4 years ago

I love the new "likes & dislikes" system, but...

https://assets.change.org/photos/9/vt/kp/hsvtkpUKzRLBOMN-800x450-noPad.jpg?1622067367
As a community, we need to be organized and precise if we wan't something. I loved the sentiments, I'm loving the idea of the likes & dislikes, but no matter the subject... if they add proper memories, or gossip, or attraction... Its always going to be overpowered by the emotions system. Its a waste of time for us to be askign for all of thsoe things when the base of it all isn't working as intended. And yes, they can say its not broken and doesn't need fixing, but I DOUBT they intended this system to work like this and obstructing everything else that is added to the game.
I haven't seen any influencers, cc creator or simmer takign the charge and leading us to the change, and I don't know if I have the ability or knowledge to make it work, but I'm the one that decided I won't be heard anymore. If you want to be heard, join me in this petition and lets make this game change for good.
In less than a year lilsimsie influenced them to add names to cowplants, the same happened to plumbella and Bonehilda. As much as I love those things, you're not seeing the power you have to make this game good. In less than six months the black lives matter movement forced the sims team to hear a major complaint from the black simmer community and fixed the skin tones, and thats what I'm talking about. I don't want emotions to be fixed next year or 2 years from now, I wan't it NOW and i NEED it now before I give up on this game AGAIN and go on hiatus again. I never had those "phases" in SIms 2 and 3 and I think the emotions system overpowering everything is the reason why.
Here is a petition I created: http://chng.it/yyyynVhPPf
And I also want to start a hashtag #FixEmotionsEqualsFixingSims4
And for our voices to be heard worldwide I invite you to translate the petition, but share the link of the og one so that the numbers stay organized in one place only.
I hope we can work together to improve our beloved Sims.

Edit.: LilSimsie, Plumbella, English Simmer, PleasantSims, James Turner, Iron Seagull, Springsims and every other amazing streamers and videomakers aroudn this big world to join me and make a video about it. It needs to be discussed as fast as possible. If you can showcase the issue with examples of how the emotions can be op in the game and present solutions it would be great.

guilhermesvf
4 years ago
Sorry I "tagged" PleasantSims, but then I noticed she already had posted a video-criticism talking about the emotions overpowering the new system. You can watch it here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fk8ru_Tkgvw
TS1299
4 years ago
Emotions are a big problem in The Sims 4. That is why Meaningful Stories Mod are essential in the game. Now if Maxis will improve the game I would love them to take some features from that mod for example if a sim has a happy buff then suddenly got tense because of a certain action, The Happy Buff should fade away rather than overpower the negative emotions.

They really need to fix this. Also more negative buffs. I mean everytime a pack comes out we got like A maltitude Happy Buffs but not so much in negative buff aside from uncomfortable. I can't even remember if the latest packs have Angry or Sad Buffs because it is very rare.

They need more negative buffs in the game
SimmerGeorge
4 years ago
"Forgeron;d-990200" wrote:

I haven't seen any influencers, cc creator or simmer takign the charge and leading us to the change, and I don't know if I have the ability or knowledge to make it work, but I'm the one that decided I won't be heard anymore.

@Forgeron The CC creators (who know a lot about how the game works) are unfortunately not as big as GameChangers to be heard. And the Game Changers... well, we know they don't play the game enough to notice these things. They build 90% of the time so you know.
halolady1999
4 years ago
I agree with all this. It’s so frustrating how every negative moodlet seem to inevitably be overpowered by positive ones, making the sims happy all. The. Time, which is just plain unrealistic. It’s such a shame as I really enjoy the game otherwise (and the emotions system as a concept, too, just not in execution)

I really hope they make some kind of emotion overhaul in the future. Maybe balance it more by adding more negative moodlets, making them more powerful and cutting down on the positive moodlets a bit (especially the really insignificant ones like “good environment”, “good food” or whatever they’re called). It’ll also be great if sims didn’t switch emotions so abruptly like they’re on constant mood swings. These are the reasons why I can’t play without Meaningful Stories. I swear the balance it brings to the system singlehandedly fixed all my issues with it and the personalities in this game.
Sharooonia
New Spectator
4 years ago
The emotion system is completely broken and I honestly wish they would stop adding new features that are focused around it if they aren't going to fix it first. Their moods change to rapidly and some moodlets are far to powerful.

I use Meaningful Stories in my game which is a wonderful mod and helps a lot with the mood changing but sadly it doesn't fix the issue of some moodlets being over powered.

Another issue I have is them adding moodlets that are powerful and almost permanent such as the inspired buff from a clean house. I had to mod that out of my game because it was over powering every other emotion.
MarioBabyLuigi
4 years ago
"TS1299;c-17892780" wrote:
I can't even remember if the latest packs have Angry or Sad Buffs because it is very rare.

Bust the Dust did get "Order to Clean" as a mean interaction which gives the recipient Sim an angry or a sad buff depending on the relationship with the Sim but I don't think that's performed autonomously.
foxybilly
4 years ago
I don't really know the diference between buffs and moodiest but I control my sims and I dont want them going off upset or sad about something I haven't created so I dont really want any more emotions in the game.
Bookish_Sammy
4 years ago
The emotion system annoys me so bad. I was playing the Pancake household yesterday, and Eliza argued with Bob about his career. However, he was feeling confident from a previous action, and he was strutting around with full confidence despite being berated and criticized about his career. Skip ahead to later in my game play, Eliza tells Bob she wants a divorce and both proceed to sulk around for two days. It also made me angry that Eliza's moodlet said she was hurt by someone. No, sweetie, you're the one that asked for the divorce. You have no right to act like Bob hurt you, and she's the one who cheated on him with another townie. These things need to be fixed.

Anyway, I'm thrilled we have Likes and Dislikes. There will need to be another update on it to include other stuff for sure. My sim who has the knitting aspiration really needs knitting in her Likes.
bandit34
Seasoned Traveler
4 years ago
i have over 300 sims i need a mod that lets you random the likes and dislikes for all it be a long time too pick for that many sims
fjb792
4 years ago
I'm happy with the update. There are lots of Likes/ Dislikes to choose from, and you can choose up to 20 of them. And it does seem like they tried to have them make some difference to the sims' personality and actions.

But, I agree with you. Unless they fix the Emotion System, none of these new features matter.

Positive & Happy Emotions are too strong, and overtake everything. A well decorated house destroys any negative feelings a sim might have. An Inspired buff from a painting can overpower Sadness from a Breakup/ Divorce. Emotions are too easy to manipulate by environmental factors, like decor and certain activities. Angry emotions are too easily fixed by using Happy decor or from easy social interactions. Sims are too easy to control and shallow. Give them a luxurious house to live in, and they'll never be sad, angry or tense again. Overall, the Emotion System is shallow and badly programmed.

It's the same thing with Sentiments. I like Sentiments, they are a nice idea. But, again, the Emotion System gets in the way. Your sim might have a festering grudge from a fight, but as soon as you put an expensive painting in the room, they forget about it.

They can keep adding all the features they want to the game, but until they fix the Emotions System, the sims will still be as shallow as ever.