Next Expansion Speculation?

"EA_Cade;c-17998051" wrote:

"Amapola76;c-17998030" wrote:

"Gordy;c-17997984" wrote:

"EA_Cade;c-17997958" wrote:

Can you elaborate on what features you were hoping for that you haven't seen as of yet? I'm more than happy to pass feedback up the chain.

Amapola, say dragons. Tell them you hope to see dragons.

I... actually do? I mean, I have to be completely honest, it's not on my top ten, or probably even my top twenty list, but yes, I would greatly enjoy dragons.

@EA_Cade, I appreciate the responsiveness, truly, but I think you guys are probably pretty well aware already of the most requested items from the community that we haven't seen yet. Several have been mentioned already in this thread.

I mean, just off the top of my head, I would personally love to see at least a couple more of the main occults (werewolves and fairies), horses, more non-US worlds, open swimming in all worlds, underwater swimming/diving, a better system for college households so that our sims can go to school with friends and relatives, more options for babies, better family trees, bands/more music options, more after school options for kids, more romance options, more likes/dislikes, a better memory system, hotels, cars, bicycles for kids (along with generally more options for kids to engage in gameplay that they have been able to do in previous versions but have been locked out of in TS4), sculpting/glass blowing, open neighborhoods, slightly bigger worlds, nectar making, create a world, etc.

This is not an exhaustive list, but these are probably the bigger things that come immediately to my mind. I could go on and on with lists of individual items that I'd like to see (working tea set/table, tree house, etc.). The problem is, I expect some of these features are things we will hopefully see eventually. Others, I don't think we will ever get in this version of the game.

Hey thanks for taking the time to type that out, I appreciate it.

Part of my role here is to collate feedback for various teams who are interested in what you all have to say about features and content and it's so much easier to get a feel for what's going on when we can strike up a dialogue like this.

I obviously can't speak to unannounced content, but this is the type of feedback that really helps us find the content people want to see.

And dragons.

Oh, I can't believe I forgot this, as it's something we've discussed it often on the forums, but I don't think I've noticed it on the team's radar at all: newspapers and landlines. We really miss those. Particularly newspapers, which we thought might return with EL, as they would have been ideal for recycling. Newspapers were the perfect starter item in older versions of the game. You could increase your fun and logic with the crossword, look for a job, or just read it. For simmers who want to recycle, it's a great source of material. For slob sims, or simmers who are trying to create dark, dystopian, dirty worlds, old piled up newspapers are a great way to set the look. For those who don't want them, there could be an option to cancel newspaper service (either by calling to cancel and/or having a toggle).

Maybe they could return in a retro kit, perhaps with a couple of other old school sims items? If it also came with the option to get rid of cell phones or turn off cell phone functionality, that would be even better, since many of us still try to create historical saves.

"EA_Cade;c-17997958" wrote:

"Amapola76;c-17997952" wrote:

"Simmerville;c-17997944" wrote:

"Peral;c-17997892" wrote:

"crocobaura;c-17997870" wrote:
They said before that they don't announce paid DLC during Inside Maxis 411 podcasts. They may still announce a pack later next month.

Which make me think Sims 5 is knocking on the door, I don't think they will release a new Sims 4 pack as well as Sims 5. That would split their customers to much, they want their customers starving for something new otherwise they are just not making any money

Well, this customer will not at all starve for TS5, so if they want more o my money they will need to produce TS4 packs ;)

Agreed. It will be a cold day in hell before I buy TS5. Especially if it's heavily multiplayer-focused. But even if it's not, I bought (and bought into) TS4 with the expectation and understanding that I would ultimately see certain features. I'm too far in to TS4 to quit now, but I have learned my lesson. I'm not giving TS5 the benefit of the doubt; it will have to be out at least five years before I'm ready to give it a try, and that's only if it looks like they're doing a good job at that point. There are too many other places I can put my time and money.

Can you elaborate on what features you were hoping for that you haven't seen as of yet? I'm more than happy to pass feedback up the chain.

For sims 5 I hope to see
- most importantly give occults the attention they deserve. We didn't have an occult lifestate since 2019, in sims 2 and 3 we would get an occult with every EP, so one or two occults per year. I was so disappointed to find out sims 4 stopped that tradition.
- attention for all ages (don't leave out toddlers again, babies are persons, not objects ), how about a private school in base game?
- the freedom to edit the world/neighbourhood and add lots like we could in sims 2 and 3.
- meaningful gameplay like traits that matter, whims/wishes and fears based on personality and a memory system (I loved the sims 2 version)
- options. Allow us to tweak the game to our needs and allow us to choose if we want story progression, occults,...

I think the reception of the initial version of sims 4 gives a good idea of what simmers want. A new version of the base game should be an improvement on the last base game. Both sims 2 and 3 included much of the previous base games with additional features as well. They felt like a step forward. Sims 5 should be that as well.

@EA_Cade

I don't want to be that person and start to describe another wishlist, but I have to say that this forum is full of creative ideas.

Here is some of my general topics:
Del Sol Valley - number of lots
Which world needs to be improved the most
Base Game textures to update
Shells update
Swatches
New commertial world
Let's talk about kitchens...

CC implementation for consoles - idea


My ideas for a new expansions:
On The Catwalk
Welcome to Family
Retro

I need to add that we also need the possibility to choose how many townies we would like to have per loading screen.

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On the second hand I'm surprised that people still want to have TS5. I don't want to wait for the essential packs 5th time. Maybe I'm too old but I'm fine if EA will be improving and patching TS4 for the next 10 years.

"Sthenastia;c-17998204" wrote:

On the second hand I'm surprised that people still want to have TS5. I don't want to wait for the essential packs 5th time. Maybe I'm too old but I'm fine if EA will be improving and patching TS4 for the next 10 years.

I bought the game back in 2014 and have played it back and forth for 7 years. Any expansions or improvements will only add to to the core base game that I have played for 7 years, it will just be small variants of the same stories that I have played with, the bigger changes that limited me when I played the game will still be there.

When you have played a game for so long, everything starts to feel the same, sims are just slightly edited models, jobs are just the same rabbit holes, houses are just the same houses with some new build items, gameplay are just the same, the worlds are the same.

I'm fine with TS4 not having every feature available, especially since I feel that some of them during these 7 years have just been slight variants of the same thing.

"EA_Cade;c-17997958" wrote:

"Amapola76;c-17997952" wrote:

"Simmerville;c-17997944" wrote:

"Peral;c-17997892" wrote:

"crocobaura;c-17997870" wrote:
They said before that they don't announce paid DLC during Inside Maxis 411 podcasts. They may still announce a pack later next month.

Which make me think Sims 5 is knocking on the door, I don't think they will release a new Sims 4 pack as well as Sims 5. That would split their customers to much, they want their customers starving for something new otherwise they are just not making any money

Well, this customer will not at all starve for TS5, so if they want more o my money they will need to produce TS4 packs ;)

Agreed. It will be a cold day in hell before I buy TS5. Especially if it's heavily multiplayer-focused. But even if it's not, I bought (and bought into) TS4 with the expectation and understanding that I would ultimately see certain features. I'm too far in to TS4 to quit now, but I have learned my lesson. I'm not giving TS5 the benefit of the doubt; it will have to be out at least five years before I'm ready to give it a try, and that's only if it looks like they're doing a good job at that point. There are too many other places I can put my time and money.

Can you elaborate on what features you were hoping for that you haven't seen as of yet? I'm more than happy to pass feedback up the chain.

It's really what I feel myself about sims 4 and a future sims 5. Sims 4 need more bugs fixing before it end, an attraction systeme (+more cuddling animations, slow dance), whims updated to be more in tune with the current aspiration/personnality of a sim, werebeasts/werewolfs, fairies, zombies.

"Atreya33;c-17998194" wrote:

"EA_Cade;c-17997958" wrote:

"Amapola76;c-17997952" wrote:

"Simmerville;c-17997944" wrote:

"Peral;c-17997892" wrote:

"crocobaura;c-17997870" wrote:
They said before that they don't announce paid DLC during Inside Maxis 411 podcasts. They may still announce a pack later next month.

Which make me think Sims 5 is knocking on the door, I don't think they will release a new Sims 4 pack as well as Sims 5. That would split their customers to much, they want their customers starving for something new otherwise they are just not making any money

Well, this customer will not at all starve for TS5, so if they want more o my money they will need to produce TS4 packs ;)

Agreed. It will be a cold day in hell before I buy TS5. Especially if it's heavily multiplayer-focused. But even if it's not, I bought (and bought into) TS4 with the expectation and understanding that I would ultimately see certain features. I'm too far in to TS4 to quit now, but I have learned my lesson. I'm not giving TS5 the benefit of the doubt; it will have to be out at least five years before I'm ready to give it a try, and that's only if it looks like they're doing a good job at that point. There are too many other places I can put my time and money.

Can you elaborate on what features you were hoping for that you haven't seen as of yet? I'm more than happy to pass feedback up the chain.

For sims 5 I hope to see
- most importantly give occults the attention they deserve. We didn't have an occult lifestate since 2019, in sims 2 and 3 we would get an occult with every EP, so one or two occults per year. I was so disappointed to find out sims 4 stopped that tradition.

This, right here, is why i quit the sims for 2 years before playing again. Because occults were missing, many still are, and they're few and far between. Ts2 and 3 basegames had occults present. Ts4 didn't and current ghosts don't count because they were patched in much later, and they're nothing but ghosts of their former selves.

It's a fantasy element that I personally need in my game and I didn't pick up the game until after vampires got released.

"EA_Cade;c-17998051" wrote:

"Amapola76;c-17998030" wrote:

"Gordy;c-17997984" wrote:

"EA_Cade;c-17997958" wrote:

Can you elaborate on what features you were hoping for that you haven't seen as of yet? I'm more than happy to pass feedback up the chain.

Amapola, say dragons. Tell them you hope to see dragons.

I... actually do? I mean, I have to be completely honest, it's not on my top ten, or probably even my top twenty list, but yes, I would greatly enjoy dragons.

@EA_Cade, I appreciate the responsiveness, truly, but I think you guys are probably pretty well aware already of the most requested items from the community that we haven't seen yet. Several have been mentioned already in this thread.

I mean, just off the top of my head, I would personally love to see at least a couple more of the main occults (werewolves and fairies), horses, more non-US worlds, open swimming in all worlds, underwater swimming/diving, a better system for college households so that our sims can go to school with friends and relatives, more options for babies, better family trees, bands/more music options, more after school options for kids, more romance options, more likes/dislikes, a better memory system, hotels, cars, bicycles for kids (along with generally more options for kids to engage in gameplay that they have been able to do in previous versions but have been locked out of in TS4), sculpting/glass blowing, open neighborhoods, slightly bigger worlds, nectar making, create a world, etc.

This is not an exhaustive list, but these are probably the bigger things that come immediately to my mind. I could go on and on with lists of individual items that I'd like to see (working tea set/table, tree house, etc.). The problem is, I expect some of these features are things we will hopefully see eventually. Others, I don't think we will ever get in this version of the game.

Hey thanks for taking the time to type that out, I appreciate it.

Part of my role here is to collate feedback for various teams who are interested in what you all have to say about features and content and it's so much easier to get a feel for what's going on when we can strike up a dialogue like this.

I obviously can't speak to unannounced content, but this is the type of feedback that really helps us find the content people want to see.

And dragons.

one small thing I noticed today is you can't invite ghost in played households out
I hope they can fix that @EA_Cade and Dragons to.

"Atreya33;c-17998194" wrote:

"EA_Cade;c-17997958" wrote:

"Amapola76;c-17997952" wrote:

"Simmerville;c-17997944" wrote:

"Peral;c-17997892" wrote:

"crocobaura;c-17997870" wrote:
They said before that they don't announce paid DLC during Inside Maxis 411 podcasts. They may still announce a pack later next month.

Which make me think Sims 5 is knocking on the door, I don't think they will release a new Sims 4 pack as well as Sims 5. That would split their customers to much, they want their customers starving for something new otherwise they are just not making any money

Well, this customer will not at all starve for TS5, so if they want more o my money they will need to produce TS4 packs ;)

Agreed. It will be a cold day in hell before I buy TS5. Especially if it's heavily multiplayer-focused. But even if it's not, I bought (and bought into) TS4 with the expectation and understanding that I would ultimately see certain features. I'm too far in to TS4 to quit now, but I have learned my lesson. I'm not giving TS5 the benefit of the doubt; it will have to be out at least five years before I'm ready to give it a try, and that's only if it looks like they're doing a good job at that point. There are too many other places I can put my time and money.

Can you elaborate on what features you were hoping for that you haven't seen as of yet? I'm more than happy to pass feedback up the chain.

For sims 5 I hope to see
- most importantly give occults the attention they deserve. We didn't have an occult lifestate since 2019, in sims 2 and 3 we would get an occult with every EP, so one or two occults per year. I was so disappointed to find out sims 4 stopped that tradition.
- attention for all ages (don't leave out toddlers again, babies are persons, not objects ), how about a private school in base game?
- the freedom to edit the world/neighbourhood and add lots like we could in sims 2 and 3.
- meaningful gameplay like traits that matter, whims/wishes and fears based on personality and a memory system (I loved the sims 2 version)
- options. Allow us to tweak the game to our needs and allow us to choose if we want story progression, occults,...

I think the reception of the initial version of sims 4 gives a good idea of what simmers want. A new version of the base game should be an improvement on the last base game. Both sims 2 and 3 included much of the previous base games with additional features as well. They felt like a step forward. Sims 5 should be that as well.

I very much agree. Occults aren’t really my thing, but I don’t need to buy every pack so as long as they are easy to add a la carte, I’m happy and I want the occult lovers to be happy too.

Personally I won’t buy TS5 unless it meets these standards and there’s weather and seasons. 4 Years was too long to wait for Seasons in Sims 4, and that was 4 years EA could have taken more of my money. But for me, the game wasn’t worth playing without it.

"Amapola76;c-17998193" wrote:
Oh, I can't believe I forgot this, as it's something we've discussed it often on the forums, but I don't think I've noticed it on the team's radar at all: newspapers and landlines. We really miss those. Particularly newspapers, which we thought might return with EL, as they would have been ideal for recycling. Newspapers were the perfect starter item in older versions of the game. You could increase your fun and logic with the crossword, look for a job, or just read it. For simmers who want to recycle, it's a great source of material. For slob sims, or simmers who are trying to create dark, dystopian, dirty worlds, old piled up newspapers are a great way to set the look. For those who don't want them, there could be an option to cancel newspaper service (either by calling to cancel and/or having a toggle).

Maybe they could return in a retro kit, perhaps with a couple of other old school sims items? If it also came with the option to get rid of cell phones or turn off cell phone functionality, that would be even better, since many of us still try to create historical saves.

I loved that with newspapers, you only had access to a limited number of job offers every day if you didn't have a computer.

@EA_Cade I’m just longing for bands/orchestras!