is the total number of lots across all worlds, as it will affect performance. Your loading time for example will significantly worsen as there are more lots & more Sims in your save file.

I as the player should be able to make that decision for myself. If I want to add more lots into my save file at the expense of performance, by duplicating worlds in a single save for example, the game can prompt me with a message saying "this could lead to the game being less stable blah blah etc." but that would be my choice to make, so if the game slows down that's a result of my decisions, not the developers. And besides, The Sims 4 has an abundance of features where if over used will slow the game down, Sims 4 is no stranger to player created instability with the available set of features, why stop now?
SimmerGeorge
4 years ago
"filipomel;c-17910981" wrote:
"elelunicy;c-17909585" wrote:
"filipomel;c-17909287" wrote:
This wouldn't be such a bother if we had the ability to at least duplicate worlds. If a modder can do it so can the developers.

Lol that’s exactly why they want to keep the worlds small. They don’t want you to have too many lots in a single save as it can cause performance issues.

What doesn’t matter: the number of lots in a single world.
What does matter: the number of lots across all worlds in a save file.

Worlds are merely an illusion in TS4. You can create a brand new 2D map view with 3 neighborhoods from Willow Creek, 3 neighborhoods from Windenburg, and 3 neighborhoods from San Myshuno, and then call this whole thing a single world & everything would work just fine. The game simply does not care whether a neighborhood is categorized as part of Sulani or part of Windenburg, as it is completely arbitrary. What the game does care is the total number of lots across all worlds, as it will affect performance. Your loading time for example will significantly worsen as there are more lots & more Sims in your save file.

I as the player should be able to make that decision for myself. If I want to add more lots into my save file at the expense of performance, by duplicating worlds in a single save for example, the game can prompt me with a message saying "this could lead to the game being less stable blah blah etc." but that would be my choice to make

@filipomel This is exactly why a Create-a-World or place lots feature is needed. In the Sims 3 I deliberately played smaller worlds because I had some performance issues and people who had monster PCs could go online and download these massive worlds (or make them themselves) so the experience was much more customizable when it came to both performance and gameplay.
elliebreton
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
"Simtanium;c-17910974" wrote:
@elanorbreton I think it has to do with the capacity of Sims per save. So theoretically if there are 100 lots in total, each lot could be home to 8 Sims, so that would be 800 Sims plus the townies it generates. And having that many Sims would reduce performance.

Thank you, but I still don't understand it lol. The game is not loading 800 sims at a time, only the sims in the lot you are playing and the ones who appear as walk-bys etc.
Feestbloempje
4 years ago
The performance issue is moot. Back in the time of Get Together and City Living, they would release one EP a year. These days, they're releasing two EP's a year, but the worlds are half the size. Basically, they're chopping the EP's in half and still charging the same money for it. Performance-wise, it doesn't matter if we get one EP with six neighborhoods and 26 lots, or two with three hoods and 13 lots. The only difference is that they can charge $80 for it instead of $40.