@Renee030303 Yes, this is the family I have played multiple times over. I've had to restart, taking Erik back to his teens and watch him rise in fame. I keep getting stopped shy of my goal, which is why I keep playing him. the eldest of his children in the save that went kablooey on me were Teens, the next younger two were Child Sims and if memory serves (yeah, it's been that long ago) the baby, Cadence, had just aged up to Child. Been trying to get back to that point for the past two years. Suffer me to say, I hate Patches. And I make a back-up of my saves, too. Weird things just keep happening. I'm beginning to think a Gremlin lives in my computer, just to thwart me.