I don't want Seasons. Please explain to me why YOU want them.

A completely unchanging environment is extremely boring to me. Especially if it looks summer-ish, because summer is my least favorite season. I hate feeling all hot and sweaty. Lol. I don't hate winter even though I get seasonal depression. At least at first, I enjoy seeing snow, after its long absence. Lol. But my favorite seasons are spring and autumn.

Above all, I basically think that seasons are necessary in a life simulation game. Just because I dislike a certain season doesn't mean it should be left out, despite being a very basic aspect of real life (to varying degrees, depending on your location). I find that train of thought puzzling. There should be some settings to control it, so people can set it to whatever seasons/weather they want. Basically, it comes down to the ability to choose, and control your own game however much you want....In a game like this, it's very important to have options. I mean, that's sort of the whole point, I think... That's why I find it pointless to say "I don't want __", because everyone should be able to play how they like. (Basic weather and season do seem to me like something that should be in the base game, but yeah....)

I feel like weather doesn't necessarily make the world more immersive in a video game. It's just there in the background. I don't really see the point of making an entire EP out of something that's so...empty. A few sim days, you see rain and you're like "oh, well. It's raining again. Time to send my sim to work like I do every day". Does the rain change anything about your daily routine? No, your sim just whips out an umbrella from their pocket. Like I said, I just don't see the point at all. Weather should come with the base game.

I've gone through this thread and I still can't exactly grasp what's the appeal, thought maybe people will explain in more detail but everyone's saying pretty much the same. I don't buy the argument about progression of time. If a season is set up to be 5 days, how much am I actually able to progress my sims' story? 5 days isn't a lot of gameplay. Time seems to be passing, but my sims' life stays exactly the same. What's really indicative of the time passing in game, in my opinion at least, are the milestones like pregnancies, promotions, etc. I use mods so my sims can have graduation ceremonies and baby showers, I always try to throw nice and realistic birthday parties. I don't need leaves to fall off of the trees to feel like a year has passed. There are places in the world where it's eternal summer and yet people don't feel like they're stuck in one place in their lives because the grass is always green.

The only appealing thing about Seasons is the activities that come with it, but I feel like in TS4 we can't really count on abundance of them. That's not how they roll with this iteration. We'll get something very boring and scripted probably, I'm sure we can forget about such complex and creative stuff as (for example) ice skating rinks we know from TS3.

I'd be completely content with a Seasons game pack. I want devs to save up this one EP slot for a new, fresh idea instead of something as empty and meaningless as some occasional rain.

I use seasons as a measurement of passing time. I play with ageing off as I like to gradually age my Sims and use the seasons. In sims 3 Id go through all 4 seasons , 1 year, and then age up babys and kittens/puppys. After 4 years Id age up toddlers to kids and so on and so on. So for my play style seasons are an important gauge.
That and I'm really fed up of no rain and the world being the same old same old..."Oh look another perfect beautiful day"

I always hated Seasons in Sims 2.

You own a tree? It gets on fire
You stand outside? Heatstroke, lighting bolt, or you freeze to death
Your houses? Any pre Seasons house roofs don't work properly
You're in a hot tub? Your sim catches on fire
Your child is outside during snow? Social worker takes them away

I hope the fact Sims 4 doesn't have much danger to it will carry on to its version of Seasons. I had Sims die literally within 5 minutes of booting up the game because of the seasons. No matter what season you had, death was literally in every corner.

"peach1red;c-16439130" wrote:

"Huiiie_07;c-16429991" wrote:

"princess_kaguya;c-16429968" wrote:

"Mgalb;c-16429943" wrote:
Personally I want seasons because I get tired of the same setting all the time

i feel the same, but i think this should be included in the base game, not an expansion pack.
there's a lot of interesting subjects and i dont think seasons is one of them, i prefer new things and new experiences so... yea. i would rather have a magic themed expansion pack than seasons.

Seasons in the base game would definitely be a step in the right direction. The same with pets, so devs can concentrate more on actually interesting and new things instead of the same things all over again, because they "have to be there". Well, if they're so important, just put them in the base game. But I guess they know that these packs make lots of money, and they wouldn't want to miss out on that.

My brother believes that if it's in the previous game it should be in the base game.

I don't think that you can put in all the weather, festivals and other features in the base game unless you want to pay $150 for it. I wouldn't mind seeing basic weather (rain, light breezes) in a base game, then Seasons could add snow, the seasonal calendar and other features, maybe even some natural disasters like heavy winds that "blow away" outdoor furniture and decor, or lightning storms that cause roof and tree fires unless you have a lightning rod.

We paid about $60 or $70 for Sims 4, what's $30 or $40 more? ;) :p
ETA: @stilljustme2, I thought it said $100. Even I wouldn't pay $150 for a Sims game :D

"Dannydanbo;c-16447516" wrote:

"peach1red;c-16445164" wrote:

"Dannydanbo;c-16445142" wrote:

"cashew11;c-16445134" wrote:
I want more than just summer. but above all that id like to see a different town introduced with it, you would think brindleton bay would be the ideal town for Seasons, but it came with Cats and Dogs, so I'm just interested to see whats coming with it.
Im more excited about content and gameplay, TS3 seasons came with sun baking and beach style activities, I would like to see a beach world introduce and FINALLY swimmable oceans!

Seasons will not come with a new world. It's too expansive and large. S3 didn't come with a new world so I don't expect one with S4 Seasons.

The Sims 2 Seasons came with RiverBlossom Hills.

@cashew11

Really it depends on what they choose to add with the pack. If it's just weather and it's effects, they just might add a world, if it's more than that then there is a possibility of no. The Sims 4 isn't made quite like the Sims 3, so it's pretty unlikely that we'll actually get ocean swimming. But if they do make a world then they may make a little spot where they can swim or something that kind of resembles an ocean. (Though if they did that then I would want snorkeling and that may be a bit much.) I still wouldn't hold my breath on it, but it's more likely then full ocean swimming I guess.

The difference between S2 and S3 as a game is vast. Yes, S2 had seasons but nothing like the seasons we got in S3. While I agree that S4 is more compact than S3, they have given us packs as full as possible but in a different way. Vampires is the best example of that. I think we will get Seasons with as many bells and whistles as they can offer but without a world taking up valuable space in the pack.

I would prefer a beach vacation world with ocean swimming. That would include snorkeling, scuba diving and maybe walking and exploring the ocean floor wearing a diving bell. I also would like all the beach options including sand castle building (small ones for kids/adults but also big, giant ones that people do for art), using a metal detector to "hunt" for treasure, beach volleyball, shell collecting and ocean fishing for big fish like sail fish that can be mounted on our walls as in real life. This could be done with a boat on a pier you click (like in BB) and your sim teleports to a boat out in the ocean to fish from a chair that they are strapped into. This could signal the return of the Kraken. I would also like to see mermaids return in some kind of adventure in reef exploration. I also would like the surf board item back with the shark. Sims could rent huts over the water to stay in and eat at luaus with fire dancing for entertainment (a learnable skill). A Hawaiian theme or Tahitian theme (any Island paradise would work). An exploding volcano that randomly cuts your vacation short could be a fun feature. There should be an Aquarium lot similar to the Georgia Aquarium, Aquarium of the Pacific or the Newport Aquarium or any large, public aquarium with all kinds of exhibits and shows and it should be interactive, like swimming with dolphins, wading in shallow water with fishes tickling your feet and maybe an alligator show.

Sorry for being off topic with this last part but the creativity started rolling downhill.......

Honestly, they could very well just make it a 20 dollar gamepack if they just focus on the Seasons. I really think I wouldn't complain too much as long as Sims also got the effects of the weather. (For example sunburn and tanning)

"stilljustme2;c-16458355" wrote:

"peach1red;c-16439130" wrote:

"Huiiie_07;c-16429991" wrote:

"princess_kaguya;c-16429968" wrote:

"Mgalb;c-16429943" wrote:
Personally I want seasons because I get tired of the same setting all the time

i feel the same, but i think this should be included in the base game, not an expansion pack.
there's a lot of interesting subjects and i dont think seasons is one of them, i prefer new things and new experiences so... yea. i would rather have a magic themed expansion pack than seasons.

Seasons in the base game would definitely be a step in the right direction. The same with pets, so devs can concentrate more on actually interesting and new things instead of the same things all over again, because they "have to be there". Well, if they're so important, just put them in the base game. But I guess they know that these packs make lots of money, and they wouldn't want to miss out on that.

My brother believes that if it's in the previous game it should be in the base game.

I don't think that you can put in all the weather, festivals and other features in the base game unless you want to pay $150 for it. I wouldn't mind seeing basic weather (rain, light breezes) in a base game, then Seasons could add snow, the seasonal calendar and other features, maybe even some natural disasters like heavy winds that "blow away" outdoor furniture and decor, or lightning storms that cause roof and tree fires unless you have a lightning rod.

Basic weather, some natural disasters, storms and lightning could easily be in the basegame just like such things are in other games. That wouldn’t raise the price at all. But it is about marketing and the kind of game that EA wants to make. TS4 was mainly made as a happy game for preteens and young teens as the main target group. Therefore EA saw those things as unimportant and omitted them. Instead EA used most of the budget on experiemts with mulititasking and likely also on testing the options for online play. Beside that EA wanted to make more clothes, hair, furniture and so on for the game because young girls are supposed to be more interested in such things than in bad weather and disasters.