So I took some time off from Sims 4 to let some expansions come out. Magic and Eco Life have dropped so I figured I'd fire up my game again. Here is the sad part, my FIRST thought was there were expansions so what are the new bugs? I find that very disappointing but at least the game has one thing going for it, consistency. Sure enough I've already encountered two new bugs. 1st bug. Some actions just never complete. This seems to happen OFTEN with eating meals. The sim will sit, eat and there hunger will fill up, but the plate of food never loses food and the eating action never completes. The sim just sits there forever spooning food into their mouths. Fortunately this is easy to fix, you just cancel the action and trash the plate and your good to go, but this happens to sims visiting your lot as well. Since you don't have direct control of these sims there is no way to cancel whatever stuck action they have so you have to use the console to resetSim, otherwise they'll eventually starve to death on your lot. This is also happening with the "Watch Movie" interaction on a TV. The movie starts, the sims sit to watch, their entertainment goes up, but the movie will NEVER finish.. they will sit there forever.2nd bug. Decorations are simply not working at all anymore in any situation, the entire system for decorations is now completely broken. Does anyone else find it sad that the first thought with new expansions isn't "Oh my god, new stuff to do, I'm so excited!!" Instead, your first thought is "What bugs are going to be introduced to my currently working game, and is it going to be game breaking?"Add to this the total lack of any amount of urgency in fixing these bugs. Remember the good 'ol days when a game company would take a bug in their game as a personal insult and usually roll out a patch within a week? I don't know if those days are simply gone or if that attitude in game development is not conducive to how EA does business, regardless ... it's disappointing.The saddest part of all of this is it's totally no surprise at all. As soon as EA sucks in a game developer, that developer's product ultimately suffers as a result.Here's to hoping Maxis can shake off the shackles of EA long enough to actually fix these bugs in a timely matter, but I seriously doubt it.Praying I'm wrong,An extremely dissatisfied customer

It is sad. That is how they are though. I will never be able to play a magician in TS3 and make it to the big show venue. Never. The bug they never fixed. I tried the mod but it just slowed down my game too. At the end of TS4, expect to have to live with the bugs they leave at the end.

I might be in the minority here but I've been playing The Sims since 2002 and it has been my experience that with any significant addition, there have been bugs that have required patching to fix. The game in all its iterations is a pretty complicated piece of software and with so many possible interactions, that significant changes kick up a few bugs. The recent base game before Eco living dropped was an extremely ambitious one and with that has come a host of bugs and glitches that will need to be patched out. The team has worked quickly on the most extreme ones and I'm sure is gathering data and working on a host of others. The Sims 4 has overall been a lot more stable for me than The Sims 3 was.Even though this has been a consistent issue with each generation of The Sims I have played, I don't consider it sad. I like The Sims because of all the options and stories it lets me tell. In my experience, games that afford that level of choice often also come with their share of glitches Skyrim, Mass Effect also offer a lot of choice and have had quite a few glitches over the years sometimes after big overhauls and updates. It happens.

I'm sorry but your argument does not hold water. These are not some obscure bugs that you really have to dig into the game to find. These are bugs that ANY player playing for longer then 10 to 15 minutes would notice immediately. The eating bug is the perfect example, it's impossible that that was missed. So one of two things happened, they either failed to play test the expansion AT all, or they did do play testing, knew the bugs were there, and released anyway. I find that I'm unhappy with both of those scenarios, and I feel I'm justified in that disappointment.

"jmac2727;c-17556335" wrote:I'm sorry but your argument does not hold water. These are not some obscure bugs that you really have to dig into the game to find. These are bugs that ANY player playing for longer then 10 to 15 minutes would notice immediately. The eating bug is the perfect example, it's impossible that that was missed. So one of two things happened, they either failed to play test the expansion AT all, or they did do play testing, knew the bugs were there, and released anyway. I find that I'm unhappy with both of those scenarios, and I feel I'm justified in that disappointment. I hadn't noticed the eating one actually, but I prefer to keep my sims needs full via cheats (or even more often with the reward trait that keeps them always full) so they rarely eat haha!tbh, it's never been my first thought and I rarely encounter any bugs in my game. I do remember one last year-ish where todders got stuff stuck to their hands that caused me issues because I play toddlers mostly... but it was fixed quickly.

The always drinking water is a bug that needs to be fixed.

Is it sad that this is normal now?

Cinebar
5 years ago
I agree with your sentiment OP. It is the status quo of TS4. The eating bug was reported when the game was new, looks like it's back. Especially the part of food still on the plate. The old bug of leaving a plate or bowl out on the sidewalk by our Sims or even visitors or townies is an old bug when the game was new. The 'movies' continuing has been reported before here on the forums before they removed the bug threads to site where no one can see all these bugs. It's a real shame that with each new DLC you can expect the core game to get broken over and over with the same old bugs, and each EP or GP to also no longer work as intended. GTW has been broken for as long as I can remember.

No one has addressed the bug of not being able to find a suspect because they may not be wearing the clothes the clues suggests anymore.

It gets very old and tiresome to reinstall patches over and over to fix old bugs and or new bugs that only break more stuff in an owned EP or GP already in game, let alone install a new EP or GP that doesn't even work correctly on day one. The attitude about TS4 seems to be giving Maxis a pass, and why anyone does that is beyond me, by many always saying well all games have bugs.,..well no they don't only subpar ones do.

ETA: Yes, they have said EA is Maxis and Maxis is EA..ok...Andrew Wilson stated many moons ago when he took over, that EA would gain back a good reputation by not releasing buggy games...guess that wasn't true.
Lonewolf1044
Seasoned Spectator
5 years ago
"Fillups44;c-17556319" wrote:
I might be in the minority here but I've been playing The Sims since 2002 and it has been my experience that with any significant addition, there have been bugs that have required patching to fix. The game in all its iterations is a pretty complicated piece of software and with so many possible interactions, that significant changes kick up a few bugs.

The recent base game before Eco living dropped was an extremely ambitious one and with that has come a host of bugs and glitches that will need to be patched out. The team has worked quickly on the most extreme ones and I'm sure is gathering data and working on a host of others. The Sims 4 has overall been a lot more stable for me than The Sims 3 was.

Even though this has been a consistent issue with each generation of The Sims I have played, I don't consider it sad. I like The Sims because of all the options and stories it lets me tell. In my experience, games that afford that level of choice often also come with their share of glitches Skyrim, Mass Effect also offer a lot of choice and have had quite a few glitches over the years sometimes after big overhauls and updates. It happens.

Yes, the game may be stable for you and you are entitled to that opinion but here is mine, while the game may be stable it lacks options as EA/Maxis do not want to ruffle feathers by adding options that may cause an hit to performance and the sad part of it all is the time period we are in where tech is at its highest that was not back in 2014, Glitches and Bugs are not the same as Glitches are mainly caused by specs that the program is not meant to be used and sometimes hard to reproduce whereas bugs are usually hard written in the code and can be activated by running an certain routine. The problem with EA/Maxis is their timing when they chose to fix them for all the others had known bugs and they was never addressed unless an modder took it on themselves to fix it and for me that makes the developer look bad. They never fixed the routing bug which was extreme to the max in Sims 3 where most had an time and half trying to enjoy it but could not because EA/Maxis never tweaked it but the modders did and the pack was IP which was excellent with an big bug. However Sims 4 has it own problems as well.
9ba127553895879
5 years ago
My issue with TS4 isn't that new packs are releases with bugs/glitches (it happens, even with testing you can't account for everything people are going to do or how it is going to affect other packs because most of the time the testing is done strictly with base game only). My issue is that EA/Maxis takes months to fix things that are massively affecting the game. The way NAPs are negatively affecting the game should have been hotfixed immediately, not take over a month without a word of acknowledgement that they are working on the issue. I don't need a massive patch that fixes 95 other bugs/glitches right now; I need an immediate fix to the NAPs that are causing massive issues with sims taking care of themselves and doing what they are told. EA/Maxis is working on the next 35 packs all at the same time, but can't take 2-3 people aside and assign them to bug fixes... wtf EA get your act together!!
Senkoau
5 years ago
What bugs me is not being able to tell what are bugs and what are design features. For example voting on a NAP plan only counts for the eco aspiration if you are in the new world. Is this meant to be that way or should it count in any world? I know introduce yourself to new sims is San Myshuno only but why when we have neighbourhoods in all the worlds? You expect bugs, you get bugs, you report bugs fine but when you genuinely can't tell if its a bug or if its meant to be that way is very frustrating.
Cinebar
5 years ago
"ClarionOfJoy;c-17566061" wrote:
"Fillups44;c-17556319" wrote:
The Sims 4 has overall been a lot more stable for me than The Sims 3 was.

Why even mention The Sims 3? This is about how buggy TS4 is!

Despite what you wrote, The Sims 3 is a lot more stable than TS4. If it's not stable for you then you haven't installed the only two mods that you really need for it: MasterController and Overwatch.

Yes, in defense of TS3 and I don't hardly ever play it anymore, I could load it right now and not even see any bugs since I know BP and IP had routing issues and there are those replacement world fixes for the routing issues for those two worlds. But I could load my game right now and not even run into a bug. I can't do that in TS4.

I think EL has become TS3's IP EP and no point in anyone saying a word about IP anymore (as it was known to be buggy due to routing etc.) but EL has gameplay issues that can't even been handled by the player to overcome like the neutral feature or bug of everything going back to normal/neutral before you even change anything in a world and or some NAPs over taking all of the gameplay in every world. In my opinion EL is right up there with the most bugged pack as many said IP was, and which I never did buy because of those bugs. I would dare say I won't see any bug in TS3 (with the five or six packs I do have installed) and don't even see any bugs in TS2 that I didn't cause myself by using moo and or some other cheat.
EdenPrimeStar
5 years ago
Never buy expansions full price, I wait til they’re on sale or I can make a bundle. They are:
A.) Never worth the asking price
B.) Infested with bugs it’s unprofessional
C.) Beta Test

Bass game patches have bugs too and I wish there was a way I could prevent downloading them until the bugs have been fixed and still play.
shorty943p
Seasoned Rookie
5 years ago
Anybody on this forum ever met Will Wright? Believe me, he was glad to be rid of the AI and autonomy problems.
Scobren
5 years ago
"Fallsmyer;c-17566049" wrote:
My issue with TS4 isn't that new packs are releases with bugs/glitches (it happens, even with testing you can't account for everything people are going to do or how it is going to affect other packs because most of the time the testing is done strictly with base game only). My issue is that EA/Maxis takes months to fix things that are massively affecting the game. The way NAPs are negatively affecting the game should have been hotfixed immediately, not take over a month without a word of acknowledgement that they are working on the issue. I don't need a massive patch that fixes 95 other bugs/glitches right now; I need an immediate fix to the NAPs that are causing massive issues with sims taking care of themselves and doing what they are told. EA/Maxis is working on the next 35 packs all at the same time, but can't take 2-3 people aside and assign them to bug fixes... ???? EA get your act together!!

Which is why we giggle about Sims ever going MMO again. With how slow the live service has been for the Sims 4, having servers that break even more and have even more bugs, it is just begging for a SimCity 2013 repeat again.
Cinebar
5 years ago
This difference to me about live service willy nilly patches and when we would get a patch for TS2 is the time and value of those patches.
I hate to point this out but it was my experience. If anything about a new EP messed up something in TS2, it was only a few weeks until a patch was released to fix those things and they remained fixed. It takes months for things in TS4 to be fixed, and then what some needed fixed may not even be fixed in a next patch. TS2 did need a few emergency patches such as too many NPC characters spawning one time, it didn't take months or years to get that fixed. It was within that month of release of the BV pack, IIRC.

There was no need for hundreds and hundreds of pages of known issues, maintained by a person in the community that has nothing to do with the team. Though we appreciate everyhting Crinrict has done for Simmers all these years by maintaining these lists in TS3 and TS4 it wasn't necessary back in TS2. EP release, patch in the next few weeks, fixed for good 99% of time.
troshalom
5 years ago
"Bronwin2;c-17556354" wrote:
The always drinking water is a bug that needs to be fixed.

@Bronwin2 I never saw that as a bug. I was like cool, sims like to stay hydrated. Now lemme go get something to drink