Occult Babies

What's supposed to happen is that the baby comes out as either one or the other. Mind you, some aspects of an occult are not tied to the occult trait so the child could be one occult type with features that are normally associated with the other.

There are still some game glitches that can occur with these sort of pairings as well, though several of them have actually been fixed by Maxis, thankfully.

There's also a mod that addresses and tries to fix some of them and also restores the ability to have actual hybrid babies. It is still being actively maintained: https://modthesims.info/d/647863/all-in-one-occult-hybrid-stabilizer.html The mod is likely to not be compatible with any mods that enhance or add to occults, however.

Ah ok. So if you get a glitchy type occult, I guess you can just cheat them back to a normal, or just one type of occult sim, and that fixes any issues? Plus, can you tell from birth which you've got, or do you have to wait?

Sorry, but I'm a bit clueless when it comes to this. I've never had two different occults have a baby before, but I've just bought Vampires, and I am probably going to have a spellcaster and a vampire have a relationship, so they'll end up with a baby, but I don't need it to be a hybrid. One or the other is fine with me. :)

Oh good to know. I don't think I've paired two different occults together. I usually pair them with human Sims because I like the gameplay of trying to restore one to human or make the other occult.

I guess adoption is the best option for Vampire/Mermaid/Spellcaster/Alien couples who want babies. There are lots of orphaned human baby Sims that need good homes lol. I'm adding this to my list of things to do in the game. I think it would be fun gameplay to have human Sim kids get adopted into a home of Vampires and Spellcasters. :lol:

Thanks for the responses all! That's really helpful. :)

"Elliandre;c-18047493" wrote:

I guess adoption is the best option for Vampire/Mermaid/Spellcaster/Alien couples who want babies. There are lots of orphaned human baby Sims that need good homes lol. I'm adding this to my list of things to do in the game. I think it would be fun gameplay to have human Sim kids get adopted into a home of Vampires and Spellcasters. :lol:

Do you know, that is actually an awesome idea as well! I'll keep that in mind too.

Do you use MCCC? Occults in TS4 are just hidden traits, so if you use MCCC you can use it to export a log of a Sim's traits which would show even the hidden ones and that will tell you which occult type they are.

Another thing I've done, in my game, is create a club for each type of occult that only accepts members of that occult type. With those clubs set up, I can see if a Sim is an occult type just by checking if they are eligible to join the club. Babies can't join clubs though, so you wouldn't be able to check with this method until they are toddlers.

"kalaksed;c-18047476" wrote:
there are a couple of threads here on the forums that talk about specifics of some occult pairings, i definitely recall talking in one of those about the horrors of a vampire/mermaid... seems the latter isn't good to pair with anything else, sadly

a vampire/spellcaster pairing could be mostly okay, since spellcasters don't have a second form (two occults with those can break all kinds of things). just be aware that you'll never see the vampire upgrade options, as that panel gets overridden by the spellcaster one. (you can cheat in the various perks and weaknesses, though, if you know the commands for them, typically hidden trait ones)

the only occult pairing that seems to have no glitches or anything is alien/spellcaster. the former doesn't have unique needs or changes to their needs panel, the latter doesn't have a secondary form, so they play together quite nicely. all the other options run the gamut from 'mildly messed up' to 'absolutely cannot work together' (seeing a mermaid hybrid trying to walk showcases the latter pretty well)

Unfortunately, Alien/Spellcaster does have one glitch, though it's not a major one. You can't change both their forms in CAS. I forget which way it works, but for one form (I want to say their "disguise") you can change in CAS when selecting the hybrid sim, and the other form you have to go into CAS with a different member of the household active.

Now, I had the disguise up full time, so turning the disguise on and off could work too. But you can't change both the disguise and the alien form during the same CAS session.

I was curious about this, too, since I plan to have mixed human and occult families. I don't mind if the children are fully one occult or the other, as long as they're not a glitchy hybrid.

I was googling the hybrid glitch issues with mermaid hybrids found this thread. It said supposedly the mermaid hybrid issue (with maybe the spellcaster?) were patched-fixed to be either one or the other...? (No hybrids.)

This thread from 2020:
https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/FIXED-IL-ROM-GTW-Hybirds-Patch-1-58-63/m-p/8438782/thread-id/110315
"Mermaids and other Occults should no longer be able to make hybrid occults. How were they making them? Oh boy, I'm not sure if it's appropriate for me to give you the mermaid-birds and spellcaster-bees talk."
"Fixed in Patch 1.69.57/ 1.35:
If you're still experiencing this issue, please create a new thread.
Be aware that already existing hybrids will NOT be fixed.
You should however not getting new ones."

I hope they fixed it because I want to have my occult couples to make babies who can be one or the other. (I don't care if they're not hybrid, as long as they don't break the game or if I can have a way to cheat the glitches out or take out one of the child's occult statuses with a quick cheat or cure, etc.)

Edited to add:
I found that a solution is getting rid of one of the statuses, if any glitches still occur.
"Only thing you can do is to either eat kelp twice to remove the mermaid or remove the spellcaster for them to be normal."