Old basic game features that you really miss in Sims 4?

"Dutchysim;c-16464356" wrote:
A MOO that works on sims.
I missed picking my sims up and putting them down where I want for picture taking.

Ditto

"Cynna;c-16461346" wrote:
I miss:

-Sims with unique personalities who react to situations accordingly
-drum sets
-swings
-slides
-teens that look like teens, act like teens, and have teen places to go
-being able to filter Sims according to family relations
-being able to change the aesthetics of the world by adding/removing trees, rocks, and landmark type objects
-terrain tools
-no item requirements for venues
-Sims that are attracted to any object in the venue, not just the ones on an arbitrary list
-cars and carpools
-chaise lounges and reclining chairs
-relaxing on the bed
-kissing, cuddling, and spooning on the bed
-kisses that look like kisses
-standing make outs
-making (or not making) the bed
-cheap showers that get freezing cold if someone flushes the toilet
-toilet seats lids that can be shut and female Sims who complain when they're left open
-daily maids that had a purpose because houses actually got filthy, often.
-flies and cockroaches
-the ability to be demoted or to unexpectedly lose a job
-being able to hand the baby to another Sim
-babies that aren't attached to a crib
-dirty diapers and stinking bottles left all over the place
-landline phones and newspapers
-pop-up chess tournaments and bbq contests.
-report cards
-grocery stores
-having a house with a foundation while also having outbuildings that don't
-children that can play games without requiring an object
-objects of normal size
-CASt
-Create-a-World
-doorbells
-the ability to move/replace lots
-honeymoons
-dancing together/slow dancing
-dates when other Sims don't horn in
-having to wait to find the ideal job
-parties that succeed depending on how much fun the guests are having

That's just off the top of my head.

All of that, but especially those in bold.
Also:
-Burglars, cops, and firefighter NPCS.
-Aspiration failure
-Memories that reflect what actually happens to a sim
-Fears
-Social game-play for compatible and incompatible traits.
-Interests (TS2)
-No auto smart phones. You have to buy one.
-Cemeteries

I think what some people in charge of newer Sims games failed to understand is that it was the ability to customize your game that made especially adult players fans of The Sims series. The other feature that made me like many others hard core fans for life was that quirky humor the earlier versions had. Playing The Sims 2 was so much more social event, even online and not in IRL. People created vivid and lively communities around the game to create new content. We had so many Sims "sub cultures" going on. There is still some, but as EA has decided that it wants to control content and has been disabling more and more ways we used to be able to customize our game, it's also losing this sense of community and belonging to sims community away. People aren't that invested in the Sims communities anymore which leads people not being so invested in the game anymore. I mean, when Sims 2 was the thing, we had more forums where I was active too. We had so much fun either creating custom content like different historical periods and so on, and now... You can't customize how your Sims worlds look. I mean you can build new houses but surrounding areas are what they are and there is nothing you can do about it. If you wanna create a sims story you are bound by what EA decided your world looks like. The Sims 4 is just killing our creativity and that's where EA needs to step up. Get us invested in the game in the way we feel "this game is MY game, I created it, I control it and I'm proud to share it with others".

Oh and bring those quirky sims back. Now everything is so clean and happy. Now it's like Stepford Wives meets the Truman show. No surprises, no emotional attachment, no laughing my apple (ha ha, no plum there!) off for some funny and weird thing my sims do.

Other things I really want back are:

Open world and it affecting things like where you live because it affects how long it takes for your sim kids to get home from school etc.
Creating your own worlds, both maps/terrain and every detail in your world

Beach lots, house boats, hills where to build or just go hiking, rural areas and not just towns.

Color wheel or what ever it was called, creating a style! I mean seriously. This is a must.

More meaningful characters and interactions.

Babies that aren't furniture. I have to say that I love The Sims 4 toddlers though, and I don't usually like playing with toddlers.

Wants and especially fears. Stuff that makes my sims act unpredictable, maybe memories that make them freak out when something similar happens.


More complex personalities who act like their personality. By act I mean actual animation which also has affect on sims around them, not just a a moodlet. Moodlets don't make me emotionally attached to this game and that is required if you want to sell me more expansion packs. Toddlers do this great way, so how about getting older sims do the same.

Teens being teens. I want to recognize someone as teen without needing to READ that they are teens. I want them looking like teens and acting like teens. I was LMAO when one of my teen was dragging her feet when she didn't feel too happy. More of this kind of story telling please.

Sims being able to die because of sickness. In what life (simulation) people don't die for illnesses?

Cars, bikes and boats, but then again, we want open world for those.

Cut scenes like in Sims 2! I love those!

Paradise Island, houseboats, hotels, the general atmosphere of that world and game play

Weather, seasons, seasonal stuff.

Quirkiness. Lots of it and more actual reacting to other sims, like we react to people we live or work with. Sims actually getting really mad at each other without chatting like best friends two minutes later.

Oh, and IKEA stuff or anything that fits to more modern and minimalist style.

"RiverX2Bananas;c-16465689" wrote:
I think what some people in charge of newer Sims games failed to understand is that it was the ability to customize your game that made especially adult players fans of The Sims series. The other feature that made me like many others hard core fans for life was that quirky humor the earlier versions had. Playing The Sims 2 was so much more social event, even online and not in IRL. People created vivid and lively communities around the game to create new content. We had so many Sims "sub cultures" going on. There is still some, but as EA has decided that it wants to control content and has been disabling more and more ways we used to be able to customize our game, it's also losing this sense of community and belonging to sims community away. People aren't that invested in the Sims communities anymore which leads people not being so invested in the game anymore. I mean, when Sims 2 was the thing, we had more forums where I was active too. We had so much fun either creating custom content like different historical periods and so on, and now... You can't customize how your Sims worlds look. I mean you can build new houses but surrounding areas are what they are and there is nothing you can do about it. If you wanna create a sims story you are bound by what EA decided your world looks like. The Sims 4 is just killing our creativity and that's where EA needs to step up. Get us invested in the game in the way we feel "this game is MY game, I created it, I control it and I'm proud to share it with others".

Oh and bring those quirky sims back. Now everything is so clean and happy. Now it's like Stepford Wives meets the Truman show. No surprises, no emotional attachment, no laughing my apple (ha ha, no plum there!) off for some funny and weird thing my sims do.

Other things I really want back are:

Open world and it affecting things like where you live because it affects how long it takes for your sim kids to get home from school etc.
Creating your own worlds, both maps/terrain and every detail in your world

Beach lots, house boats, hills where to build or just go hiking, rural areas and not just towns.

Color wheel or what ever it was called, creating a style! I mean seriously. This is a must.

More meaningful characters and interactions.

Babies that aren't furniture. I have to say that I love The Sims 4 toddlers though, and I don't usually like playing with toddlers.

Wants and especially fears. Stuff that makes my sims act unpredictable, maybe memories that make them freak out when something similar happens.


More complex personalities who act like their personality. By act I mean actual animation which also has affect on sims around them, not just a a moodlet. Moodlets don't make me emotionally attached to this game and that is required if you want to sell me more expansion packs. Toddlers do this great way, so how about getting older sims do the same.

Teens being teens. I want to recognize someone as teen without needing to READ that they are teens. I want them looking like teens and acting like teens. I was LMAO when one of my teen was dragging her feet when she didn't feel too happy. More of this kind of story telling please.

Sims being able to die because of sickness. In what life (simulation) people don't die for illnesses?

Cars, bikes and boats, but then again, we want open world for those.

Cut scenes like in Sims 2! I love those!

Paradise Island, houseboats, hotels, the general atmosphere of that world and game play

Weather, seasons, seasonal stuff.

Quirkiness. Lots of it and more actual reacting to other sims, like we react to people we live or work with. Sims actually getting really mad at each other without chatting like best friends two minutes later.

Oh, and IKEA stuff or anything that fits to more modern and minimalist style.

You are spot on, for me! And this is why I don't play Sims 4. It feels like its been dumbed down for children although I cannot find a child that likes it.

I think Sims 1 was the best as far as quirky went and my favorite EP of all time is still Makin Magic.

I forgot things from my all time favorite expansion pack, Apartment life.
Ability to build apartment buildings
Non-playable roommates

Vehicles
Ability to send someone to a lot (while camera is still on your house)
Color wheel
Garages
Terrain tools
House phones
In-foundation basements
Attics
2+ floor Vaulted ceilings (done by not placing floor tiles on 2nd floor, Sims 4 makes it hard to specify which floor tiles you want removed)
Buildings with foundations and buildings without foundations on one lot.

Too many things to list...

I miss the Zodiac and how it affected relationships like in Sims 2
Turn ons and offs from Sims 2
CASt and the Color Wheel
Many of the build tools from Sims 2 and 3 (like the Terrain tools and the foundations for different buildings)
Create a World (or using Sims City 4 for Sims 2 which was brilliant!)
Being able to edit existing worlds like changing lot sizes or add more lots/community lots.
Family trees that actually worked (see Sims 2 and 3)
Being able to do a bit more with families
Teens that were teens not Young adults that pretend to be YA.


That's all I can think of for now.

The cry into shoulders interaction from TS3...

I agree with just about everything mentioned above. Except open world, Cast or anything else strictly from TS3. Not because I don't like those things, I just have never experienced them. They sound cool though, especially the color wheel! So many colors don't match in this game, it can be very frustrating at times.

Anyway, I think what I miss most is the little animation details. For instance:

1. Sims opening cupboards/drawers to get out a pan/pot/utencils to cook a meal.

2. Sims opening a dresser drawer before spinning around to change clothes.

3. Clocks actually showed the correct in-game time if you had one on the lot.

4. Elder Sims getting the hula girls/guys, drinks and such when they died of old age if they led a good life and/or had a platinum aspiration color from completing it. And being able to leave their loved ones an inheritance.

5. Ghosts could actually make your Sim pee their pants or scare them to death! o.O

6. Weeds growing on your lot if you didn't water the plants, ALL plants not just garden plants. It was actually worth it to hire a gardener if you had a lot of plants in TS2. I miss sprinklers too.

7. Aspiration failure animations and NPCs such as; the Social Bunny and the Doctor/Psychologist, Sims begging money on the street, putting a lampshade on their head, etc.

8. Sims stealing your newspaper (if we had them) or gnomes and putting the flaming bag of poo on your porch if they didn't like you.

9. Claire the Bear going through your trash and bunnies eating your garden veggies if you didn't fence them in.

10. All the children's interactive games like Cops & Robbers, Mary Mack, water balloon fights, etc.

And a few things already mentioned:

1. Bed animations; relaxing, making out, watching TV, reading a book, etc.

2. Doorbells!

3. Sims facing each other when they dance and especially slow dancing.

4. Food running out in the fridge and having to shop or call for home delivery.

5. Police, Firefighters and Burgler NPCs.

6. Pool tables

7. Pool toys, chaise lounges and slides.

8. Functioning cars with all their lovely animations (woo hoo, listen to stereo, joy ride, etc.) and garages, carpool, venue cabs and school bus pick-up.

9. Small telescopes - and the animation of spying on your neighbors with the possibility they might come over and yell at your Sim.

10. Using MOO to move a Sim, not just objects.

11. Couple couch animations such as; the racier making out from TS2 and Sims sitting on laps kissing, Sims having the ability to lay with their arm propped relaxing on the couch watching TV or not.

12. Swingsets, teeter totters, slides, sandboxes and toy motorized cars.

And last but certainly not least, TERRAIN/POND TOOLS, SEPARATE FOUNDATIONS and world/neighborhood decorations tools! Gah! I apologize for yelling but as a builder I miss that most of all. :)

Happy Simming y'all! <3

Two things I really miss the most are online dating, and this one is my biggest one, Sims used to cuddle with their partner as they slept. This is my biggest one tbh. I loved how my couples wrapped their arm on their partner and hugged them, I mean I literally made my sims for each other and they won't cuddle them as they sleep! Thats my biggest peeve in TS4.