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5 years ago

Is a college degree worth it? An experiment (Concluded, with results)

While taking my main legacy save's triplets through college, I started to wonder if the gain in career levels that comes with a degree is really worth the time you invest in that degree. I mean, the gameplay in university is fun, and I'm having a good time with my triplets, who have now all met sweethearts in university too. But I kept wondering about the career advancement part. So I've started a short experiment. Meet the Hunters: Duck, Truffle and Bargain.
https://i.ibb.co/zfK6T3P/meet-the-hunters.png

That's Bargain on the left, Duck in the middle and Truffle on the right.
(Incidentally, this is the prettiest random generation I've had yet; Duck was the randomly generated sim first offered when I started the new game, beauty mark and all, and the other two are the first and second roll of dice for generating siblings. I didn't even change their hair or Truffle's outfit.)

My plan is to send Truffle to a distinguished degree, Bargain to a regular degree, and Duck straight into a career. It will be computer engineer for all three so I can easily compare how their degrees help them, and computer science university degrees. They'll be primarily focused on school and career but will still do some socializing etc., so they're not just skill monkeys. I don't have any plans to get anyone honors degrees, as I haven't had a character do that yet, and I'd sort of rather test what happens without the honors condition. I've started them as teens so they can build up their skills through gameplay. Their traits are Genius and Bro, so they can learn fast and keep each other happy. Here they are working on their programming.
https://i.ibb.co/gty1Hgd/practicing-programming.png

Spoiler


They live in the starter house in Britechester and they all have part-time jobs. And bunk beds. And not a lot of privacy.
https://i.ibb.co/4Sshn9y/bunk-beds.png

High school + part-time job + starter home/cash = they run themselves into the GROUND. We are definitely using the paid vacation days from the jobs. Fun is especially hard to find. Some cool people hang out at Pepper's Pub though, and this was a fun night
https://i.ibb.co/B4mQXGK/juice-pong-with-bella-and-akira.png

Obviously we knew who was going to win.
https://i.ibb.co/6HnRBq4/juice-pong-score.png

They have identical traits but, it seems, their own personalities are beginning to emerge. Truffle likes to talk. And talk. And talk. Here she is initiating every conversation interaction while Bargain does his homework and goes "Uh-huh. Uh-huh."
https://i.ibb.co/5vVSDyq/own-personalities-t-likes-to-talk.png

Oh right, all the first Harvestfest milestones
https://i.ibb.co/s5ZtyGY/first-harvestfest.png

And with Harvestfest the gardening begins!
https://i.ibb.co/56Vzmyw/harvestfest-gardening-begins.png

They saved the fall and winter seed packets, sold the spring and summer packets and the gnomes, and bought a robot station and a video game system. Now they can have more fun at home, start building robotics skill, and maybe have some utilibots to help around the house.


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  • Term 2 complete! Some skills went up, the grades were basically really good, Duck got promoted at work, etc. No surprises so I'm not posting much in the way of those shots. Well, one surprise: There is actually a departure point for class RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE. Grr. I didn't have to do all that jogging across the bridge... oh well

    We're now well into term 3. All their homework is done and they only have to take their finals. The suspense!

    In the meantime, here is a classic romance festival moment. Bargain is basking in the warm happy glow of some finally successful flirtation with Yuki (in the background, at the food stand.) In the foreground is the back of Emilia Ernest, whom Bargain doesn't even notice.
    But does anyone notice Don Lothario creeping around back there??
    https://i.ibb.co/Fg11bQb/romance-festival.png

    Spoiler


    (I was kinda disappointed when nothing much happened after that)

    Duck got promoted to the point where she needs to choose a career branch! She is now a Computer Constructor, the first career in the computer engineer branch. S145/hour, 9 hours 5 days a week.
    https://i.ibb.co/SJLh48r/select-a-branch.png

    Bargain takes out his school stress on the weeds.
    https://i.ibb.co/LCszv4W/take-out-final-exam-stress-on-the-weeds.png

    Truffle takes out her stress on Kiyoshi in the hot tub.
    https://i.ibb.co/N1RwLPD/t-and-kiyoshi.png

    Miko invited Duck over and she brought her siblings to meet Miko and the roommates. There might have been something romantic happening in Miko's room, but then everyone piled in and started talking. Roommate life.
    https://i.ibb.co/vqcCg9m/visit-to-miko.png

    Truffle was invited to Kiyoshi's beautiful home to meet his family. She wasn't allowed to actually use the chess table, but she sat there and made pleasant conversation. (She was allowed to finish grilling the elote after Megumi started it and then wandered off halfway through.)
    https://i.ibb.co/r3V9tPX/visit-kiyoshi.png

    Thanks to Miko and Angela, our grill at home gets cleaned more often than it gets used.
    https://i.ibb.co/tCB6ycM/the-grill-gets-cleaned-more-often-than-it-gets-used.png

    One is neat and one is handy. Teamwork!
    https://i.ibb.co/SKDPKms/teamwork.png

    Aww
    https://i.ibb.co/yWdRbF7/aww.png

    Cleaner-bot! Hopefully now Miko and Angela can relax
    https://i.ibb.co/8xLJq2R/cleaner-bot.png

    Also, Alexander Goth stopped by in this game's version of his teen look. I think it's cool.
    https://i.ibb.co/LZrqQP0/alexander-goth.png

    Not sure what's funnier: the doom eyes of the reaper gnome, or the fact that they're eating LAST year's poor quality Harvestfest grand breakfast.
    https://i.ibb.co/ZS9q5RB/not-sure-whats-funnier.png

    But they had a proper (freshly cooked) Harvestfest dinner later.
    https://i.ibb.co/kKhnt3x/proper-harvestfest-dinner.png



    See you at graduation!!
  • And we're done!

    https://i.ibb.co/CB7QX3v/we-did-it.png

    Cute storytelling in the spoiler, final results below.

    Spoiler


    Graduation and the two days before were also their adult birthdays. So we spent exactly our entire young adult life stage in university, and that's taking university as fast as possible without mods. I peeked at the calendar and learned that there are only 3 more weeks before they become elders!
    https://i.ibb.co/t2kbz8Z/adult-birthdays.png

    Duck was invited to give a lecture on engineering to the Foxbury students. She got a kick out of that. I don't have a degree, suckers, but here I am teaching you!
    https://i.ibb.co/mB2vWDy/duck-gives-lecture.png

    Final exams all done!! This is the "all done" dance
    https://i.ibb.co/h93gx93/dance.png

    The night after they finished finals, Kiyoshi invited them to a party at the ruins. Sure, we'll take it!
    https://i.ibb.co/Db4g8Bf/time-for-a-party-at-ruins.png

    We'll dance until our sedentary self gets tired, then look for a bonfire to cozy up to.
    https://i.ibb.co/ng4XFsL/party-cozy.png

    I guess it was Kiyoshi's birthday too. Oops.
    https://i.ibb.co/64ZPgvm/kiyoshi-bday-too-oops.png

    He didn't seem offended that we forgot. He made grilled cheese for everyone.
    https://i.ibb.co/5WZgtqs/kiyoshi-made-grilled-cheese-for-everyone.png

    Graduation photos! Bargain, please try to look more awkward
    https://i.ibb.co/8KMpjKM/t-grad-photo.png
    https://i.ibb.co/59MSZJ7/b-grad-photo.png

    Ok. Now the moment of truth. Let's find jobs.
    https://i.ibb.co/HY8Fdrr/ok-now-the-moment-of-truth.png



    Truffle enters the Computer Engineer career at level 8, Processor of Processors, earning S310/hour, 8 hours 4 days a week, with a S2,340 signing bonus. She got that job even though she didn’t have the Robotics skill level for that job. (She does need to get to level 8 for her promotion to the NEXT level, just like anyone else.) This job without a degree is normally paid S220/hour, and the promotion bonus is normally S2,200.
    Bargain enters as a Computer Constructor, level 7, which is exactly the same level as Duck is now, but paid S197/hour with a S1,980 signing bonus. Duck's rate of pay without a degree is S145/hour, promotion bonus S925.

    At current levels, Truffle earns S2480 per day, Bargain S1576, Duck S1305.
    So it looks like the distinguished degree is worth it by a lot, and the regular degree by a nose.
    Their skills ended up pretty close to one another actually, which surprised me.

    But what if you take into account all the money Duck earned while the other two were in college?

    By my count, Duck earned S13,063 before the others graduated.
    It will take Truffle just 5 days to earn that amount at her current career level. In 12 days, her lifetime earnings will overtake Duck’s, if both stay at their current level.
    It will take Bargain 8 days to earn S13,063. His lifetime earnings won’t overtake Duck’s for another 51 days, otherwise known as “never” on normal lifespan.
    This could change a little bit depending on promotions. the limiting factor on all three for further promotions is Robotics skill, and Truffle has farthest to go, so it’s possible the others might catch up to her career level. Even then, though, they won’t be earning what she is earning.

    (I haven’t included tuition costs in this calculation because with a little more organizing than I did, it’s pretty easy to get a full ride or close to it.)

    So, if you can get a distinguished degree, it will really pay off in the long run.
    If you get a regular degree, you're doing the same workload for a fraction of the benefits, and you might not ever catch up earnings-wise to where you'd be if you just entered the career track when you became a young adult.

    The only reason I can think to do a regular degree is for storytelling reasons, wanting to keep a household together in the same university housing, the social benefits of meeting lots and lots of other young adults. Or if you happen to need some skill that's easier for you to build by doing university homework instead of using the actual skill object. Doing university homework seems to build the skill faster than reading the regular skill books.

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