I'm thinking I might have finally outgrown this game after almost 20 years. I'm still playing the sims 2 fairly regularly, which still surprises me at times, after all these years. I've had a hard time getting into 4, but at times I do enjoy it and will play for days. Then I always hit the wrong button and I see that ts2 is on the screen, and that breaks the cycle of 4 and I'm back to ts2 and the crashing that always comes with it on windows 10. I'm real glad that those of you who voted for knitting got what you wanted. Perhaps I'll find something in the pack I will like. If it's a stuff pack, I will get it. Cripes for 10 bucks, why not?