How do you feel about the sims 4 as of now? Are you still enjoying your game ?, what's your good points and bad points of the game ? And what do you want for it's future ? What type of pack would you want to come ?

I'm currently undecided. For me it's usually easy to get interested in my sims and figure out things for them to do. I loved werewolves and played a lot after it, but then took a sort of break, have only played a little. I expect to get back into it at some point though. I play without mods, other than map replacements that I got recently. So overall I've been quite happy with it, but the wants and fears left me wanting for more. I would like them to at least have wants for pack traits, that's a minimum requirement. When it comes to new packs, I'm forever hoping for horses.

I do enjoy my game very much. However, I've noticed that recent updates seem to turn it into a game that decides things for us, instead of letting us decide for ourselves. I don't need the game to surprise me. I'm more into a sandbox game where *I* decide personalities and events, without the game trying to throw in too many "challenges".Examples might be "NPC (who you actually never met) is doing push ups in your hood while being in a bad mood, should she dislike exercising?". Wants/fears seem to put too many sims into the same formula, I've not patched yet but I'll hate to see all my sims wanting to listen to the stereo as I actually chose playing with music *off* years ago. Result will be that none of my sims will like any music style at all. Neighborhood stories can mostly be turned off, but it is utterly annoying whenever a sim calls to ask whether they should try for a baby or not = too stupid for words. Some of those new features can be toggled off, but not all. It's basically those that can not be toggled off that makes me worry that I won't enjoy my game as much.

"Simmerville;c-18164902" wrote:Examples might be "NPC (who you actually never met) is doing push ups in your hood while being in a bad mood, should she dislike exercising?". This one was a bug that was fixed a couple of months after it started happening @Simmerville You can fix it by updating your game unless there is something else going on.

Since I refuse to update my game until they fix all the bugs they just shipped out, the state of the Sims 4 for me is great! I just got the Lunar Phase update and am very pleased playing with my occult save~ However, the state of the Sims 4's most recent update should never have happened. Only teens should be obsessed with phones, not everyone, siblings shouldn't be attracted to each other, the age glitch should not have been released, that should have been fixed in testing b4 the pack dropped, etc. :| My Wedding Stories was a disaster, but at least all of that pack's mess is confined to the pack itself. This should never have happened to an Expansion Pack. And for me it sucks because the stuff in High School Years and the base game update that came with it is all stuff I want, but I'm not willing to break my legacy to get it. For the future I'd really love to see an expansion focused on Children, Toddlers, and Babies (with a free base game baby overhaul). We finally got an EP with only teen content, so I'd really love to see an EP for just the younger lifestages and absolutely nothing for YA and older in it. Nothing but toys, treehouses, activities, etc. NEW stuff instead of just reskinning the base game activity tables. Parenthood is nice but it's mostly just content for the parents and how they raise their children. There's only 2 or 3 new toys for the kids themselves. We need content that's just for the small beans only. And the CAS in that pack should be only for children and younger as well, I don't want a single adult CAS item in a pack like that. :# I'm also still waiting on all the occults we've had in previous Sims games to be released. We're still missing Fairies, Genies, Zombies, Mummies, Imaginary Friends, REAL PlantSims (the temporary buff is not enough, I need the whole occult life state), Baby Dragons, and Unicorns (and horses). We also still need a revamp for mermaids (they don't even have their own urn/tomb and bassinet when all other occults do) and aliens could use a revamp too, they have such small content.

IDK. Has the latest patch update: finally fixed the aging and incest bugs? now letting my TS4 sim toddlers safely change their clothes in CAS without existing as an elder? now permitting the ability to play a 2 sim week semester at Uni? Or change the seasonal length to whatever number sim weeks you were able to? now safely allow adjustment of the sim lifespan global menu setting --- without the game turning all my hoods into sim ghost town families? allowing Neighborhood stories to work normally once again? stopped sim obsession with their phones--especially if they're werewolves in berserker mode, or some other occult sim life state??Basically has the game been restored to its semi working state of glory aka before the Jul 28 HSY base game patch -- which serial killed joy my entire desire to play this game?No on 1? #DealBreakerConfirmed. Forget the rest of the list. And especially buying that eye gouging HSY EP off SteamIMO NO utility mods will ever properly fix anything in the game until the chronic issues in #1 are resolved.

How are you feeling about the sims 4 and its current state ?

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mikamakimon
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
I admit I took a little break from the game. I intended to start again a short while back, but after reading about how broken the game is currently, I'm afraid to start up my game, which I unwisely updated. What's this about overuse use of phones, as if we already do not have enough to deal with sims and their obsessions with certain objects. Why was this not limited to the new pack, and limited to teens only? What about a patch that moderates all these obsessions? Though I haven't seen wants and fears for myself, I worry it will just be another thing I'd want to keep turned off, the way I already had for lifestyles. Features that presume to tell me who my sims should be, but ultimately it just leads to my sims having to deal with more negative moodlets. It seems to be a recurrent issue that new features, which should be enhancing the game, become a hindrance and an annoyance instead. I really hope every new thing that is added now come with the ability to toggle off. So far I've managed to play with autonomy on and without mods. But if I keep getting bombarded with unwanted changes, I might just have to.
Metior_Ice
Hero
3 years ago
@flauschtrud I sympathize. I play a game on my Laptop called Stellaris. I can’t play that game without mods, and I’ve been there with an unplayable game when it gets updated. I know what it feels like to have broken mods in a game you love.

However,

I will say that there are mods for merfolk in the Sims 4 that I would absolutely use, but I also know that it’s not possible for me to use any mods in the sims.

I do not play the sims on the pc. I play it on the PlayStation 4.

In spite of all the chaos on the forums, my game never bugged after this update. It started bugging after they patched the update.

I think it’s great you create mods, and I understand the desire to create quality works. However, I don’t think it’s wrong for EA to make available to Console Players things that are exclusive to people who mod their game.

I think EA does care about quality, and I think this update did not have as many bugs as it appears in the forums.

Again, I play on the console and can’t use mods even if I want to. I did not have my sims experience the auto-aging bug. I haven’t had incest wants. I had a very good initial experience with the update.

The only inappropriate romances I’ve had came from my inability to change the relationships between existing sims after forgetting to set those relationships up when I started a new save. Not because of an update that came from EA…

But, romance between certain family members on a family tree has always been possible. The game doesn’t recognize cousins once removed and great-grand parents as family. Even if I can easily trace their lineage and confirm that they are closely related, I can have certain cousins perform romance interactions with each other.

This problem starts once you reach the 3rd generation. I’ll have to share a family tree later for clarity.

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The bugs I’ve encountered so far after the patch include extreme Lag and getting sent to the Main Menu when I save the game.

My current main save has lasted the longest so far. I’ve had it survive more updates than players that use mods.

Again, I play a different game that is heavily reliant on mods. It will probably take a little while for mods to get updated, but that’s just the harsh reality of using mods… You have to wait for mod updates too.
Metior_Ice
Hero
3 years ago
The one thing I genuinely hate about this game is neither a bug nor comes from missing content…

It’s a feature that came with ghosts. I hate the Hysterical Moodlet… I take good care of my sims, and they are always so happy that a funny story can kill them… :D I wish their was a rewards trait that gave my sims more control over their playful emotions…

Honestly, the ability to sleep in water has saved the lives of my merfolk more times than I can count.
Melisendre
Seasoned Veteran
3 years ago
I play since Sims 2 and have bought every pack. Since COL I haven't spend any money on the Sims. It not that I wouldn't like to have new content in my game but nothing was worth the price.
My current state is that I'm bored of the game. I want to play but I have no ideas what to play. I need new input but I'm not so desperate that I spend more money than a pack is worth.
I don't like what they made with the game: These annoying phone calls and popups, rabbitholes instead of gameplay, not fixing bugs, adding new features with no cross pack compability, kits and even more.
logionX
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
The Sims 4 is starting to become a bit more difficult to enjoy.

I have been used to mods breaking down and bugs causing problems before, I have played the game since 2014 but this recent month have been...rough. And on top of that we had the drama regarding mods and early access.

When it comes to the game itself I'm running out of stuff to do, I will probably keep playing it because there is no competition and I find the game relaxing... but keeping up with mods and fighting with bugs is making it less relaxing.

So I don't think the game is in a great state right now.
EvilBnuuy
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
Putting under a spoiler tag, only for neatness's sake since it's a bit long (as usual.)

Spoiler
I'm normally the one with the positive attitude towards TS4, but lately not so much. The situation going on with mods, perma-paywalling, harassment, and the new vague and easily-abused Early Access ruling had me so furious that I nearly left the community because of it. I realise now that it's no good if I leave the community over that- I just have to make sure to be a positive member of the community, try to speak out about toxicity where I can, and not support awful creators. If I can spread some kind of joy talking about my game and creations with people here then I should. I feel like de-monetisation of mods would have been the start of a potential solution to the problem, then EA backtracked. For that I am reluctant to buy any more content for a while regardless of how much I want it.

As for the state with bugs and such, it's been MUCH more noticeable as I've switched to PC play. I used to never dread Patch Day on my Xbox :D Part of me feels like it's just a normal part of modern gaming nowadays and I wish it wasn't. Thanks to patches being easy to download mostly nowadays and the mad crunch-time generally put on game devs in big companies now, it means a lot of games or expansions get released more or less unfinished and it's not great for players, devs, and eventually not for the big companies either because people lose faith and stop giving them money.

I'm mainly a builder and storyteller in TS4 now, but I have been asking myself lately...is it just because I like storytelling more? Or is it because I got bored of gameplay that I have more fun with storytelling and building? I wonder if it's the latter. So many new mechanics got added in High School Years and I still had little interest in the pack itself. At one point I wanted more mechanics to aid in meaningful in-game relationships and such (and I wanted some things back from older games in the series), but now some of that is happening it still doesn't make me want to get back into gameplay.

Melisendre's point about cross-pack compatibility is an important one actually. I would have liked more of that especially with the Werewolves pack, though we did get a bit I guess, and I'd like more of it going forward. The way I feel at the moment generally, is I would rather have the current game polished up a bit rather than a bunch of new content (though I did enjoy Werewolves and finally getting more occult stuff). The Spa Day pack refresh was great, and I remember quite a lot of us were pretty excited about it. I think starting from the older packs, I'd rather have pack refreshes and bug fixes be the focal point.
barisaxy
New Ace
3 years ago
It has never been a great game and it never will be. It's stifled by a bad base, but also the direction the team has taken it. I hate that they got me by making Seasons an actual good pack (customizable holidays and actually working hard on winter aesthetically beyond snow and the trees. I'm a sucker for that, just like I would be for a playable wind instrument, as winter aesthetic is my favorite IRL). I wish I could take that, and some other features (sexual orientation, gender identity being two right off the top of my head) and put them in a better The Sims game. lol.
LiELF
Legend
3 years ago
"mrs_starkey;c-18165332" wrote:
"LiELF;c-18165217" wrote:
I'm kind of devastated, actually. I have not updated the last patch, which had things I specifically asked for, because suddenly the devs decided that Sims needed to use their phones more obsessively. This will completely nuke my enjoyment of the game. I hated the phone use before and it literally had me on the edge of my patience as it was, but this bomb that was dropped has done it in for me and I'm really upset about it. I've wanted a way to turn phones off for almost 8 years now. I hate it in real life and I hate it in my game.

Like many people, I play The Sims to escape real life. I like to create my own weird world, full of Occults and Gods and strange people and a mix of eras and timelines. I rarely use any of the tech gameplay, and computers are usually locked up, only put in game for brief use or not used at all. But I could never do that with phones because the game wasn't designed with options for it. It was always a race to cancel a phone action before a Sim could gain a new phone-related skill and it was frustrating. But I dealt with it because I love the Occults so much and they have been my favorite of any of the Sims series. But all these years later, after getting so much awesome content that I love, after just dropping Werewolves that I was ridiculously excited for and only got to play twice, the game has become something I don't want to play. I just don't want phone tech like that. I don't care how trivial that might sound to some people, it absolutely bothers me. Even if limited to teens, it would bother me, I love playing teens. And I haven't use mods in years because I barely have time to play my game as it is, I don't have time to take them out and update every single month. Plus, mods can be unreliable.

So my game just sits there, not updated, and I don't even know if I want to play offline because the Gallery is one of my favorite things. I can't build very well and I usually browse for the awesome builds other people make, to put in my game. At this point, I'm just trying to decide if I'm done for good or not. Sims 4 has finally chosen its path and its players and that's just not me.

I play so often offline because I often skip a patch or two, and I can totally use the gallery. :)

You start your game offline. Then go into the gallery. By default you are disconnected to the gallery because you are playing offline. So you have to click on the gallery, then a popup will come up asking if you want to connect with the gallery. All you have to do is connect. I always have to cancel the first try and connect again because the first try never works for me. (Don't be afraid, because the game won't patch automatically ingame, if you connect to the gallery. In order to patch you have to exit the game and press "update".)

After connecting you can normally browse the gallery and download everything you want. The only exception is, you can't download anything that was put on the gallery with a patch you don't have, so basically the newest things.

But everything until then works perfectly fine. :)

@mrs_starkey Thank you for this advice, it's really good to know, I really appreciate it. <3

I'm just trying to figure out how I can disable auto updates from the website without opening the Origin app.
kinsaray
New Ace
3 years ago
I have given this game so many chances and actually have been enjoying it for a while until the Wedding Stories disaster and suddenly it's been an accelerated decline. Expect more update/pack disasters because EA can only throw so much at it (also why I believe there will never be freed babies or cars, either would definitely render the game inoperable!

I have not updated yet; can't get a straight answer from anybody as to whether their game has improved with the update or if the coast is clear.
Despite the glitches already there at least my game is playable. Also, Sims 4 is also the largest program on my pc, not counting the mods folder so I'm thisclose to chucking the whole thing.
Jade47UK
3 years ago
I'm feeling very frustrated with the way the recent updates seem to break far more than they fix. From what I've read I gather this is the usual story with updates and believe me I'll be very reluctant to update in the future. While I greatly appreciate mod makers work, I shouldn't have to go looking for a bunch of mod fixes for things the devs have badly implemented or broken, or have decided they never want to fix. Theres also no guarantee a modder will continue to update their work. By rights the devs should be fixing these things themselves rather than focusing on the next new flash in the pan random idea that never gets fully developed but still gets hyped to death as content.

Also I get the indication the devs want us to play the game how they want which is why we get all these annoying ingame messages, why we have the new constant phone obsession animation, why they're so keen for us to engage with ingame social media. I play this game to get away from that kind of thing and I just want to play the game, not be notified of everything going on like I'm a child that might lose interest if I'm not spammed with new messages every two minutes.

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