"Cinebar;c-17886555" wrote:
"GreenTurtle;c-17886551" wrote:
@Cinebar I absolutely get what you're saying. The focus on being able to make yourself is a lot. There are too many people and too many differences. It may not even be possible for the devs to reach that target where EVERYONE is able to make themselves.
The problem lies with the direction they've taken. The universe is no longer a 50ies American sitcom with aliens and cowplants. It's now: real people across the whole world. The scope has gotten too big. You can't have the whole world in a single game. Not even if that game runs for a hundred years. They're still going to miss something.
That said, at the very least the things they do include shouldn't be insulting. I'm glad things like the cauliflower hair are finally getting fixed.
Yes, the hair was horrible. But lately it seems we can't get past one article and or update without some new announcement about representation. Do you remember The Sims ? We just played and never thought about stuff like we have to think about now. We were never asked in zillion threads, how many gays, or trans or other races we played. It was oh, heck, my Sim is on fire! lol, how do I put that out! That's game play.
We never looked to see or count if there was a trans or black Sim in a trailer. It was just omg, it's the Sims! look at that crazy Sim, what are they doing? omg, they farted! Now, it's all about are you represented in The Sims? How does that representation make you feel? But if we are going to stay on this road then the game is failing to represent any one other than the things they brag about.
Why do people love the older games? Because there is no such requirements to meet those expectations. We could always create gay Sims, we could always play many diverse nations of peoples. We were not required by other players to state whether our game had a diverse population or not...we were the masters of our own Sims destinies and no one ran around saying how diverse they were and trying to prove it with pictures. It was just always omg my Sim is a pain, and or my Sim is hilarious and or my Sim is driving me crazy, and or my Sim is not smart and or my Sim just did this or that. That is why people play and love the older games, because representation was not the focus.
100 million percent this.
I’m in quite a few sims groups. Most of the Sims 2+3 groups discuss game play and new things they are discovering each day and share funny pictures.
In many sims 4 groups I’m in, they have dedicated threads of “Share your black sims here” “Share your trans sims here” Very little game play. Discussions are mostly around why multiplayer would be amazing and when they are going to add pronouns or disabilities next. Its very representation centred. And that’s not a bad thing, I just don’t think representation should be the focus of this game. It should play a part but that shouldn’t be the selling point.
I agree with the poster who said it’s advertising. Lazy advertising when they advertise a lesbian couple and don’t even make the effort to actually make them in a relationship. Players downloading the two girls will find the sims mean nothing to each other. It’s like EA went down a tick sheet when creating the new art work and just included it for the the sake of it to make themselves look good.
A former community manager has repeatedly said the games target audience is teenage girls “who don’t like bullying”, who aspire to buy Moschino products (not a joke) and basically have rich parents.
Link to the teenage girl comments.I expect Drake has deleted the teenage girls and Moschino tweets long ago.
https://simsvip.com/2017/09/03/pax-west-simgurudrake-talks-managing-sims-community/
The newest CM has also said the game is a safe space for learning and growing. The game is very much about representation with game play way at the bottom of the pile.
