Is there a technical reason unnatural skin tones don't tan?

"WildIrishBanshee;c-17136897" wrote:
I remember a guru mentioning why vampires don't tan/burn - because their skin is dead, and therefore it isn't even theoretically possible to do either. Not sure why the rest can't though! Yeah, I don't get that whole white/black thing either - you mix colors, you get black, not white, but okay scientists...

If you will note, I mentioned this happens with light, not paint.

Looking at it another way aliens wouldn't be able to invade other worlds if they were so affected by their suns would they? Maybe (like in the film Independence Day) it's a protective cover as well as them inventing a human type one? Maybe Sixam is a world conquest!

I've read too much science fiction!

If there is no technical/game code reason and it's just another area they chose not to flesh out I'm bummed. There is no excuse to use 'realism' as a way to not include their Aliens/Mermaids into a feature. That ship sailed once you made the occult in the first place.

Also I don't understand calling picking the colors logistically impossible. It might take a few drafts to see what looked nice but the tones are all blue/green/purple. Pretty easy colors to have darkened and effected by red and the white tone would be the one, to me, with the most debate. Does it go darker pure grey? Do we tone it grey blue when tanned? Ect. I took art in school too and would have never gotten my degree if I told them I couldn't conceptualize tans on blue.

As for the light thing yes, black is absense and white is all colors. The reason it seems different with paint is its because how light reflects off the objects we see. For example an object appears blue because it absorbs light from all sides of the spectrum except blue which is reflects back at us. A black object absorbs all colors and reflects nothing back. The black "light" so to speak we perceive is the absence of all colors. But it's caused by the object or paint absorbing all colors. That's why when we layer pigment it gets darker so we think of it as having more colors but what we're really getting back from light is less.

The paint gets greedy :>

Thank you @Akil, you said it so much better than I. :)

"GalacticGal;c-17136498" wrote:

"floridameerkat;c-17136268" wrote:

"GalacticGal;c-17136130" wrote:
Perhaps, it has everything to do with how many colors would have to be added? I can't imagine a blue skin tone going brown or red, even. I would think a tanned form of the light blue would be a darker blue and perhaps something more like a shade of purple for a burn? As in red + blue = purple? Same for the other colors. A tanned green skin might be a darker green, but what would it look like burnt? An ugly brownish-green? Charred? Red, blue and Yellow are your primary colors. From these three comes all other colors. If you add red to blue you get purple. The shade depends on how much red you add, also how dark the blue is. Same with adding yellow to red gets you orange. If you add yellow to blue you get green. Black and White aren't truly colors. Black is the absence of color whereas white is the combination of all color. Studying light will instruct on that. If, however, you add white to red, you get various shades of pink. If you add red, blue and yellow together you get an interesting shade of brown. If you add black to white you get various shades of gray. Paint can be fun to mix. :) Yes, I took three years of art in school.

Logistically it was probably impossible. Whether or not the modders can figure a way around it, I can't say.

Isn't white the absence of color and black the combination of all colors?

No, you've got that reversed.

I thought the mixture of colors resulted in brown.

"GalacticGal;c-17136498" wrote:

"floridameerkat;c-17136268" wrote:

"GalacticGal;c-17136130" wrote:
Perhaps, it has everything to do with how many colors would have to be added? I can't imagine a blue skin tone going brown or red, even. I would think a tanned form of the light blue would be a darker blue and perhaps something more like a shade of purple for a burn? As in red + blue = purple? Same for the other colors. A tanned green skin might be a darker green, but what would it look like burnt? An ugly brownish-green? Charred? Red, blue and Yellow are your primary colors. From these three comes all other colors. If you add red to blue you get purple. The shade depends on how much red you add, also how dark the blue is. Same with adding yellow to red gets you orange. If you add yellow to blue you get green. Black and White aren't truly colors. Black is the absence of color whereas white is the combination of all color. Studying light will instruct on that. If, however, you add white to red, you get various shades of pink. If you add red, blue and yellow together you get an interesting shade of brown. If you add black to white you get various shades of gray. Paint can be fun to mix. :) Yes, I took three years of art in school.

Logistically it was probably impossible. Whether or not the modders can figure a way around it, I can't say.

Isn't white the absence of color and black the combination of all colors?

No, you've got that reversed.

If you mix all the colors together, you don't get white.

"floridameerkat;c-17143081" wrote:

"GalacticGal;c-17136498" wrote:

"floridameerkat;c-17136268" wrote:

"GalacticGal;c-17136130" wrote:
Perhaps, it has everything to do with how many colors would have to be added? I can't imagine a blue skin tone going brown or red, even. I would think a tanned form of the light blue would be a darker blue and perhaps something more like a shade of purple for a burn? As in red + blue = purple? Same for the other colors. A tanned green skin might be a darker green, but what would it look like burnt? An ugly brownish-green? Charred? Red, blue and Yellow are your primary colors. From these three comes all other colors. If you add red to blue you get purple. The shade depends on how much red you add, also how dark the blue is. Same with adding yellow to red gets you orange. If you add yellow to blue you get green. Black and White aren't truly colors. Black is the absence of color whereas white is the combination of all color. Studying light will instruct on that. If, however, you add white to red, you get various shades of pink. If you add red, blue and yellow together you get an interesting shade of brown. If you add black to white you get various shades of gray. Paint can be fun to mix. :) Yes, I took three years of art in school.

Logistically it was probably impossible. Whether or not the modders can figure a way around it, I can't say.

Isn't white the absence of color and black the combination of all colors?

No, you've got that reversed.

If you mix all the colors together, you don't get white.

You're both right. Black is the presence of all color, but absorbs (is the absence of) light. White is the absence of all color, but reflects(is the presence of) all light.

The tans and burns are done with additional textures, one for tan and one for burn for every natural skin tone. There's a new version of the TONE file that links up three textures (normal, tan, burn) for every skin. The fantasy skins simply have zeros for the tan and burn links so they're not used. Oh, and there's what I call a burn mask that gives a sort of splotchy appearance with pale areas around the eyes, etc.

I've made a converter that'll update the TONE and automatically generate the new textures, so anyone wanting fantasy skins to tan/burn can clone them and run the converter on them. For natural colors it's pretty simple, just darken for tan and make redder for burn. For unnatural colors I went with finding whether blue and/or green is more dominant than red and emphasizing those colors in the burn. So if the skin is blue you get a blue burn, etc. Made sense to me. :)

You would think aliens would burn quicker than human sims considering Sixam is nighttime 24/7 and they have black sclera, indicating they’re nocturnal and/or subterranean. It’s just Maxis being super lazy as always. Mermaids have nonsensical restrictions too.