No intention of adding fuel to the male duds issue, but I can't make me in TS4. Maybe being a bona-fide geezer (graduated HS in 1967) has something to do with it, but I can't find decent dress shirts in plain dull colors, or dress slacks, or shoes. Suit jackets/blazers are either wrong cut or lousy colors. Whatever happened to good old-fashioned dungarees and chambray shirts? If I can actually make any kind of male sim I'm OK with it's more by happy accident than deliberate planning.