Is the Sims 4 criticism justified?

it's justified because sims 4 is part of a franchise, and people already has high expectations due to past sims games.
sims 4 is a big downgrade regarding gameplay and AI and everything else that's not build/cas.

the fact that ts4 marketing relied on fake promises is something that disappointed a lot of people (like when they said these were the smartest sims ever due to their emotions...bruh), the fact that they also started using the whole "representation" thing as a way to sell cuz there's barely any good thing to say about ts4.
they keep selling this product as something amazing to cheer on, when even devs knew that the product was flawed from the start.

ts4 is a huge disappointment and a scam and they still want to make more content for it, milking it as much as possible. ts4 biggest problem is like you said, its main core is already bad and limited, there's nothing they can add in any pack, that will change this fact

I think there is room for improvement in ANY game, that's universal. TS4 could be improved, but I'm quite content with it the way it is. The only complaint I have is that some of the patches can be quite buggy, as evidenced by the 9/3 patch--they clearly need to do a better job in this area

Yeah it is. Not just because it lacks in the life simulation department but also because of the false advertising EA did with it.

Constructive criticism is definitely justified. How else will something grow or get better if they don't take any input from anyone else around them? Not all criticism is constructive mind you, and that kind can have a negative or even opposite affect than the one you intended, but if your fan base is constantly telling you something is wrong with your game and needs to be fixed you should listen.

Yes. I'm expected to buy a game that has limited me on changing the neighborhoods and for more money than the last three base games I purchased. That deserves a fair amount of criticism since it turns six years old and will be into it's seventh year shortly and we still can't edit, alter, change a district/world/neighborhood.

Yes. I'm expected to drool over three trait slots. Just three. And also praise the fact they don't even matter in this game. The problem with TS4 is TS2, and TS3 exist. TS1 had a personality system that was even more robust in some regards than TS4's because their interactions and relationhships and or ability to make friends or get promotions or whatever in all walks of life were based on their interests, their astrological signs and other things. TS4's ability is based on a buff at any given time. Shallow.

Yes. Because though they claim to be a diverse generator there are many type Sims not in this game. Religion is a no, so many can't represent themselves if that is what they want to play. They have to imagine. It can't be diverse when billions are left out who feel that way no matter what they believe and or even if disabled Sims are not in the game. They have opened that can by saying they are diverse, then I would ask them to prove it. If they are going to keep saying it, they need to live up to it.

Yes. Because TS4 is not a life simulator though Ryan promised they had built a strong foundation that would make all our dreams come true. Well, what were we dreaming about? Life Simulator. The good and the bad and consequences with choices our Sims make. Where are they? Where is the bad in this game? Where does a Sim ever struggle with any thing? I don't mean the player, I mean the Sim.

Yes. Because after the rebranding a few years ago, they have now stated in several different articles and interviews TS4 is a trend simulator. What? I was told it was the fourth in the long line of serials of The Sims (a life simulator) and now it's not? Why should I continue to buy one more thing if it's a trend simulator? I didn't sign up for that.

Yes. Unlike the past games if I wanted to play something in my imagination, I'm too limited by fake backdrops. Cell phones in every pocket. Not only that but lots I can't edit, or things so tied to the cell phone (lack of choices) or the Sim pc my Sim has to have those things? What happened to giving the player choices not to need those things and still be able to play out a story in their head and even a career?

Yes. Because after six years instead of showing us a road system, they show us Star Wars.

Yes. Because of showing us actual new game play we see things reskinned and or reused such as someone on Youtube pointed out in the new SW trailer, don't we already have 'collecting unusal artifacts' or whatever in JA? Redundant gameplay.

Yes. Because in the same vein, isn't what most who are still buying just rebuying what they already have in the base and or other packs just reskinned and refurbished to be in a different world or different career.

This has been the biggest milk job I have ever witnessed in gaming.

I do love the sims 4, what's frustrating is the fact it has soo much potential to be even better than what it is, I think constructive criticism is important for game development, But people being horrible to each other and the developers is disgusting, no matter what its unacceptable

I have to say that CAS and build/buy is the best out of the previous sims games but the the sim themselves (the main point of the game) is lacking. So I feel the criticism is justified. The sims all act the same and respond the same. I want my Sims to feel like individuals. I want them to have likes/dislikes, wants/fears (fear emotion would be nice too), and turn on/offs. Besides that I want an attraction system and more family relationships at the start of the game. I want my Sims to know they're family when interacting. I want my Sims to not get along with other sims because their personalities clash. I just want my Sims to feel more alive and interesting.

"MissyHissy;c-17649150" wrote:
I do feel I get my money's worth with this generation. The game's held my attention in a gameplay capacity more than any previous generation has.
I think it depends upon the criticism because this fanbase is so diverse that most people have different gripes for different things. Criticism for a pack release when it's not your personal preference does, I think, tend to verge towards the Over The Top - certainly not something I saw to this degree with previous generations, anyway. But perhaps the prominence of social media has contributed towards that.

Again as far as features go, it's in the eye of the beholder, as @FairyGodMother said. Many do cite cars, babies, bunkbeds and romance systems as 'key' elements to the game and that it's 'lacking' without them. I disagree on most of those (the romance one is the only one I really agree on) because they won't make a major difference to my game - I can take them or leave them.

I also don't tend to get the bugs and glitches many others get - more often than not, the patch notes fix bugs I've never seen in my game. ? Perhaps it's to do with my PC or maybe I'm just fortunate.

I don't think it deserves the anger and fury but a little frustration if a feature you're keen on hasn't arrived yet - but every game in the world could be victim to that. <3

All of this!

Also a lot of people don't seem to know the difference between constructive criticism and feedback ("here's what's wrong, here's how it can be improved") vs. just bashing/being negative ("This sucks and it's lacking, the devs are lazy and EVERYONE feels this way. This game is just terrible and EVERYONE who has played the other versions know it it's a fact this is a SCAM and if you can't see that you are stupid"). One is actually helpful, shows that you want the game to be better. The other is just rude, immature and yes, imo, shows that you don't have any real interest in this product - you just want to complain about it. That's when it becomes negativity.

Your opinion is not a fact. It's all opinion, and it doesn't become fact just because it's a popular opinion online.

I've been playing this game since The Sims waaay back in 2000. I love The Sims 4, am fine with it as it is. No game is perfect and I am pretty down with the constructive criticism of the game and appreciate those who actually put thought into their criticism and don't devolve into name-calling, rudeness and pretending that they speak for everyone who plays.

"TheSpotted_C;c-17649371" wrote:

"MissyHissy;c-17649150" wrote:
I do feel I get my money's worth with this generation. The game's held my attention in a gameplay capacity more than any previous generation has.
I think it depends upon the criticism because this fanbase is so diverse that most people have different gripes for different things. Criticism for a pack release when it's not your personal preference does, I think, tend to verge towards the Over The Top - certainly not something I saw to this degree with previous generations, anyway. But perhaps the prominence of social media has contributed towards that.

Again as far as features go, it's in the eye of the beholder, as @FairyGodMother said. Many do cite cars, babies, bunkbeds and romance systems as 'key' elements to the game and that it's 'lacking' without them. I disagree on most of those (the romance one is the only one I really agree on) because they won't make a major difference to my game - I can take them or leave them.

I also don't tend to get the bugs and glitches many others get - more often than not, the patch notes fix bugs I've never seen in my game. ? Perhaps it's to do with my PC or maybe I'm just fortunate.

I don't think it deserves the anger and fury but a little frustration if a feature you're keen on hasn't arrived yet - but every game in the world could be victim to that. <3

All of this!

Also a lot of people don't seem to know the difference between constructive criticism and feedback ("here's what's wrong, here's how it can be improved") vs. just bashing/being negative ("This sucks and it's lacking, the devs are lazy and EVERYONE feels this way. This game is just terrible and EVERYONE who has played the other versions know it it's a fact this is a SCAM and if you can't see that you are stupid"). One is actually helpful, shows that you want the game to be better. The other is just rude, immature and yes, imo, shows that you don't have any real interest in this product - you just want to complain about it. That's when it becomes negativity.

Your opinion is not a fact. It's all opinion, and it doesn't become fact just because it's a popular opinion online.

I've been playing this game since The Sims waaay back in 2000. I love The Sims 4, am fine with it as it is. No game is perfect and I am pretty down with the constructive criticism of the game and appreciate those who actually put thought into their criticism and don't devolve into name-calling, rudeness and pretending that they speak for everyone who plays.

Though saying that "something is lacking" or calling EA out when they do certain inappropriate things is sometimes constructive and not bashing, just to be an asshole.
And also there is a lot of opinion in there but there are things that are not just opinions but actual proven issues with the game.

Well value is subjective, so getting less for your money is not a fact. I feel I get a lot more than I used. If someone has a negative opinion of the game, then their criticism is justified. I may not agree with someone, but I won't look with them and tell them their opinion is wrong.