Laundry Day Stuff Trailer!

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I loved the trailer too, even though I think whoever made it was like I can’t believe this so let’s make it even more ridiculous lol . I mean...

...it’s laundry after all, so dirty clothes

That's exactly how I read it. It was a good-natured (I hope) poke at the community for sure. :D

Yeah , I don’t even blame them at this point lol. I’m really really REALLY trying to understand why people wanted this feature to a point they would pay for it. I mean it won, nothing to do there, but I truly don’t understand why. I mean we ask for such cool features sometimes and when we ar given the choice of picking sometime we chose ... laundry. It could have been a patch. Good thing CAS and Objects were the ones I actually voted for

I agree. Let's be honest it won because it was up against a lot of unknown concepts and it split the vote multiple ways. It was always going to win unless it went up against a bigger wanted feature.

But anyway I digress. Some of the cas items look nice but I can't justify nearly £10 on cas items. The machines themselves look good but its a chore. Literally we are paying for housework many of us do for free. I can't understand why people are happy to pay for laundry and I really can't understand they mindset of "I don't want it but ill buy it anyway" But to each their own. I have a gift voucher so if I were to get it would come off that but it doesn't look interesting enough to use for that.

It’s cheap so I won’t lose my sleep over it.

Wanna buy a pebble I found in my shoe? Don't worry it's cheap, it's only $10.

I'm genuinely curious as to what you get out of trying to ruin other peoples excitement and convince them that the sims 4 is the worst game ever? Its obvious you don't like sims 4, and you honestly never will. But cant you just let people be excited for a pack without insulting them?

"It's cheap anyways" is an abysmally terrible argument and it's the exact reason why Sims 4 is subjected to Stuff Pack spam: because they figured out people repeatedly tell themselves "it's just $10" and buy it whereas EPs are held to a higher standard and more scrutiny. Tomorrow they could release "The Sims 4: Dental Floss Stuff" and people would still buy it and say "oh well it's just ten dollars."

If someone's lone defense of the pack is "it's cheap anyways," then I think that speaks volumes about the quality of these packs...or lack thereof. As I said, I could sell you anything from a cheaply made hamburger that gives you food poisoning to a pet rock to a piece of string. In all of those cases you can argue "oh well it was cheap so who cares," but that does not mean any of those were actually good products. Here it's even more painful because the purchasing habits of today determine the quality of the product tomorrow, but this entire stuff pack model is being kept afloat and kept as a centerstage seller for the Sims 4 on nothing but the argument of "it's cheap so I won't lose sleep over it."

I would struggle to name a single user on this forum that has not been disappointed by the Sims 4 or a Sims 4 pack at some point in time....and yet in that same light, I also struggle to name users that don't blindly purchase every pack. Spoiler alert: the two are connected, and if we want better quality or more bang for our buck, it's time to stop squealing over every single mundane pack and acting like it's super exciting.


On that note, serious question now: What are ANY of you picturing doing with this pack? I mean in the past a stuff pack like Bowling Stuff for example, I can at least see how someone might convince themselves it'll keep them busy or add something to their gameplay. Laundry though...? This offers absolutely nothing. All it offers is about 0.6% more immersion to your gameplay. This game has enough simulation for simulation's sake, but it's severely lacking in gameplay. Heck, I can actually see people regretting their purchase because depending on how the feature was implemented, purchasing it might mean subjecting yourself to a really obnoxious and tedious chore that demands far too much attention. I mean lord knows the Sims team has a bad habit of over-stressing new features and doing everything they can to try and push players in the direction of new stuff, so it's absolutely within the realm of possibility that laundry might demand it be done too frequently and annoy players.

Oh yeah and inb4 your reward for doing laundry and wearing clean laundry is yet another happy moodlet. Lord knows we sure don't have enough of those yet! Could go on another rant about how they insist on propping up that moods system and trying to act like it's more intensive or interesting than it actually is, but that's another story....

Theres a BIG difference between saying something is cheap that will at least provide you with entertainment, and a pebble in your shoe. Thats apples to oranges.

I'm getting really tired of people complaining about Laundry. It literally won the vote, its not like EA just pulled it out of nowhere. Don't go trying to say the vote was a sham either, because it wasn't.

I've said why I enjoy Laundry dozens of times before but I'd be happy to say it again.

I play sims for story telling. Laundry is great for that. Starting out poor and hand washing clothes, to affording a decent machine, all the way to hiring a maid to do it for you.

You CANNOT enjoy luxuries without chores to offset it, otherwise they wouldnt be luxuries. Why we do we fantasize about being rich in the first place? Because the rich can do whatever they want for the most part and live a life of luxury.

The biggest reason though is because this game can be too easy. I actually downloaded a mod for vampires that makes their energy drain, so now they actually have to sleep 8 hours during the day, which makes the energy saving traits actually useful.

Same reason I want Laundry. I want my single parents or stay at home mothers to actually struggle. Taking care of twins while trying to find time to clean the dishes or mop the house, or do a load of laundry. It feels rewarding when they become teenagers and are actually capable of taking care of themselves.

People complain about laundry being an annoying chore, but so is doing dishes. Should we get rid of the dishes?

You also shouldnt be overly concerned about what other people do with their wallets. People will always waste money on silly things they dont want. That is why mobile gaming relies on micro transactions. People spend hundreds of dollars on silly games like Pokemon go.

Thr stuff packs are actually a pretty good deal. They come with just as much, sometimes more stuff than their sims 3 counter parts, with the bonus of 1-5 gameplay objects per pack, for half the price of sims 3. Theres no denying they are a better deal than sims 3 or even 2 stuff packs.

The issue many people might have is that there are so many compared to expansion or game packs, which is fair, but they have different teams.

You miss the point entirely. The point is that if someone's defense of a product is "well at least it's cheap," that is not a testament to quality. If anything, it speaks volumes about the lack of quality that someone has to justify their purchase via the pricetag while avoiding discussion of quality. If I buy an apple and realize only afterwards that it's rotten, do I praise the apple's quality? No, I comfort myself by saying "well at least it was just 50 cents." Great, but that doesn't mean the product is good. The product is still bad. The fact that we constantly see "oh well it's just $10" as justification for these stuff packs speaks volumes about how bad they are. No one ever criticizes or praises individual features of them, they just rationalize "oh well it's cheap" and buy it without thinking twice.

Riddle me this: If this is a stuff pack and the stuff is the attraction, why do so many people immediately scream "OMG I LOVE IT" after one trailer instead of waiting for a livestream that'll surely show them everything the pack has to offer, at which point they can decide if they actually like the style or not? Here's why: because so many consumers here are so deadset on buying anything Sims that they default to "yes" instead of waiting for a product to earn your purchase. There's even a youtube comment on the livestream vid admitting that much: "I’m still salty y’all actually voted for laundry but I’ll still get it because I’m Sims trash and I buy everything no matter what"

I have never said the vote was an intended sham, but is there reason to question if the results truly represent what people wanted? Is it possible they completely and unintentionally screwed up the results by accidently skewing the results in favor of one outcome? YES. This was the ONLY pre-existing, returning idea on the list from a previous Sims game. This was the ONLY idea that already had a group of people pushing for it. This was the ONLY vote candidate that had a SimGuru tweeting support of it.

If I gave you the lone vote in determining who the next president of the USA is, and then I had you either vote for an established and well-known Senator from Washington with a mediocre reputation, or five other random individuals you've never even heard of...? Guess who you'll vote for. Your vote will have absolutely nothing to do with your admiration for that senator and everything to do with the fact he's the only non-wildcard amongst your choices. He's the only one you know anything about or what to expect, and thus he gets the vote simply because it feels more "safe" to vote that way. That's exactly the problem with the voting process of this Stuff Pack, and lo and behold even though the pack was introduced as "Eco Friendly," they're not even pretending to be anything else anymore and now it's just "Laundry Stuff."


Your entire post is just ridiculous hyperboles and exaggerations that once again dance around the issue. To take dishwashing as an example from your own post, here is the pivotal difference: dishwashing didn't cost us $10.

It's really that simple. You yourself openly acknowledge laundry is comparable in depth to dishwashing, and yet despite the fact that your Sims can wash dishes right now for no additional charges, you don't think twice about paying $10 for this. Yeah, ok. Gee, I wonder why I'm so critical of that.