If something new is shown at EA Play regarding The Sims Franchise, what do you think it will be?

"Cheekybits;c-16396943" wrote:

"catloverplayer;c-16396759" wrote:

"Cheekybits;c-16354767" wrote:
Sims 4 has a long way to go here’s a article stating they still have a ton of content. http://www.pcgamesinsider.biz/interviews-and-opinion/66418/we-see-crunch-as-a-sign-of-failure-says-sims-4-lead-producer/

They even state the end of pets the start of the second wave. So I’d say another few years to go.

I remember Grant saying before TS4 was released that it would have 50 Packs. Now I'm starting to believe it.

Yep, we’re on pack 26 I believe. In that article Grant said we’re on the second wave so that would make sense. I’d say another 2 years of sims 4 content and sims 5 near end of 2020.

But Grant is only a producer too. So he doesn’t make the decisions. Managers do. Therefore I don’t overinterpretate statements from producers because they aren’t responsible for those things and therefore always says something vague when they are asked about things which they don’t know for sure.

The decisions are made by top managers instead and the reason why those managers don’t tell a lot of details about the future clearly is that they don’t make all the decisions before it is necessary. Many of their decisions they also change or adjust later. So they don’t tell us about their plans early and they usually don’t tell the devs about the plans either before the devs need to know. That way they don’t need to explain to everybody why they dropped a game, decided to suddenly make an unplanned game or changed the schedule or content for a game already in development.

So when producers only make vague statements it is usually because they don’t know more yet and only are guessing. But people study every detail in their statements anyway and analyze the statements as if the producers instead were the top managers who made all the plans and decisions. But they aren’t.

As an example we can ask the producers forever if there is a TS5 under development. They won’t answer. But if somebody in 2016 or 2017 instead had asked a top manager in EA if TS5 was under development then this top manager most likely would have confirmed it (a top manager did this when he got a similar question a few years ago and I think it was about TS3 in the TS2 days).

"Erpe;c-16397049" wrote:

"Cheekybits;c-16396943" wrote:

"catloverplayer;c-16396759" wrote:

"Cheekybits;c-16354767" wrote:
Sims 4 has a long way to go here’s a article stating they still have a ton of content. http://www.pcgamesinsider.biz/interviews-and-opinion/66418/we-see-crunch-as-a-sign-of-failure-says-sims-4-lead-producer/

They even state the end of pets the start of the second wave. So I’d say another few years to go.

I remember Grant saying before TS4 was released that it would have 50 Packs. Now I'm starting to believe it.

Yep, we’re on pack 26 I believe. In that article Grant said we’re on the second wave so that would make sense. I’d say another 2 years of sims 4 content and sims 5 near end of 2020.

But Grant is only a producer too. So he doesn’t make the decisions. Managers do. Therefore I don’t overinterpretate statements from producers because they aren’t responsible for those things and therefore always says something vague when they are asked about things which they don’t know for sure.

The decisions are made by top managers instead and the reason why those managers don’t tell a lot of details about the future clearly is that they don’t make all the decisions before it is necessary. Many of their decisions they also change or adjust later. So they don’t tell us about their plans early and they usually don’t tell the devs about the plans either before the devs need to know. That way they don’t need to explain to everybody why they dropped a game, decided to suddenly make an unplanned game or changed the schedule or content for a game already in development.

So when producers only make vague statements it is usually because they don’t know more yet and only are guessing. But people study every detail in their statements anyway and analyze the statements as if the producers instead were the top managers who made all the plans and decisions. But they aren’t.

As an example we can ask the producers forever if there is a TS5 under development. They won’t answer. But if somebody in 2016 or 2017 instead had asked a top manager in EA if TS5 was under development then this top manager most likely would have confirmed it (a top manager did this when he got a similar question a few years ago and I think it was about TS3 in the TS2 days).

They know they don’t tell because it breaks there contract. You can’t really let people know about any future content until an official statement. That’s how it normally works for a lot of things not just video games. They know for sure they don’t get to make the call on when it comes out but they have the most understanding as to what’s going on. At the same time they won’t all agree to mention all the time that hey sims 4 will have a longer life. They can’t openly tell people that unless they are told they can mention it. People overly examine what they say because anything that they do say is what they can say. It’s all planned years in advance of what is going on.

"Cheekybits;c-16397229" wrote:

"Erpe;c-16397049" wrote:

"Cheekybits;c-16396943" wrote:

"catloverplayer;c-16396759" wrote:

"Cheekybits;c-16354767" wrote:
Sims 4 has a long way to go here’s a article stating they still have a ton of content. http://www.pcgamesinsider.biz/interviews-and-opinion/66418/we-see-crunch-as-a-sign-of-failure-says-sims-4-lead-producer/

They even state the end of pets the start of the second wave. So I’d say another few years to go.

I remember Grant saying before TS4 was released that it would have 50 Packs. Now I'm starting to believe it.

Yep, we’re on pack 26 I believe. In that article Grant said we’re on the second wave so that would make sense. I’d say another 2 years of sims 4 content and sims 5 near end of 2020.

But Grant is only a producer too. So he doesn’t make the decisions. Managers do. Therefore I don’t overinterpretate statements from producers because they aren’t responsible for those things and therefore always says something vague when they are asked about things which they don’t know for sure.

The decisions are made by top managers instead and the reason why those managers don’t tell a lot of details about the future clearly is that they don’t make all the decisions before it is necessary. Many of their decisions they also change or adjust later. So they don’t tell us about their plans early and they usually don’t tell the devs about the plans either before the devs need to know. That way they don’t need to explain to everybody why they dropped a game, decided to suddenly make an unplanned game or changed the schedule or content for a game already in development.

So when producers only make vague statements it is usually because they don’t know more yet and only are guessing. But people study every detail in their statements anyway and analyze the statements as if the producers instead were the top managers who made all the plans and decisions. But they aren’t.

As an example we can ask the producers forever if there is a TS5 under development. They won’t answer. But if somebody in 2016 or 2017 instead had asked a top manager in EA if TS5 was under development then this top manager most likely would have confirmed it (a top manager did this when he got a similar question a few years ago and I think it was about TS3 in the TS2 days).

They know they don’t tell because it breaks there contract. You can’t really let people know about any future content until an official statement. That’s how it normally works for a lot of things not just video games. They know for sure they don’t get to make the call on when it comes out but they have the most understanding as to what’s going on.

I agree. The developers can’t tell because they all almost certainly have signed a contract which prohibits them from telling anything about unannounced games in development and even after they have left EA if that should happen.

But the top managers are different because they are the people who make the decisions. Therefore they are also the people who can decide when to tell a little more. Therefore such a manager a few years ago just confirmed that there was a new basegame under development when he was asked. He didn’t tell anything more about it though and the official announcement didn’t come until many months later.

At the same time they won’t all agree to mention all the time that hey sims 4 will have a longer life. They can’t openly tell people that unless they are told they can mention it. People overly examine what they say because anything that they do say is what they can say. It’s all planned years in advance of what is going on.

But the devs are still very careful not to say anything at all directly. Sure they can say that “we will continue to make packs for TS4 until it doesn’t make sense anymore” because this won’t ever be a lie. The statement can be interpreted in many ways. But really it only says “we haven’t made the last pack for TS4 yet and we will continue to make packs for TS4 until our top managers in EA tell us to stop”.

It isn’t a fault made by the developers that simmers use wishful thinking to imagine that the statements from the developers should mean much more than the developers intended those statements to mean. Also the developers aren’t allowed to correct this wishful thinking because they can’t do that without saying more than they know or are allowed to say.

"stilljustme2;c-16396180" wrote:

"JoAnne65;c-16392416" wrote:

"stilljustme2;c-16389434" wrote:

"FreezerBunnyCowplant;c-16348748" wrote:
If they reveal The Sims 5, it better has pools, toddlers, ghosts, a Color Wheel and more open worlds from the beginning or I'm going to be mad

I'd settle for open neighborhoods with loading screens going between neighborhoods/worlds. I don't want to go back to being stuck in the same world for entire generations, or moving to another world but losing all your existing family/friend relationships like in Sims 3.

Not to speak ill of the departed, but it feels like the game did take a turn for the better with the change in management, meaning when Rachel Franklin left and we got Lyndsey Pearson who is a Sim veteran. The Sims is a unique game -- unlike games where you have a definitive end, the Sims are endless. Even if your original Sim dies, you can pick up and go one with any other Sim in the game. Barring save corruption, you can play the same save for years; I'm sure there are players who have been playing the same save since September 2014 when the game released. (not me, I've got too short an attention sp...oh look, shiny!). I think that takes a certain perspective and attitude that can't be easily found in the game industry.

Actually even in Sims 3 you don’t have to with mods (and cheats, nothing easier than repairing a friendship in the game), I can repair family trees just fine now with Mastercontroller. I’m convinced they are capable of creating a world way bigger than a TS4 neighborhood and connect them. Not in the least because a moderator even managed to do it with the TS3 worlds. It’s possible so I won’t settle for much less (the worlds don’t need to be as big as Sims 3’s, but they’ll have to be as open and immersive for me).

Even with mods, when my Sim and his alien half-brother moved from Sunlit Tides to Isla Paradiso using the in-game system, they still arrived as just Good Friends and totally lost the family relationship which basically ruined my planned storyline. And they were totally cut off from their family back home. In Sims 4 I can move my YAs to San Myshuno and still able to call the parents in Newcrest to meet at the Diving Pelican in Windenburg to have dinner. Can't do that in Sims 3. And what about the players who don't want to use mods?

I wouldn't mind seeing a bit better time management -- there should be at least some sort of passage of time when traveling between neighborhoods and worlds, but I don't want to be sitting and watching a taxi driving down the road taking up gameplay time.

With Traveler it works exactly like in Sims 4, meaning sims will remember who they left behind and can travel back if they want to. And as for your alien half-brother: with Mastercontroller you can repair family ties and turn every sim in town into a half-brother if you'd want to. And when you put sims in one household together when you move them, you don't even have to use mods.

It's great you can travel between neighborhoods now, don't get me wrong, but it's in no way tied to this 'tiny neighborhoods with loadingscreens all over and uncontrollable sims at the other side' system Sims 4 has. In fact I prefer a modless Sims 3 situation myself if it's between those two. Because I've never felt stuck to one world for entire generations, even when I played without mods. I'm in my 21st generation and my sims have lived in seven different worlds and had adventures in X more. Playing in an actual world where I can control all my sims at all times is much more important to me.

I just wanna throw this into the discussion:
Now they're calling it the "Next Sims Experiences"
http://simscommunity.info/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/DZOrSGxXcAAAA8l.jpg

http://simscommunity.info/2018/03/26/ea-to-announce-next-sims-experiences-at-ea-play/

I hope it's The Sims 5 and even more hope that it ain't shit!

Now that is exciting!

"FreezerBunnyCowplant;c-16402004" wrote:
I just wanna throw this into the discussion:
Now they're calling it the "Next Sims Experiences"
http://simscommunity.info/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/DZOrSGxXcAAAA8l.jpg

http://simscommunity.info/2018/03/26/ea-to-announce-next-sims-experiences-at-ea-play/

I hope it's The Sims 5 and even more hope that it ain't plum!

Well it does say next sim experiences not new so maybe more packs? Plus they said experiences maybe more then one. I don’t see how they already have a sims 5 demo ready for people to play before even being announced.

It won't be Sims 5. Probably an EP.

It's more likely live play. of Sims mobile

Here's an update of that tweet:

https://twitter.com/TheSims/status/978663357036208129

It's for Sims 4. PC or console, maybe, but definitely not Sims 5.