LGR Nifty Knitting Review

"Tenchi2a;c-17608169" wrote:

"muzickmage;c-17607605" wrote:

"Tenchi2a;c-17607547" wrote:

"SimAlexandria;c-17599377" wrote:

"Justin;c-17599341" wrote:

"muzickmage;c-17598942" wrote:

"Justin;c-17598492" wrote:
Reading all these dense opinions defending this pack is a good laugh. They are totally missing the point that the ones who see what this game is becoming are trying to make .

Edited to not fancy anyone’s feelings ;)

I commonly disagree with opinions on this site (and others), and i'm not shy when it comes to confrontation. But at least I can say that I still treat people with respect. I can't say the same for you. Name calling ("brain dead"), and character labeling (being of... dense opinions) are attitudes I can't defend.

People, regardless of their opinions, are not "brain dead". Nor are their opinions "dense". Having you suggest otherwise, says more about you, than the people you are insulting.

Try creating a post explaining your issue with the comments..... what don't you agree with? Why do you think they are wrong? What exactly is your problem? Give people a chance to understand your side of the story, and a chance to explain better their side.

Its called a conversation (debate).

1+ You’re right. Sometimes the truth hurts and it’s better to sugar coat everything . Also, respect is earned not given . People have the right to their opinions & at the end of the day this is the internet. You’re gonna have people disagree & call it out how it is. I’m not going to continue going back & forth with people who are have difficulties realizing the truth . But thanks for your thoughts. I will sleep better at night now <3

I disagree that respect needs to be earned. I believe it should be given to everyone and that everyone deserves to be respected.

They may be able to lose respect later, calling people braindead or dense would be a good way to lose that respect, but to start with everyone should be given it and having a different opinion or enjoying something many dislike would not in the slightest be a reason to lose respect for someone. I only lose respect for people who bully, name call, troll or act in another disrepectful manner themselves.

It seems you don't realize what the word respect means.

Respect: a feeling of deep admiration for someone or something elicited by their abilities, qualities, or achievements.

This is earned not give by definition.

What you are describing is courtesy.

Courtesy: the showing of politeness in one's attitude and behavior toward others.
This should be given not earned.

I can be courteous to you without having respect for your opinions or position on a subject.
.

Well, aren't you a practitioner of technicality? Ok, fair enough. Lets play that game.

You do know that a dictionary is nothing more than a collection of generally accepted terms.... right? And NOT a bible of what is absolutely correct under that law?

"Respect" .... is an emotional activity.... such as love, compassion, hate, or contempt..... which may be freely given, or freely expected.

I haven't yet come across a book, including dictionaries you are citing, that suggest that "respect must be "earned", or in any way paid for.

I don't agree with your claim that "my" respect must be earned before I offer it to other people.

If you are someone who feels that "your" respect must be earned before being offered... fair enough. That's your choice. But don't explain your personal choice as being born from a generally accepted norm of social economic consensus.

The dictionary is the definition of words and and how they are used in the English language.
it is not a guide that you throw away because you want to use the word your way.
If you tried this line in a college English class you would fail.

But, I'm not going to argue this anymore. If you are fine with using the word the wrong way and believing that the English language is your to butcher as you see fit, have at it.

I'm sorry. Did someone teach you at some point in your life that the English language is subject to copyright laws? Language.... such as English, is constantly changing, and is constantly being examined and updated in the dictionaries we use to help us maintain a general interpretation.

It's ok to use a dictionary to keep up with generally accepted terms and definitions, but shouldn't be used as a tool to deny other cultural, or personal choices, especially when adopted in defense of other people's social well being.

To offer an example. The work "sick" in a dictionary would offer an interpretation relating to illness. But, a minority group.... such as a street gang, or perhaps someone of goth practices.... may use the word "sick" to mean something completely different.... despite what a dictionary might teach. (ie; wow, that song was sick)

There are many words in the English language that may be used, and generally accepted amongst minority groups as having a particular definition or interpretation which the dictionary of today may not represent or teach. As I suggested before, the dictionary isn't a bible of what is absolutely correct under the law. At best, it's just a guide to help us keep up with what is "generally accepted".

However, the issue here isn't a dictionary's shared content, explaining words such as "car", "guitar", "computer", or ideas such as "cat", "dog", "elephant", etc, etc......

..... You're using a dictionary to define, and explain "human emotion" and it's activities. To use a dictionary to suggest, or teach, that "love" (for example) should be earned, and not freely given, or that compassion should be earned, or hatred, or contempt..... or "respect".....

Again, i'm sorry, but even if you found a dictionary that suggested a generally accepted belief that any emotional activity should be earn, not just freely given... a dictionary (to explain again) isn't a book of laws and/or policies, I don't have to accept these beliefs.

Or... said another way....
.... Though a dictionary may attempt the task of defining the emotional activity of "respect" (or any other emotion). A dictionary isn't a court issued book of law telling us how that emotional activity must be exercised. We each, as individuals, have the personal freedom to choose how we treat other people.

If I choose to respect people, who did nothing to earn my respect, that's exactly what i'm going to do.... despite what your dictionary may teach in it's attempt to define the very emotional activity I am exercising.

In ending, I hope you continue to enjoy your dictionary.

(In other news, it's rumored that somewhere on planet earth another cat may have gotten stuck in a tree. Again. This is just a rumor. Nobody panic.)

After reading people's comments about LGR's review, i'm not sure what the core argument is. Is it his opinion, or the way he chose to express it?

It's sometimes difficult to take someone serious, or see the message someone is trying to share when we are feeling insulted or discouraged by the way they may have shared that message. It's even worse when that message seems to contradict our own ideas.

People don't generally respond well to being told to change their mind. And most likely won't examine their own beliefs when the idea of doing so is being offered in a way that makes them uncomfortable.

So, i'm a bit curious here. What is the issue with LGR's review. His opinion, or the way he shared it?

"muzickmage;c-17608337" wrote:


People don't generally respond well to being told to change their mind. And most likely won't examine their own beliefs when the idea of doing so is being offered in a way that makes them uncomfortable.

@muzickmage Yes, this is very true we did that in psychology class. In short the theory says that when people have a certain opinion about one thing and they are presented with an arguement that contradicts that opinion then they react by trying to weaken the other person's opinion or by trying to relativize it. That happens because changing your own estabilished opinion requires more mental energy than just trying to weaken the opposing opinion and as humans we naturally tend to avoid making an effort to change our opinion because it tires us out. We prefer to have a peace of mind.

"muzickmage;c-17608314" wrote:

"Tenchi2a;c-17608169" wrote:

"muzickmage;c-17607605" wrote:

"Tenchi2a;c-17607547" wrote:

"SimAlexandria;c-17599377" wrote:

"Justin;c-17599341" wrote:

"muzickmage;c-17598942" wrote:

"Justin;c-17598492" wrote:
Reading all these dense opinions defending this pack is a good laugh. They are totally missing the point that the ones who see what this game is becoming are trying to make .

Edited to not fancy anyone’s feelings ;)

I commonly disagree with opinions on this site (and others), and i'm not shy when it comes to confrontation. But at least I can say that I still treat people with respect. I can't say the same for you. Name calling ("brain dead"), and character labeling (being of... dense opinions) are attitudes I can't defend.

People, regardless of their opinions, are not "brain dead". Nor are their opinions "dense". Having you suggest otherwise, says more about you, than the people you are insulting.

Try creating a post explaining your issue with the comments..... what don't you agree with? Why do you think they are wrong? What exactly is your problem? Give people a chance to understand your side of the story, and a chance to explain better their side.

Its called a conversation (debate).

1+ You’re right. Sometimes the truth hurts and it’s better to sugar coat everything . Also, respect is earned not given . People have the right to their opinions & at the end of the day this is the internet. You’re gonna have people disagree & call it out how it is. I’m not going to continue going back & forth with people who are have difficulties realizing the truth . But thanks for your thoughts. I will sleep better at night now <3

I disagree that respect needs to be earned. I believe it should be given to everyone and that everyone deserves to be respected.

They may be able to lose respect later, calling people braindead or dense would be a good way to lose that respect, but to start with everyone should be given it and having a different opinion or enjoying something many dislike would not in the slightest be a reason to lose respect for someone. I only lose respect for people who bully, name call, troll or act in another disrepectful manner themselves.

It seems you don't realize what the word respect means.

Respect: a feeling of deep admiration for someone or something elicited by their abilities, qualities, or achievements.

This is earned not give by definition.

What you are describing is courtesy.

Courtesy: the showing of politeness in one's attitude and behavior toward others.
This should be given not earned.

I can be courteous to you without having respect for your opinions or position on a subject.
.

Well, aren't you a practitioner of technicality? Ok, fair enough. Lets play that game.

You do know that a dictionary is nothing more than a collection of generally accepted terms.... right? And NOT a bible of what is absolutely correct under that law?

"Respect" .... is an emotional activity.... such as love, compassion, hate, or contempt..... which may be freely given, or freely expected.

I haven't yet come across a book, including dictionaries you are citing, that suggest that "respect must be "earned", or in any way paid for.

I don't agree with your claim that "my" respect must be earned before I offer it to other people.

If you are someone who feels that "your" respect must be earned before being offered... fair enough. That's your choice. But don't explain your personal choice as being born from a generally accepted norm of social economic consensus.

The dictionary is the definition of words and and how they are used in the English language.
it is not a guide that you throw away because you want to use the word your way.
If you tried this line in a college English class you would fail.

But, I'm not going to argue this anymore. If you are fine with using the word the wrong way and believing that the English language is your to butcher as you see fit, have at it.

I'm sorry. Did someone teach you at some point in your life that the English language is subject to copyright laws? Language.... such as English, is constantly changing, and is constantly being examined and updated in the dictionaries we use to help us maintain a general interpretation.

It's ok to use a dictionary to keep up with generally accepted terms and definitions, but shouldn't be used as a tool to deny other cultural, or personal choices, especially when adopted in defense of other people's social well being.

To offer an example. The work "sick" in a dictionary would offer an interpretation relating to illness. But, a minority group.... such as a street gang, or perhaps someone of goth practices.... may use the word "sick" to mean something completely different.... despite what a dictionary might teach. (ie; wow, that song was sick)

There are many words in the English language that may be used, and generally accepted amongst minority groups as having a particular definition or interpretation which the dictionary of today may not represent or teach. As I suggested before, the dictionary isn't a bible of what is absolutely correct under the law. At best, it's just a guide to help us keep up with what is "generally accepted".

However, the issue here isn't a dictionary's shared content, explaining words such as "car", "guitar", "computer", or ideas such as "cat", "dog", "elephant", etc, etc......

..... You're using a dictionary to define, and explain "human emotion" and it's activities. To use a dictionary to suggest, or teach, that "love" (for example) should be earned, and not freely given, or that compassion should be earned, or hatred, or contempt..... or "respect".....

Again, i'm sorry, but even if you found a dictionary that suggested a generally accepted belief that any emotional activity should be earn, not just freely given... a dictionary (to explain again) isn't a book of laws and/or policies, I don't have to accept these beliefs.

Or... said another way....
.... Though a dictionary may attempt the task of defining the emotional activity of "respect" (or any other emotion). A dictionary isn't a court issued book of law telling us how that emotional activity must be exercised. We each, as individuals, have the personal freedom to choose how we treat other people.

If I choose to respect people, who did nothing to earn my respect, that's exactly what i'm going to do.... despite what your dictionary may teach in it's attempt to define the very emotional activity I am exercising.

In ending, I hope you continue to enjoy your dictionary.

The word for this is "slang".
As you said, while it is excepted by a minority group, it does not make it the definition of the word.

And even OEII1001 "Respect (for somebody/something) polite behavior toward or care for someone or something that you think is important. doesn't make it a mandatory thing for everyone.

I am in no way saying that you can't give blind respect to someone if you want, but this was in response to the OP (on respect) stating that you must give it as it is expected.

That said this is detracting from the main part of my post which I will repeat hear.

I happen to agree with LGR 100% on this review.
That said I didn't come to my decision not to by the SP just on his say so.
In fact I have not bought a EP/GP/SP for full price since Strangerville (P.S. Roosterteeth should sue for that one)
And have not bought a single SP since "My first pet".
I have also never bought "Toddler Stuff" due to most if not all of it being something that should have been in the base game

The reason for this is I refuse to open my wallet and give EA money for ripping us off.
This has been an ongoing theme with the Sims 4 of taking Sims 3 EP cutting out up to 70% of their content and selling them as as full EP with 30% of the Sims 3 content then selling the remaining content as SP or just leaving it out altogether.
This SP is more of the same "Here's the first of many watered-down hobby SP that could have been in a larger EP but we can make more money on them if we split them up".
As I believe was LGR's point in the review, EA has trained Simmers at this point to expect lackluster to downright bad content and be ecstatic when they get midland to OK content.
Overall, the content has in Sims 4 has ranged from better then average (For the Sims series) to downright bad. Yet most game-changers and a good deal of the Simmers praise it, while paying full price for half or less of the content.
The point I am making and I believe LGR was trying to convey, is that if we keep doing this EA will keep reducing content more and more.
And just to be clear, this is not just a problem with EA (though they are one of the top ones) it been happening all over gaming for a few years now.


So this one will be on the if it get down to 50%+ off I may buy it list.

"Tenchi2a;c-17607547" wrote:

"SimAlexandria;c-17599377" wrote:

"Justin;c-17599341" wrote:

"muzickmage;c-17598942" wrote:

"Justin;c-17598492" wrote:
Reading all these dense opinions defending this pack is a good laugh. They are totally missing the point that the ones who see what this game is becoming are trying to make .

Edited to not fancy anyone’s feelings ;)

I commonly disagree with opinions on this site (and others), and i'm not shy when it comes to confrontation. But at least I can say that I still treat people with respect. I can't say the same for you. Name calling ("brain dead"), and character labeling (being of... dense opinions) are attitudes I can't defend.

People, regardless of their opinions, are not "brain dead". Nor are their opinions "dense". Having you suggest otherwise, says more about you, than the people you are insulting.

Try creating a post explaining your issue with the comments..... what don't you agree with? Why do you think they are wrong? What exactly is your problem? Give people a chance to understand your side of the story, and a chance to explain better their side.

Its called a conversation (debate).

1+ You’re right. Sometimes the truth hurts and it’s better to sugar coat everything . Also, respect is earned not given . People have the right to their opinions & at the end of the day this is the internet. You’re gonna have people disagree & call it out how it is. I’m not going to continue going back & forth with people who are have difficulties realizing the truth . But thanks for your thoughts. I will sleep better at night now <3

I disagree that respect needs to be earned. I believe it should be given to everyone and that everyone deserves to be respected.

They may be able to lose respect later, calling people braindead or dense would be a good way to lose that respect, but to start with everyone should be given it and having a different opinion or enjoying something many dislike would not in the slightest be a reason to lose respect for someone. I only lose respect for people who bully, name call, troll or act in another disrepectful manner themselves.

It seems you don't realize what the word respect means.

Respect: a feeling of deep admiration for someone or something elicited by their abilities, qualities, or achievements.

This is earned not give by definition.

What you are describing is courtesy.

Courtesy: the showing of politeness in one's attitude and behavior toward others.
This should be given not earned.

I can be courteous to you without having respect for your opinions or position on a subject.

Now on to the response.
I happen to agree with LGR 100% on this review.
That said I didn't come to my decision not to by the SP just on his say so.
In fact I have not bought a EP/GP/SP for full price since Strangerville (P.S. Roosterteeth should sue for that one)
And have not bought a SP since "My first pet".

The reason for this is I refuse to open my wallet and give EA money for ripping us off.
This has been an ongoing theme with the Sims 4 of taking Sims 3 EP cutting out up to 70% of their content and selling them as as full EP with 30% of the Sims 3 content then selling the remaining content as SP or just leaving it out altogether.
This SP is more of the same "Here's the first of many watered-down hobby SP that could have been in a larger EP but we can make more money on them if we split them up".

So this one will be on the if it get down to 50%+ off I may buy it list.

I see that you took one definition of respect, while ignoring others. If you really want to look up the technical definition, right under the first one you googled it says "2. due regard for the feelings, wishes, rights, or traditions of others."

And yes, EVERYONE deserves respect (regard for their feelings and wishes etc) off the bat.

But okay let's go with igoring half the the definition and settle on your definition only... I still give admiration to someone based on their qualities from the get go, because I assume that they have good qualities until they have proven otherwise.

Respect should be given to everyone, and so should courtesy.

"muzickmage;c-17608337" wrote:
(In other news, it's rumored that somewhere on planet earth another cat may have gotten stuck in a tree. Again. This is just a rumor. Nobody panic.)

After reading people's comments about LGR's review, i'm not sure what the core argument is. Is it his opinion, or the way he chose to express it?

It's sometimes difficult to take someone serious, or see the message someone is trying to share when we are feeling insulted or discouraged by the way they may have shared that message. It's even worse when that message seems to contradict our own ideas.

People don't generally respond well to being told to change their mind. And most likely won't examine their own beliefs when the idea of doing so is being offered in a way that makes them uncomfortable.

So, i'm a bit curious here. What is the issue with LGR's review. His opinion, or the way he shared it?

I'm guessing that there isn't one core argument. Some people like him for his opinions, some for entertainment, and it's the same with people who don't enjoy the reviews. Different people have different reasons for not liking his reviews. For myself personally it's a mixture of reasons.

Even IF this is a first of a split up "hobby" pack... do you actually end up paying more? Really? Expansion packs are $40. 4 separate hobby packs then also equal $40... I'm not seeing this argument as valid. I think some people are forgetting that we voted on this. The community did this "money grab".

"Camkat;c-17608479" wrote:
Even IF this is a first of a split up "hobby" pack... do you actually end up paying more? Really? Expansion packs are $40. 4 separate hobby packs then also equal $40... I'm not seeing this argument as valid. I think some people are forgetting that we voted on this. The community did this "money grab".

@Camkat Again I'm sure if we had the option to choose if the Art and Crafts pack was going to be an expansion pack or a stuff pack I'm sure many would have chosen it to be a bigger pack. But you see they don't give us that option.

Also no. Free Time for example was a hobby pack and it didn't come with just 4 hobbies. It came with more. It also came with a new neighborhood, new aspirations, genies, a new "enthusiasm" system for hobbies (which made each sim have interest in different hobbies), new carreers, new NPCs, new foods, new video games, new TV channel and a new radio station.
So no, buying 4 stuff packs with a hobby each is not the same as buying an actual hobbies expansion pack.

"SimAlexandria;c-17608416" wrote:

"Tenchi2a;c-17607547" wrote:

"SimAlexandria;c-17599377" wrote:

"Justin;c-17599341" wrote:

"muzickmage;c-17598942" wrote:

"Justin;c-17598492" wrote:
Reading all these dense opinions defending this pack is a good laugh. They are totally missing the point that the ones who see what this game is becoming are trying to make .

Edited to not fancy anyone’s feelings ;)

I commonly disagree with opinions on this site (and others), and i'm not shy when it comes to confrontation. But at least I can say that I still treat people with respect. I can't say the same for you. Name calling ("brain dead"), and character labeling (being of... dense opinions) are attitudes I can't defend.

People, regardless of their opinions, are not "brain dead". Nor are their opinions "dense". Having you suggest otherwise, says more about you, than the people you are insulting.

Try creating a post explaining your issue with the comments..... what don't you agree with? Why do you think they are wrong? What exactly is your problem? Give people a chance to understand your side of the story, and a chance to explain better their side.

Its called a conversation (debate).

1+ You’re right. Sometimes the truth hurts and it’s better to sugar coat everything . Also, respect is earned not given . People have the right to their opinions & at the end of the day this is the internet. You’re gonna have people disagree & call it out how it is. I’m not going to continue going back & forth with people who are have difficulties realizing the truth . But thanks for your thoughts. I will sleep better at night now <3

I disagree that respect needs to be earned. I believe it should be given to everyone and that everyone deserves to be respected.

They may be able to lose respect later, calling people braindead or dense would be a good way to lose that respect, but to start with everyone should be given it and having a different opinion or enjoying something many dislike would not in the slightest be a reason to lose respect for someone. I only lose respect for people who bully, name call, troll or act in another disrepectful manner themselves.

It seems you don't realize what the word respect means.

Respect: a feeling of deep admiration for someone or something elicited by their abilities, qualities, or achievements.

This is earned not give by definition.

What you are describing is courtesy.

Courtesy: the showing of politeness in one's attitude and behavior toward others.
This should be given not earned.

I can be courteous to you without having respect for your opinions or position on a subject.

Now on to the response.
I happen to agree with LGR 100% on this review.
That said I didn't come to my decision not to by the SP just on his say so.
In fact I have not bought a EP/GP/SP for full price since Strangerville (P.S. Roosterteeth should sue for that one)
And have not bought a SP since "My first pet".

The reason for this is I refuse to open my wallet and give EA money for ripping us off.
This has been an ongoing theme with the Sims 4 of taking Sims 3 EP cutting out up to 70% of their content and selling them as as full EP with 30% of the Sims 3 content then selling the remaining content as SP or just leaving it out altogether.
This SP is more of the same "Here's the first of many watered-down hobby SP that could have been in a larger EP but we can make more money on them if we split them up".

So this one will be on the if it get down to 50%+ off I may buy it list.

I see that you took one definition of respect, while ignoring others. If you really want to look up the technical definition, right under the first one you googled it says "2. due regard for the feelings, wishes, rights, or traditions of others."

And yes, EVERYONE deserves respect (regard for their feelings and wishes etc) off the bat.

But okay let's go with igoring half the the definition and settle on your definition only... I still give admiration to someone based on their qualities from the get go, because I assume that they have good qualities until they have proven otherwise.

Respect should be given to everyone, and so should courtesy.

Funny outside of the two definition that have already been discussed
1.a feeling of deep admiration for someone or something elicited by their abilities, qualities, or achievements.
2. polite behavior toward or care for someone or something that you think is important.

The definition you provided only shows in two sources the LEXICO and the Stanford athletics association ethics site.
Neither are official scholastic dictionaries.

Again my point is that to me and most if not all people I have met in my 40+ years of life respect is earned and that will always be the case to me, but if you just want to give it out that's up to you.
Just don't go claiming that everyone needs to follow your example.

"Tenchi2a;c-17608636" wrote:

"SimAlexandria;c-17608416" wrote:

"Tenchi2a;c-17607547" wrote:

"SimAlexandria;c-17599377" wrote:

"Justin;c-17599341" wrote:

"muzickmage;c-17598942" wrote:

"Justin;c-17598492" wrote:
Reading all these dense opinions defending this pack is a good laugh. They are totally missing the point that the ones who see what this game is becoming are trying to make .

Edited to not fancy anyone’s feelings ;)

I commonly disagree with opinions on this site (and others), and i'm not shy when it comes to confrontation. But at least I can say that I still treat people with respect. I can't say the same for you. Name calling ("brain dead"), and character labeling (being of... dense opinions) are attitudes I can't defend.

People, regardless of their opinions, are not "brain dead". Nor are their opinions "dense". Having you suggest otherwise, says more about you, than the people you are insulting.

Try creating a post explaining your issue with the comments..... what don't you agree with? Why do you think they are wrong? What exactly is your problem? Give people a chance to understand your side of the story, and a chance to explain better their side.

Its called a conversation (debate).

1+ You’re right. Sometimes the truth hurts and it’s better to sugar coat everything . Also, respect is earned not given . People have the right to their opinions & at the end of the day this is the internet. You’re gonna have people disagree & call it out how it is. I’m not going to continue going back & forth with people who are have difficulties realizing the truth . But thanks for your thoughts. I will sleep better at night now <3

I disagree that respect needs to be earned. I believe it should be given to everyone and that everyone deserves to be respected.

They may be able to lose respect later, calling people braindead or dense would be a good way to lose that respect, but to start with everyone should be given it and having a different opinion or enjoying something many dislike would not in the slightest be a reason to lose respect for someone. I only lose respect for people who bully, name call, troll or act in another disrepectful manner themselves.

It seems you don't realize what the word respect means.

Respect: a feeling of deep admiration for someone or something elicited by their abilities, qualities, or achievements.

This is earned not give by definition.

What you are describing is courtesy.

Courtesy: the showing of politeness in one's attitude and behavior toward others.
This should be given not earned.

I can be courteous to you without having respect for your opinions or position on a subject.

Now on to the response.
I happen to agree with LGR 100% on this review.
That said I didn't come to my decision not to by the SP just on his say so.
In fact I have not bought a EP/GP/SP for full price since Strangerville (P.S. Roosterteeth should sue for that one)
And have not bought a SP since "My first pet".

The reason for this is I refuse to open my wallet and give EA money for ripping us off.
This has been an ongoing theme with the Sims 4 of taking Sims 3 EP cutting out up to 70% of their content and selling them as as full EP with 30% of the Sims 3 content then selling the remaining content as SP or just leaving it out altogether.
This SP is more of the same "Here's the first of many watered-down hobby SP that could have been in a larger EP but we can make more money on them if we split them up".

So this one will be on the if it get down to 50%+ off I may buy it list.

I see that you took one definition of respect, while ignoring others. If you really want to look up the technical definition, right under the first one you googled it says "2. due regard for the feelings, wishes, rights, or traditions of others."

And yes, EVERYONE deserves respect (regard for their feelings and wishes etc) off the bat.

But okay let's go with igoring half the the definition and settle on your definition only... I still give admiration to someone based on their qualities from the get go, because I assume that they have good qualities until they have proven otherwise.

Respect should be given to everyone, and so should courtesy.

Funny outside of the two definition that have already been discussed
1.a feeling of deep admiration for someone or something elicited by their abilities, qualities, or achievements.
2. polite behavior toward or care for someone or something that you think is important.

The definition you provided only shows in two sources the LEXICO and the Stanford athletics association ethics site.
Neither are official scholastic dictionaries.

Again my point is that to me and most if not all people I have met in my 40+ years of life respect is earned and that will always be the case to me, but if you just want to give it out that's up to you.
Just don't go claiming that everyone needs to follow your example.

Fair enough then. Have it your way. For you, i'll adopt your way of life.

You will get my respect when you earn it. Till then.... you will go without.

I would say ... have fun with that. But I trust you won't.

But then again. Treat others as you wish to be treated doesn't exist for you... so also fair enough.

For your peace of mind, I hope others don't adopt this attitude as well. Because i'm not sure how many other people's respect you've earned so far. And by your rules.... if you didn't earn it yet.... well. You know the story.

Social politics.... crazy game isn't it?