Kids need to stop cleaning autonomously
Why do they do this? Sorry, but I've never met a child who just decided to start mopping the floor on their own. It's not realistic at all. I'm trying to make my kid get the Irresponsible trait, but h...
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I was talking about this recently somewhere else. I did have one kid grow up with the irresponsible trait but it was because I playing a legacy save with a lot of kids. Sometimes, well, nearly every day, the kids would go off to school and end up right back at home. I guess it happens when you have several sims leaving the lot at the same time. So this one got the irresponsible trait by "skipping" school (even though he went) every day. When I got to the last generation of this legacy, I wanted all the kids to grow up with negative character values. I wanted them to make messes, have bad manners, be irresponsible, everything. It was a real struggle forcing them to have bad manners. For every good mannered thing I saw them do, I'd counter it with two bad mannered things.
I even have Scumbumbo's tuner installed and no matter how many dish washing or plate collecting, puddle mopping interactions I thought I'd squashed, one more would always take it's place. For instance if they're going to make a mess on the floor, they're hardly going to clean up after themselves right away. So I removed that. Then I saw the kids mopping puddles of water. Thought I got rid of it, then I found two more puddle interactions (big/small). Then the thing with washing dishes, taking out trash. I never did get those kids to completely get their values in the negative. I deleted their homework books and sold school projects so they wouldn't build up responsibility, but I think the only one who ever actually maxed it out and carried it into adulthood was that one I wasn't trying to make misbehave. The one who "skipped" school but wasn't.
As far as RL, my mother was a neatnik and she worked as a cleaner too. She did ask us to do light chores, but not mopping floors or doing laundry. Vacuuming, tidying up after ourselves, put toys away, that sort of thing. As a kid, I would never do a dish or clean something unless I was told to. My mother preferred to do all the cleaning herself, she thought nobody would be able to do as good of a job as her, so she would ask us to dust or something. Every now and again she'd take me to work at night cleaning offices and she'd have me do windows or wipe down phones, light switches, empty trash. I think I would have been about 8 or 9 ish? Again, things I did because my mother asked me to, nothing I would have done on my own.
I didn't start using the washer and dryer until I was in my teens,but I did help fold clothes when I was younger.
So I agree, I think if players want their kids to do these chores, maybe have it trait based or have the kid start truly neutral and not do these things autonomously unless they're encouraged to do them several times before they begin. I don't like having character values pushed on my kids. Sometimes I want perfect angels, sometimes I want spawns of Satan, lol.
I even have Scumbumbo's tuner installed and no matter how many dish washing or plate collecting, puddle mopping interactions I thought I'd squashed, one more would always take it's place. For instance if they're going to make a mess on the floor, they're hardly going to clean up after themselves right away. So I removed that. Then I saw the kids mopping puddles of water. Thought I got rid of it, then I found two more puddle interactions (big/small). Then the thing with washing dishes, taking out trash. I never did get those kids to completely get their values in the negative. I deleted their homework books and sold school projects so they wouldn't build up responsibility, but I think the only one who ever actually maxed it out and carried it into adulthood was that one I wasn't trying to make misbehave. The one who "skipped" school but wasn't.
As far as RL, my mother was a neatnik and she worked as a cleaner too. She did ask us to do light chores, but not mopping floors or doing laundry. Vacuuming, tidying up after ourselves, put toys away, that sort of thing. As a kid, I would never do a dish or clean something unless I was told to. My mother preferred to do all the cleaning herself, she thought nobody would be able to do as good of a job as her, so she would ask us to dust or something. Every now and again she'd take me to work at night cleaning offices and she'd have me do windows or wipe down phones, light switches, empty trash. I think I would have been about 8 or 9 ish? Again, things I did because my mother asked me to, nothing I would have done on my own.
I didn't start using the washer and dryer until I was in my teens,but I did help fold clothes when I was younger.
So I agree, I think if players want their kids to do these chores, maybe have it trait based or have the kid start truly neutral and not do these things autonomously unless they're encouraged to do them several times before they begin. I don't like having character values pushed on my kids. Sometimes I want perfect angels, sometimes I want spawns of Satan, lol.
