Is The Sims 4 Endgame?

"MiSFiT203;c-16442530" wrote:
202 votes with 62% saying it's over.
i know of 2 sim gurus who spoke out saying its not over, one from console and one from mobile.
zero word from PC team = zero consumer confidence, not a good sign.

sorry, but i have zero interest in mobile or console games, so its not them i want to hear from.
and to be sure of that i unfollowed anyone not affiliated with the PC team. though at this point and at the past quality
of the current game, i'm not sure if i'll believe anyone.

That just confirms that it's over.

"Sk8rblaze;c-16441532" wrote:
The prime issue with EA is exactly what Steve Jobs said was the downfall of Xerox.

To summarize his great interview, you have these business individuals, sales, marketing, etc. who have ended up running EA/Maxis. The product people, the actual game developers that made EA games so great, were (and currently are) driven out in the interim. Now, EA Games is nothing more than these business people dictating what is happening, and what is funny is, it's barely working the way they had hoped. EA Games has no conception of what a good game is, and the excellent craftsmanship that EA/Maxis was once renowned for is gone.

That is why other franchises are excelling in content and player reception; the people running their companies are gamers at heart that know what makes a good game, and are not entirely out there for the money. It is a huge shame, but let's all be real here. Play The Sims 2 and then play The Sims 4. You can feel there is something missing -- and that is passion.

Thanks for that video. I think, for me, it explains the way the game has developed recently. It looks like Apple might go the same way now Jobs has gone. Even Microsoft has to watch out. Its' Edge Browser has finally forced me on to Chrome and Google.

Video games aren't going anywhere, and the Sims is one of the best-selling video game franchises of all time.

I think the community is eating up what it wants to hear from Sims news websites, but none of these websites has provided a credible source for any of its claims. The "former Sim Guru" on reddit is not a credible source. What information has that redditor provided that a disenchanted Simmer couldn't easily whip up? Sims VIP and Sims Community keep talking about their "sources", and the community is taking them at face value when they are all just sharing the same unverified story. Let's face it - if I created a reddit account and started posting as a "former Sim Guru" about how the franchise just hasn't been the same since TS2 and the team has no heart anymore, there are plenty of Simmers who would believe me because it just confirms what they expect to - and at this point for some people, want to - hear. But how many of them would believe me if I created an account from a "former Sim Guru" and started talking about how great it was to work on TS4 and how much passion we poured into the game?

Just when I am agreeing with @DeservedCriticism after all this time - he gets banned. He is the equivalent to Cassandra of Troy fame, never believed until the event happens!

Even though I've been frustrated with Sims 4 since its beginning, I always wanted to hope that someday, somehow things would get better. But I've had a gut hunch for a while that things would eventually go the way of the SimCity franchise, which makes me really sad. I wanted to be optimistic and hope we'd hear something awesome at EAPlay but I think the news will be something a PC gamer like me (more of a storytelling dollhouser actually) just won't be interested in. To hear that they've let long term SimGurus go just cements to me that the end of the PC Sims franchise is on its way. I'm just really disappointed, especially that we don't have a good competitor. I guess I'll have to make sure that my current computer and any future build will play Sims 2 and Sims 3.

"peach1red;c-16443033" wrote:

"DragonCat159;c-16442395" wrote:

"gummybear0724;c-16440159" wrote:
I don't know. I don't know what direction this company is headed, and frankly they'd better let us know.

As if (to the bolded part).

"TheGoodOldGamer;c-16440236" wrote:
I'm hoping the next one is a full on official reboot, personally. Just 'Sims' or 'The Sims' or 'Sims 2020' or whatever. Just so long as it's clearly marketed as a full on reboot. Cut the ties and keep the basics. A refresh would do this franchise good.

Not that I want, but I agree. The Reason that TS4 was such a controversy was because of its title and implied as a main series. Should have marketed as a standalone game. If a similar design of a game is coming (which is unforrtunate), they better not call it FIVE.

Please define what makes a Sims game part of the main series.

Sims 1 - essential elements modernized expanded upon and improvements made in Sims 2 - essential elements modernized expanded upon and improvements made in Sims 3 - essential elements removed partly modernized most things reduced and improvements in a single life stage Sims 4

"cactusjuice;c-16443051" wrote:

"peach1red;c-16443033" wrote:

"DragonCat159;c-16442395" wrote:

"gummybear0724;c-16440159" wrote:
I don't know. I don't know what direction this company is headed, and frankly they'd better let us know.

As if (to the bolded part).

"TheGoodOldGamer;c-16440236" wrote:
I'm hoping the next one is a full on official reboot, personally. Just 'Sims' or 'The Sims' or 'Sims 2020' or whatever. Just so long as it's clearly marketed as a full on reboot. Cut the ties and keep the basics. A refresh would do this franchise good.

Not that I want, but I agree. The Reason that TS4 was such a controversy was because of its title and implied as a main series. Should have marketed as a standalone game. If a similar design of a game is coming (which is unforrtunate), they better not call it FIVE.

Please define what makes a Sims game part of the main series.

Sims 1 - essential elements modernized expanded upon and improvements made in Sims 2 - essential elements modernized expanded upon and improvements made in Sims 3 - essential elements removed partly modernized most things reduced and improvements in a single life stage Sims 4

Exactly what I thought....

I think this is the last PC iteration that we'll see. Don't know what else is in store, but sadly I think The Sims 4 is the last we'll see.

I voted yes going o n the assumption that you meant last of the "new" games. I think it should be with the EA team updating and improving it as needed. And it needs improvements there is no doubt. I refused to play it when it came out even though I did purchase it and the first few new things that came out, figuring at some point they would start to listen and do right by us. Granted there are many more things we can grouse about but if EA finally stops with the materialistic side and starts to think about the happiness side we should end up with a truly great game.

"Terra;c-16442919" wrote:

I think the community is eating up what it wants to hear from Sims news websites, but none of these websites has provided a credible source for any of its claims.

This is pretty much the only thing that makes me skeptical about all this. The fact that the closest thing we have to a reliable source is someone on reddit claiming to be a former guru. That said, after the past four years we've had, combined with the fact that nobody has even tried to dispute these claims, I can't help but feel like it's still true. Not hopeful, mind you. Just slightly fearful.