i'm done with the sims

Part of the problem, I think, is even in real life male fashion is pretty “samey” if you get what I mean. Men tend to wear a few basic items:

• T-Shirts
  
• Jeans
  
• Shorts
  
• Button down shirts
  
• Sweatshirts/hoodies
  
• Polo shirts
  
• Suit/Sport Jackets
  
• Trousers
  
• Khakis
  
• Athletic shoes
  
• Sandals/Flip flops
  
• Dress shoes
  
• Deck shoes
  

Pajamas, socks, underwear, and the occasional tuxedo aside that’s really it. So I guess designing new assets can seem really repetitive and they’re always getting raked over for “reskinning” objects/assets it’s not easy keeping things fresh, and when they did try some avant-garde men’s fashion in Romantic Garden Stuff, and City Living people threw a fit calling it unwearable and unusable so they’re kind of between a rock and a hard place. Because they have covered and recovered the basic ground of men’s fashion in CAS and when they try something new or different it gets panned mercilessly.

"Pamtastic72;c-17817112" wrote:
Part of the problem, I think, is even in real life male fashion is pretty “samey” if you get what I mean. Men tend to wear a few basic items:

• T-Shirts
  
• Jeans
  
• Shorts
  
• Button down shirts
  
• Sweatshirts/hoodies
  
• Polo shirts
  
• Suit/Sport Jackets
  
• Trousers
  
• Khakis
  
• Athletic shoes
  
• Sandals/Flip flops
  
• Dress shoes
  
• Deck shoes
  

Pajamas, socks, underwear, and the occasional tuxedo aside that’s really it. So I guess designing new assets can seem really repetitive and they’re always getting raked over for “reskinning” objects/assets it’s not easy keeping things fresh, and when they did try some avant-garde men’s fashion in Romantic Garden Stuff, and City Living people threw a fit calling it unwearable and unusable so they’re kind of between a rock and a hard place. Because they have covered and recovered the basic ground of men’s fashion in CAS and when they try something new or different it gets panned mercilessly.

I have to agree with this.what else does men really wear besides the basics? (On average)
In contrast I notice with girl stuff when it comes to cc there are cuts over here and holes over there and sparkles here, flare there. Etc the creativity is pretty endless with girls. But the average straight male would not be seen in anything out if the norm. Which is pretty boring ??

I'm not done with TS4, but I do share your frustration. I am a young adult female, but I mostly play male sims and I was really disappointed to discover that they have been left out once again. I was hoping for some nice smart full-length jeans at least. I really wish CAS was more balanced as male sims of all ages definitely deserve more attention and variety.

"Babykittyjade;c-17817116" wrote:

I have to agree with this.what else does men really wear besides the basics? (On average)
In contrast I notice with girl stuff when it comes to cc there are cuts over here and holes over there and sparkles here, flare there. Etc the creativity is pretty endless with girls. But the average straight male would not be seen in anything out if the norm. Which is pretty boring ??

@Babykittyjade Yes maybe the average male but not all of us.
Furthermore, don't forget the Sims is supposed to be a game were you are told to go crazy with stories and make quirky characters yet when all the clothes are bland or "average" it doesn't allow you to dress males very creatively.

There are tons of clothes that the "average" male wouldn't wear in real life but in the Sims they could find use by people who want to create more than just a realistic, average man.

I think the way you said it was a bit dramatic but i agree. I would love more cas items to men. I find most male hair way too same and i would like more different styles. But i've also noticed that most young adult girls/womens tends to play as female. it's clear from looking cc also. It target audience is young females like some/most games are targeted for males. So it's not like only this game don't make exactly same amount for male and females as a personal attack for men. but i think sims 4 could be the 'ground breaker ' to that. At least we can hope. We should ask ea to make more for males also but just let's not start to fight this males vs females thing, i don't think it helps. it could just make more harm than good :)

"bella_goth;c-17815856" wrote:
they're always excluding men, we don't even have body hair on the game.

Everyone has body hair. And in the same spots. So that's not really a male problem.

If it's any consolation, though, most of the female clothing is horrendous anyway. If you really want male clothing, you need to make a big stinky about it to the point where people are complaining about you complaining on every social media website there is. And then get people to agree with you. And then get them to complain with you. For months on end.

The real problem here is that most people just really don't care that much. They'll make a snide comment about it in passing every couple of months when they makeover Bob Pancakes and can't find any good pants. There isn't a significant amount of people talking about it at any given point ?

My biggest gripe is what pants we do have in the game are not "normal" (at least not where I live ... most guys do not, ok actually I've never ever seen a guy in any town around me who wears above ankle pants!)

I just want some everyday, casual bootcut jeans for my dudes! I can pretty much dress them how I want for the most part, even tho they all usually wear the same thing in different colors/patterns.

"Pamtastic72;c-17817112" wrote:
Part of the problem, I think, is even in real life male fashion is pretty “samey” if you get what I mean. Men tend to wear a few basic items:

• T-Shirts
  
• Jeans
  
• Shorts
  
• Button down shirts
  
• Sweatshirts/hoodies
  
• Polo shirts
  
• Suit/Sport Jackets
  
• Trousers
  
• Khakis
  
• Athletic shoes
  
• Sandals/Flip flops
  
• Dress shoes
  
• Deck shoes
  

Pajamas, socks, underwear, and the occasional tuxedo aside that’s really it. So I guess designing new assets can seem really repetitive and they’re always getting raked over for “reskinning” objects/assets it’s not easy keeping things fresh, and when they did try some avant-garde men’s fashion in Romantic Garden Stuff, and City Living people threw a fit calling it unwearable and unusable so they’re kind of between a rock and a hard place. Because they have covered and recovered the basic ground of men’s fashion in CAS and when they try something new or different it gets panned mercilessly.

I agree with this! My husband wears suits for work, but otherwise he only wears T-shirts, jeans, sweatpants, shorts, sweatshirts, polos, and the occasional sweater. I do think they could offer more swatches at least, and the male jeans in game are seriously lacking. The hairstyles, facial hair, and jewelry/accessories really need some help as well. I’m not super upset about body hair not being added, not because I don’t think it’s needed, but because they never make those CAS items as well as CC creators do. The body hair in TS3 looked awful IMO, just like the piercings do in TS4, I’ll stick to CC myself.

"Pamtastic72;c-17817112" wrote:
Part of the problem, I think, is even in real life male fashion is pretty “samey” if you get what I mean. Men tend to wear a few basic items:

• T-Shirts
  
• Jeans
  
• Shorts
  
• Button down shirts
  
• Sweatshirts/hoodies
  
• Polo shirts
  
• Suit/Sport Jackets
  
• Trousers
  
• Khakis
  
• Athletic shoes
  
• Sandals/Flip flops
  
• Dress shoes
  
• Deck shoes
  

Pajamas, socks, underwear, and the occasional tuxedo aside that’s really it. So I guess designing new assets can seem really repetitive and they’re always getting raked over for “reskinning” objects/assets it’s not easy keeping things fresh, and when they did try some avant-garde men’s fashion in Romantic Garden Stuff, and City Living people threw a fit calling it unwearable and unusable so they’re kind of between a rock and a hard place. Because they have covered and recovered the basic ground of men’s fashion in CAS and when they try something new or different it gets panned mercilessly.

This is the same problem I face. Men’s fashion is all samey. So it would be nice to have variety in my male Sims wardrobe. I didn’t have a problem with some City Living items in Romantic Garden. They did make slight changes and it was more stuff.

Body hair would be such a great addition.

"ncisGibbs02;c-17817282" wrote:

"Pamtastic72;c-17817112" wrote:
Part of the problem, I think, is even in real life male fashion is pretty “samey” if you get what I mean. Men tend to wear a few basic items:

• T-Shirts
  
• Jeans
  
• Shorts
  
• Button down shirts
  
• Sweatshirts/hoodies
  
• Polo shirts
  
• Suit/Sport Jackets
  
• Trousers
  
• Khakis
  
• Athletic shoes
  
• Sandals/Flip flops
  
• Dress shoes
  
• Deck shoes
  

Pajamas, socks, underwear, and the occasional tuxedo aside that’s really it. So I guess designing new assets can seem really repetitive and they’re always getting raked over for “reskinning” objects/assets it’s not easy keeping things fresh, and when they did try some avant-garde men’s fashion in Romantic Garden Stuff, and City Living people threw a fit calling it unwearable and unusable so they’re kind of between a rock and a hard place. Because they have covered and recovered the basic ground of men’s fashion in CAS and when they try something new or different it gets panned mercilessly.

This is the same problem I face. It’s all samey. So it would be nice to have variety in my male Sims wardrobe. I didn’t have a problem with some City Living items in Romantic Garden because it was more stuff! They did make slight changes.

Body hair would be such a great addition.

I like them too, though admittedly I barely used them until Get Famous came out, now I use them a lot for my male celebrity sims.