We're all saying it. And that's the awful thing. I know some people really hate Occults. That's okay. But they're being listened to in completely the wrong way. When an Occult first comes out, thatis the first time it arrives in the game, so of course you feel like you're getting a lot of visits from Vampires - they've never even visited before! And yes, visiting every other night is a bit much when it's impossible to wake up in time...But Occult players are actually in the MAJORITY, from what I've seen. Even those who don't play Occult heavily would rather have the option. If we had perfect realism you would have to choose whether or not to wipe.Thanks to a handful of really loud people, EA has convinced itself that nobody will buy Occult packs and Sims 4 - with its slightly cartoony style - should be more realistic, when what we want is more DEPTH. So our Occult states are really weak when we know that they could be really strong. Magic users never use Magic, and have very few spells, Vampires and Mermaids rarely visit outside their worlds.Occults make life deeper too.

Based on recent statements I’m also confident that occult players are being considered.If EA/MAXIS decided to refresh Vampires and RoM before releasing more occult packs I won’t be complaining either, especially if they were given similar treatment as was given to Spa Day.

"CAPTAIN_NXR7;c-17977356" wrote:Based on recent statements I’m also confident that occult players are being considered.If EA/MAXIS decided to refresh Vampires and RoM before releasing more occult packs I won’t be complaining either, especially if they were given similar treatment as was given to Spa Day. Good point. If they were to refresh Vampires along similar lines to what they did with Spa Day that might finally push me over the Maybe Fence to finally get it. Vampires, I mean.

I'd say they need to polish up the Occults to all be at the same standard. Like Aliens need to be at the standard of Vampires.

"Loanet;c-17977427" wrote:I'd say they need to polish up the Occults to all be at the same standard. Like Aliens need to be at the standard of Vampires.Agreed, Aliens and Mermaids could do with their own proper habitat in the form of planets and under water lots.We should also be able to create Ghosts and assign their cause of death in CAS and plant sims need a heap of work in general if they were ever to be taken seriously in this game. I could imagine them to be some kind of fae in a Fairies pack.

"Sindocat;c-17977300" wrote:EA/Maxis has actually shared the opposite sentiment, quite recently. They know Occults are popular and in demand, and have given us non-confirmation confirmation that more could be in the works. That is, they said as much as they ever CAN say about future plans that are not final, in a recent 411. Let me dig out the actual statement:Will there be werewolves, fairies, and zombies in The Sims 4?Maybe? Maybe! We definitely hear the occult fans' strong desire for werewolves, faeries, and zombies in The Sims 4. We can’t confirm at this time when they'll make their way into the game but rest assured, we would want to put as much love and thoughtfulness into them as we did for Vampires and Spellcasters. For now, our roadmap continues to be focused on improving content that is in the game. That said, stay tuned and prepare your Sims for a relaxing refresh of one of our existing Game Packs coming up soon! (source)No - it's not confirmation of coming content, but it is surely confirmation that they are aware of interest. But it is also an admission that as of last month, the Roadmap is focussed on polishing existing content - which has also been much requested. I am optimistic for my occults in the long term, however, myself.Wings crossed.Sithia would like to cross over to TS4 from TS3 with even more fairy powers, not less.

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CAPTAIN_NXR7
Seasoned Veteran
4 years ago

Based on recent statements I’m also confident that occult players are being considered.

If EA/MAXIS decided to refresh Vampires and RoM before releasing more occult packs I won’t be complaining either, especially if they were given similar treatment as was given to Spa Day.
VWoodsong
Seasoned Observer
4 years ago
"CAPTAIN_NXR7;c-17977356" wrote:

Based on recent statements I’m also confident that occult players are being considered.

If EA/MAXIS decided to refresh Vampires and RoM before releasing more occult packs I won’t be complaining either, especially if they were given similar treatment as was given to Spa Day.

Good point. If they were to refresh Vampires along similar lines to what they did with Spa Day that might finally push me over the Maybe Fence to finally get it. Vampires, I mean.
Loanet
Rising Scout
4 years ago
I'd say they need to polish up the Occults to all be at the same standard. Like Aliens need to be at the standard of Vampires.
CAPTAIN_NXR7
Seasoned Veteran
4 years ago
"Loanet;c-17977427" wrote:
I'd say they need to polish up the Occults to all be at the same standard. Like Aliens need to be at the standard of Vampires.

Agreed, Aliens and Mermaids could do with their own proper habitat in the form of planets and under water lots.
We should also be able to create Ghosts and assign their cause of death in CAS and plant sims need a heap of work in general if they were ever to be taken seriously in this game. I could imagine them to be some kind of fae in a Fairies pack.
ck213
Seasoned Scout
4 years ago
"Sindocat;c-17977300" wrote:
EA/Maxis has actually shared the opposite sentiment, quite recently. They know Occults are popular and in demand, and have given us non-confirmation confirmation that more could be in the works. That is, they said as much as they ever CAN say about future plans that are not final, in a recent 411. Let me dig out the actual statement:

Will there be werewolves, fairies, and zombies in The Sims 4?
Maybe? Maybe! We definitely hear the occult fans' strong desire for werewolves, faeries, and zombies in The Sims 4. We can’t confirm at this time when they'll make their way into the game but rest assured, we would want to put as much love and thoughtfulness into them as we did for Vampires and Spellcasters. For now, our roadmap continues to be focused on improving content that is in the game. That said, stay tuned and prepare your Sims for a relaxing refresh of one of our existing Game Packs coming up soon!

(source)

No - it's not confirmation of coming content, but it is surely confirmation that they are aware of interest. But it is also an admission that as of last month, the Roadmap is focussed on polishing existing content - which has also been much requested. I am optimistic for my occults in the long term, however, myself.

Wings crossed.
Sithia would like to cross over to TS4 from TS3 with even more fairy powers, not less.
Loanet
Rising Scout
4 years ago
When we say realistic for Occults, we mean Occults that are powerful and dangerous. Magic users' only current power is using Magic.
Behappy1st
Seasoned Newcomer
4 years ago
I love the occults, vampires being my favorite. When I bought vampires I bought what you advertise. So please don't take away what we paid for, because a few occult haters don't want the gameplay just the cas or build buy. It's not fair to the rest of us. If you must you can give us a refund. After all you're taking away what we paid for. Maybe you can make 3 packs instead of one. A cas pack, a build pack and the full pack we get now. Then if they buy it they have no one to blame but themselves.
Ulf-Gunnel
New Spectator
4 years ago
"Behappy1st;c-17979102" wrote:
I love the occults, vampires being my favorite. When I bought vampires I bought what you advertise. So please don't take away what we paid for, because a few occult haters don't want the gameplay just the cas or build buy. It's not fair to the rest of us. If you must you can give us a refund. After all you're taking away what we paid for. Maybe you can make 3 packs instead of one. A cas pack, a build pack and the full pack we get now. Then if they buy it they have no one to blame but themselves.

That’s a god idea, maybe they could make it possible to buy a part of a pack (if you don’t want the gameplay elements). I like that occults get their separate packs (don’t want occults at all in my game, that way you can avoid these features). I would be even happier it I could toggle off Aliens completely. But yeah, it’s about time that occult players get a new pack . I wouldn’t buy it but you don’t need to dig deep to see that fairies & warewolffs are highly requested features.
Behappy1st
Seasoned Newcomer
4 years ago
"carpe_diem;c-17979115" wrote:
"Behappy1st;c-17979102" wrote:
I love the occults, vampires being my favorite. When I bought vampires I bought what you advertise. So please don't take away what we paid for, because a few occult haters don't want the gameplay just the cas or build buy. It's not fair to the rest of us. If you must you can give us a refund. After all you're taking away what we paid for. Maybe you can make 3 packs instead of one. A cas pack, a build pack and the full pack we get now. Then if they buy it they have no one to blame but themselves.

That’s a god idea, maybe they could make it possible to buy a part of a pack (if you don’t want the gameplay elements). I like that occults get their separate packs (don’t want occults at all in my game, that way you can avoid these features). I would be even happier it I could toggle off Aliens completely. But yeah, it’s about time that occult players get a new pack . I wouldn’t buy it but you don’t need to dig deep to see that fairies & warewolffs are highly requested features.

Is there a reason you don't play with occults? You don't know what your missing. vampires are by far the best pack. So many options. If they had categories for the style we play, Vampires for me would be more then all the other ways added together. LOL, I love that pack.
Ulf-Gunnel
New Spectator
4 years ago
@Behappy1st Hehe I'm just a sucker for realism :)
Like with Island Living, IL is the only EP I don't own (bc I hate occults lol). They could have made it into 2 different pack instead: Mermaids with depth / perks (as vampires) / a cool livable under water world & Island Living with focus on Conservationist / Beach activites / Resorts. I would have bought the IL EP without the mermaids and maybe occult players would have been more pleased, I can see that mermaids are very underwhelming.