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wiccanwonder
6 years ago

Mermaid/Vampire hybrid problem

I have a mermaid/vampire hybrid. She's the in game born daughter of Caleb and my CAS mermaid.
She has the abilities of both. She has both the vampire energy and hydration needs but the games shows her as mermaid, she has the tail icon and the mermaid plumbob. The problem is that she has no access to her vampire points or powers. I've checked all tabs in case they were moved somewhere else but no, nothing.
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  • annaliese39's avatar
    annaliese39
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    6 years ago
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    Alien-vampire hybrids are buggy in CAS, but not unplayable. I don't have Island Living yet so I can't be sure about mermaid-vampire hybrids, but I'm guessing it's similar? Regardless, I wouldn't let this stop you pairing mermaids and vampires (I already have plans for one of my vampires catching the eye of a cute little mermaid). Their children won't necessarily be hybrids and even if they are then I don't see why you can't just remove either the mermaid or vampire trait or even make them human if you wish. Nothing should stand in the way of love!
  • wiccanwonder's avatar
    wiccanwonder
    6 years ago
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    "annaliese39;c-17133071" wrote:
    Alien-vampire hybrids are buggy in CAS, but not unplayable. I don't have Island Living yet so I can't be sure about mermaid-vampire hybrids, but I'm guessing it's similar? Regardless, I wouldn't let this stop you pairing mermaids and vampires (I already have plans for one of my vampires catching the eye of a cute little mermaid). Their children won't necessarily be hybrids and even if they are then I don't see why you can't just remove either the mermaid or vampire trait or even make them human if you wish. Nothing should stand in the way of love!

    I fixed the vanishing face by removing a conflicting mod so even though I can't alter her mermaid form she's still playable as a mermaid. I'll just have to accept I can't spend her vampire points so she won't be able to use any different movement forms or use any abilities that require points. She can feed and use dark meditation. She'll just have to be a fledgling forever.
  • mmfinch's avatar
    mmfinch
    6 years ago
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    My vampire and mermaid had a baby and the baby had the mermaid needs icon. However, when the toddler aged up to child I went into CAS to modify their hair. There is a split icon for the alternate form like a hybrid alien/vampire. Choosing one or the other changes the base looks of the Sim (just like alien/vampire does) and the main form and "dark" form do not link to each other and have to be modified separately. The Sim is not classified as a vampire or mermaid under CAS though the mermaid needs icon is still there in play mode. I assume it will be the same as simm621's hybrid, but I'll update later when there is more info. As the two have more children it will be interesting to find out what the percentage chances of having a hybrid are.
  • Sarabeth6701d's avatar
    Sarabeth6701d
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    6 years ago
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    I had the same problem. I found that the vamp/mermaids hybrid with tails are very glitchy. I delete them. However, I have 2 hybrids in my game who have the mermaid powers/socials and vampire powers but do not have a tail. They lack the vampire powers tree but have hydration, vampire energy, and thirst on needs bar. I had to cheat to get sun proof, command powers etc. Google Sims 4 Vampire Cheats for the website. Its awesome.
    I also cheated last night and gave one of them the witch occult trait. She was originally born between a mermaid and vampire couple naturally in game. However she's become my guinea pig. She has mermaid powers, some vampire powers and needs like thirst and energy. Her spellcaster power tree is there and functioning. I was so excited. I plan on experimenting with her to see if glitches happen. I can post pics tonite after work!
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    Smellincoffee
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    6 years ago
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    "Writin_Reg;c-17133019" wrote:
    "EgonVM;c-17132862" wrote:
    "izecson;c-17132853" wrote:
    What mess? I thought how sims 3 handled hybrid was awesome, I made vamp-werewolf with no problem whatsoever.


    I thought The Sims 3 also tried to prevent hybrids. The Sims 2 didn't.


    Yep the sims 2 was technically the only hybrids we actually had in programming.


    Not ALL hybrids were permissible in Sims 2, though. Vampires and PlantSims were incompatible, I believe.


    (For obvious reasons. :lol: "I need sun! Oh god it burns! It burns! Back inside! ooooh, but I need sun! I need it so badly! AAAAAAA! *poof*)
  • Writin_Reg's avatar
    Writin_Reg
    6 years ago
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    "Smellincoffee;c-17252781" wrote:
    "Writin_Reg;c-17133019" wrote:
    "EgonVM;c-17132862" wrote:
    "izecson;c-17132853" wrote:
    What mess? I thought how sims 3 handled hybrid was awesome, I made vamp-werewolf with no problem whatsoever.


    I thought The Sims 3 also tried to prevent hybrids. The Sims 2 didn't.


    Yep the sims 2 was technically the only hybrids we actually had in programming.


    Not ALL hybrids were permissible in Sims 2, though. Vampires and PlantSims were incompatible, I believe.


    (For obvious reasons. :lol: "I need sun! Oh god it burns! It burns! Back inside! ooooh, but I need sun! I need it so badly! AAAAAAA! *poof*)


    In Sims 2 Plant Sims were different and did not have life stages of the rest of the Sims - they had 2- toddler AND ADULT - so they could not really be compared to any other "monsters" - they were one of a kind and not really compatible to any other species. They were never hybrids without mods or cheats and even with mods or cheats created a lot of issues in the game.
  • Treborlefou3's avatar
    Treborlefou3
    6 years ago
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    "Smellincoffee;c-17252781" wrote:
    "Writin_Reg;c-17133019" wrote:
    "EgonVM;c-17132862" wrote:
    "izecson;c-17132853" wrote:
    What mess? I thought how sims 3 handled hybrid was awesome, I made vamp-werewolf with no problem whatsoever.


    I thought The Sims 3 also tried to prevent hybrids. The Sims 2 didn't.


    Yep the sims 2 was technically the only hybrids we actually had in programming.


    Not ALL hybrids were permissible in Sims 2, though. Vampires and PlantSims were incompatible, I believe.


    (For obvious reasons. :lol: "I need sun! Oh god it burns! It burns! Back inside! ooooh, but I need sun! I need it so badly! AAAAAAA! *poof*)


    You could still have them. I have quite a few. You just need to light the house with sunlamps and put one above their coffin.

    "Writin_Reg;c-17252791" wrote:
    "Smellincoffee;c-17252781" wrote:
    "Writin_Reg;c-17133019" wrote:
    "EgonVM;c-17132862" wrote:
    "izecson;c-17132853" wrote:
    What mess? I thought how sims 3 handled hybrid was awesome, I made vamp-werewolf with no problem whatsoever.


    I thought The Sims 3 also tried to prevent hybrids. The Sims 2 didn't.


    Yep the sims 2 was technically the only hybrids we actually had in programming.


    Not ALL hybrids were permissible in Sims 2, though. Vampires and PlantSims were incompatible, I believe.


    (For obvious reasons. :lol: "I need sun! Oh god it burns! It burns! Back inside! ooooh, but I need sun! I need it so badly! AAAAAAA! *poof*)


    In Sims 2 Plant Sims were different and did not have life stages of the rest of the Sims - they had 2- toddler AND ADULT - so they could not really be compared to any other "monsters" - they were one of a kind and not really compatible to any other species. They were never hybrids without mods or cheats and even with mods or cheats created a lot of issues in the game.


    It caused issues? I had plantsims hybrids where they were everything but a servo or a bigfoot.
  • RouenSims's avatar
    RouenSims
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    6 years ago
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    My merman was abducted and gave birth to twins. I haven't aged them up yet from toddlers, but their needs dialogue box keeps changing. Sometimes it shows them as mermaids and sometimes not.
  • SilentK008's avatar
    SilentK008
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    6 years ago
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    "kalaksed;c-17303407" wrote:
    yup, many of the dual-occult hybrids are quite messy, since every one (minus alien) has different needs, all except spellcaster have two forms, and casters and vampires both have 'points' they need to earn/spend

    it kind of looks like the mermaid's swapping to land-based form is based on the hydration need, since pairing them with any other occult removes the hydration need and they're able to swap to merform easily enough, but with one exception, cannot swap back out of merform.
    that exception, if interested, is an alien/mermaid... whatever form they're in, the alien changes to the other one to go to 'merform', though the alien form will have a tail (the disguise form will not) and they'll swap to or stay in disguise form when move back to land. when you swap them to alien form on land, they'll have their legs just fine. ...but, they'll be all kinds of borked in alien form in cas, since it'll have their lower half invisible and unable to be edited or have clothing changed (and if you had a fullbody outfit on them, it'll be everything other than head invisible)

    vampire/spellcasters also have the issue of only seeing the spellcaster points earned instead of vampire ones (...this didn't bother me so much, as the only vampire i wanted to also be a caster already had all the vampire powers learned, with like 3 exceptions i didn't want for her. however, her new daughter is both a caster and a vampire... so that'll prove fun...)
    interestingly, the only occult that pairs nicely with spellcaster without breaking anything is, again, alien... since aliens don't have any unique needs and spellcasters don't have a secondary form. i've got a pair of these in my game and actually enjoy them quite a bit


    Thank you.

    Oki, so Alien+spellcaster is ok but other than that I will probably let one of the sims go un-occult before hooking up since I don’t want glitchy sims.

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I don't have Island Living yet so I can't be sure about mermaid-vampire hybrids, but I'm guessing it's similar? Regardless, I wouldn't let this stop you pairing mermaids and vampires (I already have plans for one of my vampires catching the eye of a cute little mermaid). Their children won't necessarily be hybrids and even if they are then I don't see why you can't just remove either the mermaid or vampire trait or even make them human if you wish. 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Regardless, I wouldn't let this stop you pairing mermaids and vampires (I already have plans for one of my vampires catching the eye of a cute little mermaid). Their children won't necessarily be hybrids and even if they are then I don't see why you can't just remove either the mermaid or vampire trait or even make them human if you wish. Nothing should stand in the way of love! 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\"annaliese39;c-17133071\" wrote:
Alien-vampire hybrids are buggy in CAS, but not unplayable. I don't have Island Living yet so I can't be sure about mermaid-vampire hybrids, but I'm guessing it's similar? Regardless, I wouldn't let this stop you pairing mermaids and vampires (I already have plans for one of my vampires catching the eye of a cute little mermaid). Their children won't necessarily be hybrids and even if they are then I don't see why you can't just remove either the mermaid or vampire trait or even make them human if you wish. Nothing should stand in the way of love!

I fixed the vanishing face by removing a conflicting mod so even though I can't alter her mermaid form she's still playable as a mermaid. I'll just have to accept I can't spend her vampire points so she won't be able to use any different movement forms or use any abilities that require points. She can feed and use dark meditation. She'll just have to be a fledgling forever.
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\"annaliese39;c-17133071\" wrote:
Alien-vampire hybrids are buggy in CAS, but not unplayable. I don't have Island Living yet so I can't be sure about mermaid-vampire hybrids, but I'm guessing it's similar? Regardless, I wouldn't let this stop you pairing mermaids and vampires (I already have plans for one of my vampires catching the eye of a cute little mermaid). Their children won't necessarily be hybrids and even if they are then I don't see why you can't just remove either the mermaid or vampire trait or even make them human if you wish. Nothing should stand in the way of love!

I fixed the vanishing face by removing a conflicting mod so even though I can't alter her mermaid form she's still playable as a mermaid. I'll just have to accept I can't spend her vampire points so she won't be able to use any different movement forms or use any abilities that require points. She can feed and use dark meditation. She'll just have to be a fledgling forever.
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However, when the toddler aged up to child I went into CAS to modify their hair. There is a split icon for the alternate form like a hybrid alien/vampire. Choosing one or the other changes the base looks of the Sim (just like alien/vampire does) and the main form and \"dark\" form do not link to each other and have to be modified separately. The Sim is not classified as a vampire or mermaid under CAS though the mermaid needs icon is still there in play mode. I assume it will be the same as simm621's hybrid, but I'll update later when there is more info. 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However, when the toddler aged up to child I went into CAS to modify their hair. There is a split icon for the alternate form like a hybrid alien/vampire. Choosing one or the other changes the base looks of the Sim (just like alien/vampire does) and the main form and \"dark\" form do not link to each other and have to be modified separately. The Sim is not classified as a vampire or mermaid under CAS though the mermaid needs icon is still there in play mode. I assume it will be the same as simm621's hybrid, but I'll update later when there is more info. 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I found that the vamp/mermaids hybrid with tails are very glitchy. I delete them. However, I have 2 hybrids in my game who have the mermaid powers/socials and vampire powers but do not have a tail. They lack the vampire powers tree but have hydration, vampire energy, and thirst on needs bar. I had to cheat to get sun proof, command powers etc. Google Sims 4 Vampire Cheats for the website. Its awesome.
I also cheated last night and gave one of them the witch occult trait. She was originally born between a mermaid and vampire couple naturally in game. However she's become my guinea pig. She has mermaid powers, some vampire powers and needs like thirst and energy. Her spellcaster power tree is there and functioning. I was so excited. I plan on experimenting with her to see if glitches happen. I can post pics tonite after work!
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I also cheated last night and gave one of them the witch occult trait. She was originally born between a mermaid and vampire couple naturally in game. However she's become my guinea pig. She has mermaid powers, some vampire powers and needs like thirst and energy. Her spellcaster power tree is there and functioning. I was so excited. I plan on experimenting with her to see if glitches happen. I can post pics tonite after work!
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\"Writin_Reg;c-17133019\" wrote:
\"EgonVM;c-17132862\" wrote:
\"izecson;c-17132853\" wrote:
What mess? I thought how sims 3 handled hybrid was awesome, I made vamp-werewolf with no problem whatsoever.


I thought The Sims 3 also tried to prevent hybrids. The Sims 2 didn't.


Yep the sims 2 was technically the only hybrids we actually had in programming.


Not ALL hybrids were permissible in Sims 2, though. Vampires and PlantSims were incompatible, I believe.


(For obvious reasons. :lol: \"I need sun! Oh god it burns! It burns! Back inside! ooooh, but I need sun! I need it so badly! AAAAAAA! *poof*)","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":1,"postTime":"2019-09-18T06:48:23.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2019-09-18T06:48:23.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":6},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:the-sims-4-en/category:the-sims-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en/message:2165444/message:2165459","repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"735","rawBody":"
\"Writin_Reg;c-17133019\" wrote:
\"EgonVM;c-17132862\" wrote:
\"izecson;c-17132853\" wrote:
What mess? I thought how sims 3 handled hybrid was awesome, I made vamp-werewolf with no problem whatsoever.


I thought The Sims 3 also tried to prevent hybrids. The Sims 2 didn't.


Yep the sims 2 was technically the only hybrids we actually had in programming.


Not ALL hybrids were permissible in Sims 2, though. Vampires and PlantSims were incompatible, I believe.


(For obvious reasons. :lol: \"I need sun! Oh god it burns! It burns! Back inside! ooooh, but I need sun! I need it so badly! AAAAAAA! *poof*)","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2165459_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:123690":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:123690","uid":123690,"login":"Writin_Reg","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2009-06-05T00:42:11.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://forums.ea.com/t5/s/tghpe58374/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-1.svg?time=1721239493000"},"rank":null,"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:tghpe58374/user:123690"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2165460":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2165460","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2165460":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:123690"},"id":"message:2165460","revisionNum":1,"uid":2165460,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2165444"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2165444"},"subject":"Re: Mermaid/Vampire hybrid problem","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2165460"},"body":"
\"Smellincoffee;c-17252781\" wrote:
\"Writin_Reg;c-17133019\" wrote:
\"EgonVM;c-17132862\" wrote:
\"izecson;c-17132853\" wrote:
What mess? I thought how sims 3 handled hybrid was awesome, I made vamp-werewolf with no problem whatsoever.


I thought The Sims 3 also tried to prevent hybrids. The Sims 2 didn't.


Yep the sims 2 was technically the only hybrids we actually had in programming.


Not ALL hybrids were permissible in Sims 2, though. Vampires and PlantSims were incompatible, I believe.


(For obvious reasons. :lol: \"I need sun! Oh god it burns! It burns! Back inside! ooooh, but I need sun! I need it so badly! AAAAAAA! *poof*)


In Sims 2 Plant Sims were different and did not have life stages of the rest of the Sims - they had 2- toddler AND ADULT - so they could not really be compared to any other \"monsters\" - they were one of a kind and not really compatible to any other species. They were never hybrids without mods or cheats and even with mods or cheats created a lot of issues in the game.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2019-09-18T07:12:35.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2019-09-18T07:12:35.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:the-sims-4-en/category:the-sims-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en/message:2165444/message:2165460","repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1181","rawBody":"
\"Smellincoffee;c-17252781\" wrote:
\"Writin_Reg;c-17133019\" wrote:
\"EgonVM;c-17132862\" wrote:
\"izecson;c-17132853\" wrote:
What mess? I thought how sims 3 handled hybrid was awesome, I made vamp-werewolf with no problem whatsoever.


I thought The Sims 3 also tried to prevent hybrids. The Sims 2 didn't.


Yep the sims 2 was technically the only hybrids we actually had in programming.


Not ALL hybrids were permissible in Sims 2, though. Vampires and PlantSims were incompatible, I believe.


(For obvious reasons. :lol: \"I need sun! Oh god it burns! It burns! Back inside! ooooh, but I need sun! I need it so badly! AAAAAAA! *poof*)


In Sims 2 Plant Sims were different and did not have life stages of the rest of the Sims - they had 2- toddler AND ADULT - so they could not really be compared to any other \"monsters\" - they were one of a kind and not really compatible to any other species. They were never hybrids without mods or cheats and even with mods or cheats created a lot of issues in the game.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2165460_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:81353":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:81353","uid":81353,"login":"Treborlefou3","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2010-03-18T17:23:26.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://forums.ea.com/t5/s/tghpe58374/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-12.svg?time=1721239731000"},"rank":null,"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:tghpe58374/user:81353"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2165461":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2165461","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2165461":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:81353"},"id":"message:2165461","revisionNum":1,"uid":2165461,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2165444"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2165444"},"subject":"Re: Mermaid/Vampire hybrid problem","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2165461"},"body":"
\"Smellincoffee;c-17252781\" wrote:
\"Writin_Reg;c-17133019\" wrote:
\"EgonVM;c-17132862\" wrote:
\"izecson;c-17132853\" wrote:
What mess? I thought how sims 3 handled hybrid was awesome, I made vamp-werewolf with no problem whatsoever.


I thought The Sims 3 also tried to prevent hybrids. The Sims 2 didn't.


Yep the sims 2 was technically the only hybrids we actually had in programming.


Not ALL hybrids were permissible in Sims 2, though. Vampires and PlantSims were incompatible, I believe.


(For obvious reasons. :lol: \"I need sun! Oh god it burns! It burns! Back inside! ooooh, but I need sun! I need it so badly! AAAAAAA! *poof*)


You could still have them. I have quite a few. You just need to light the house with sunlamps and put one above their coffin.

\"Writin_Reg;c-17252791\" wrote:
\"Smellincoffee;c-17252781\" wrote:
\"Writin_Reg;c-17133019\" wrote:
\"EgonVM;c-17132862\" wrote:
\"izecson;c-17132853\" wrote:
What mess? I thought how sims 3 handled hybrid was awesome, I made vamp-werewolf with no problem whatsoever.


I thought The Sims 3 also tried to prevent hybrids. The Sims 2 didn't.


Yep the sims 2 was technically the only hybrids we actually had in programming.


Not ALL hybrids were permissible in Sims 2, though. Vampires and PlantSims were incompatible, I believe.


(For obvious reasons. :lol: \"I need sun! Oh god it burns! It burns! Back inside! ooooh, but I need sun! I need it so badly! AAAAAAA! *poof*)


In Sims 2 Plant Sims were different and did not have life stages of the rest of the Sims - they had 2- toddler AND ADULT - so they could not really be compared to any other \"monsters\" - they were one of a kind and not really compatible to any other species. They were never hybrids without mods or cheats and even with mods or cheats created a lot of issues in the game.


It caused issues? I had plantsims hybrids where they were everything but a servo or a bigfoot.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":1,"postTime":"2019-09-18T13:48:53.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2019-09-18T13:48:53.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:the-sims-4-en/category:the-sims-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en/message:2165444/message:2165461","repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"2296","rawBody":"
\"Smellincoffee;c-17252781\" wrote:
\"Writin_Reg;c-17133019\" wrote:
\"EgonVM;c-17132862\" wrote:
\"izecson;c-17132853\" wrote:
What mess? I thought how sims 3 handled hybrid was awesome, I made vamp-werewolf with no problem whatsoever.


I thought The Sims 3 also tried to prevent hybrids. The Sims 2 didn't.


Yep the sims 2 was technically the only hybrids we actually had in programming.


Not ALL hybrids were permissible in Sims 2, though. Vampires and PlantSims were incompatible, I believe.


(For obvious reasons. :lol: \"I need sun! Oh god it burns! It burns! Back inside! ooooh, but I need sun! I need it so badly! AAAAAAA! *poof*)


You could still have them. I have quite a few. You just need to light the house with sunlamps and put one above their coffin.

\"Writin_Reg;c-17252791\" wrote:
\"Smellincoffee;c-17252781\" wrote:
\"Writin_Reg;c-17133019\" wrote:
\"EgonVM;c-17132862\" wrote:
\"izecson;c-17132853\" wrote:
What mess? I thought how sims 3 handled hybrid was awesome, I made vamp-werewolf with no problem whatsoever.


I thought The Sims 3 also tried to prevent hybrids. The Sims 2 didn't.


Yep the sims 2 was technically the only hybrids we actually had in programming.


Not ALL hybrids were permissible in Sims 2, though. Vampires and PlantSims were incompatible, I believe.


(For obvious reasons. :lol: \"I need sun! Oh god it burns! It burns! Back inside! ooooh, but I need sun! I need it so badly! AAAAAAA! *poof*)


In Sims 2 Plant Sims were different and did not have life stages of the rest of the Sims - they had 2- toddler AND ADULT - so they could not really be compared to any other \"monsters\" - they were one of a kind and not really compatible to any other species. They were never hybrids without mods or cheats and even with mods or cheats created a lot of issues in the game.


It caused issues? I had plantsims hybrids where they were everything but a servo or a bigfoot.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":2,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2165461_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:216577":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:216577","uid":216577,"login":"RouenSims","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2018-03-02T20:33:32.432-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://forums.ea.com/t5/s/tghpe58374/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-2.svg?time=1721239509000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:13"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:tghpe58374/user:216577"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2165462":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2165462","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2165462":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:216577"},"id":"message:2165462","revisionNum":1,"uid":2165462,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2165444"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2165444"},"subject":"Re: Mermaid/Vampire hybrid problem","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2165462"},"body":"My merman was abducted and gave birth to twins. I haven't aged them up yet from toddlers, but their needs dialogue box keeps changing. Sometimes it shows them as mermaids and sometimes not.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"189","kudosSumWeight":1,"postTime":"2019-09-21T10:47:11.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2019-09-21T10:47:11.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":1},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:the-sims-4-en/category:the-sims-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en/message:2165444/message:2165462","repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"189","rawBody":"My merman was abducted and gave birth to twins. I haven't aged them up yet from toddlers, but their needs dialogue box keeps changing. Sometimes it shows them as mermaids and sometimes not. 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\"kalaksed;c-17303407\" wrote:
yup, many of the dual-occult hybrids are quite messy, since every one (minus alien) has different needs, all except spellcaster have two forms, and casters and vampires both have 'points' they need to earn/spend

it kind of looks like the mermaid's swapping to land-based form is based on the hydration need, since pairing them with any other occult removes the hydration need and they're able to swap to merform easily enough, but with one exception, cannot swap back out of merform.
that exception, if interested, is an alien/mermaid... whatever form they're in, the alien changes to the other one to go to 'merform', though the alien form will have a tail (the disguise form will not) and they'll swap to or stay in disguise form when move back to land. when you swap them to alien form on land, they'll have their legs just fine. ...but, they'll be all kinds of borked in alien form in cas, since it'll have their lower half invisible and unable to be edited or have clothing changed (and if you had a fullbody outfit on them, it'll be everything other than head invisible)

vampire/spellcasters also have the issue of only seeing the spellcaster points earned instead of vampire ones (...this didn't bother me so much, as the only vampire i wanted to also be a caster already had all the vampire powers learned, with like 3 exceptions i didn't want for her. however, her new daughter is both a caster and a vampire... so that'll prove fun...)
interestingly, the only occult that pairs nicely with spellcaster without breaking anything is, again, alien... since aliens don't have any unique needs and spellcasters don't have a secondary form. i've got a pair of these in my game and actually enjoy them quite a bit


Thank you.

Oki, so Alien+spellcaster is ok but other than that I will probably let one of the sims go un-occult before hooking up since I don’t want glitchy sims.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2019-11-07T21:31:59.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2019-11-07T21:31:59.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:the-sims-4-en/category:the-sims-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en/message:2165444/message:2165463","repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1993","rawBody":"
\"kalaksed;c-17303407\" wrote:
yup, many of the dual-occult hybrids are quite messy, since every one (minus alien) has different needs, all except spellcaster have two forms, and casters and vampires both have 'points' they need to earn/spend

it kind of looks like the mermaid's swapping to land-based form is based on the hydration need, since pairing them with any other occult removes the hydration need and they're able to swap to merform easily enough, but with one exception, cannot swap back out of merform.
that exception, if interested, is an alien/mermaid... whatever form they're in, the alien changes to the other one to go to 'merform', though the alien form will have a tail (the disguise form will not) and they'll swap to or stay in disguise form when move back to land. when you swap them to alien form on land, they'll have their legs just fine. ...but, they'll be all kinds of borked in alien form in cas, since it'll have their lower half invisible and unable to be edited or have clothing changed (and if you had a fullbody outfit on them, it'll be everything other than head invisible)

vampire/spellcasters also have the issue of only seeing the spellcaster points earned instead of vampire ones (...this didn't bother me so much, as the only vampire i wanted to also be a caster already had all the vampire powers learned, with like 3 exceptions i didn't want for her. however, her new daughter is both a caster and a vampire... so that'll prove fun...)
interestingly, the only occult that pairs nicely with spellcaster without breaking anything is, again, alien... since aliens don't have any unique needs and spellcasters don't have a secondary form. i've got a pair of these in my game and actually enjoy them quite a bit


Thank you.

Oki, so Alien+spellcaster is ok but other than that I will probably let one of the sims go un-occult before hooking up since I don’t want glitchy 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