So if you saw Grants latest tweets. How they have more dlc,and did more than sims 3 did. The other tweet well they have 200 people which is twice what sims 3 had? To be fair he was replying other tweets. These tweets do not really help the case at all.Yes you do get more dlc,but still, there is a lot missing content. Why the sims 3 had less content. The expansion packs felt meatier in comparison. We also had the store for certain objects.(Why it was overpriced). So basically you have more DLC,and more of a team . We still feel like we have less content,and the game feels empty. That is not a good sign :/ .

We may have fewer expansions, but we have a new category of pack, Game Packs. I think in Stuff Packs we're pretty much equal, and SPs in Sims 4 have at least one game play item while the SPs in Sims 3 were just, well, stuff. :| Something occurred to me though -- I think I read somewhere that there were concerns about performance issues when they designed DSV which is why it was relatively small (in terms of buildable lots -- it does seem to have a lot of space to expore). Suppose those concerns were mainly for those on 32-bit systems, and the dropping of 32-bit support means that going forward we'll get larger worlds with more lots? It might take a little bit of time to see the results while they test the new limits but there could be benefits in the future.

It's all perspective and an objective opinion. For me, the sims 3 never felt "meaty" at all. I didn't bother with it til 2012 because I enjoyed 2 enough. So I bought 3, and more content, and every time I bought something for it I was let down again and again and wondered when it was going to get as good as 2. It never did. Not one pack brought it up to Sims 2 level. Sims 4 is not the best yet. It's got work to do to surpass 2 and that means it needs to work on the sims themselves and the background dynamics of said sims to make them as individual as the way we create them. Their interpersonal relationships need some work. But 4 is better than 3 from my perspective for many reasons. 1. The diversity of sim CAS and creating absolutely unique sims. 2. The ease of build mode and what they've added to that in terms of just pulling walls and moving things. 3. The animations are far better and while the sims are much the same as their sims 3 counterparts in terms of how they play out or act, they aren't near as robotic looking. 4. The content they give is more in depth. We finally get to go back inside restaurants (I hated the rabbit holes) and Vampires are amazing in this iteration. Apparently so are toddlers, but I don't play them enough to comment on that. The club system in 4 is superior. The holiday system in 4 is superior. There is a lot more in 4 than 3. I hope they keep adding content, and I hope beyond hope that they have heard the feedback regarding the sims, the faulty emotion system, the faulty memory system, and that they are working on that first and foremost.

If they have to keep saying it then it means something... like they want people to believe it sooo badly. I won't get into why I dislike TS4, I was told I'm irrelevent since I don't buy more nor play it any more. Just that I find it weak and boring.

What I mean by meetier.I'm talking about the expansion packs. The old expansion packs filled with new stuff. You never felt bored or empty. With four its entire different story. Yoy have people complaining about nothing to doCreate a simCreate a sim is a tad better, but we don't got to create a style. The physical attributes improve. While the clothes didn't.VampiresThey came in their own pack. Why in Sims 3, and 2 they were in expansion packs. The Sims 4 vampires are the best entirely. But that's because they came in an entire pack.Toddlers. Toddlers are the only base game lifestyle that improved on. Kids are the same in 3. Teens got worse. The young adult stage is okay.Animations are not gameplay. Richer animations don't equal gameplay. Dont get me wrong Sims 4 has improved, and some things they did better.Still the gameplay is not as meaty.

"Horrorgirl6;c-17000824" wrote:What I mean by meetier.I'm talking about the expansion packs. The old expansion packs filled with new stuff. You never felt bored or empty. With four its entire different story. Yoy have people complaining about nothing to doCreate a simCreate a sim is a tad better, but we don't got to create a style. The physical attributes improve. While the clothes didn't.VampiresThey came in their own pack. Why in Sims 3, and 2 they were in expansion packs. The Sims 4 vampires are the best entirely. But that's because they came in an entire pack.Toddlers. Toddlers are the only base game lifestyle that improved on. Kids are the same in 3. Teens got worse. The young adult stage is okay.Animations are not gameplay. Richer animations don't equal gameplay. Dont get me wrong Sims 4 has improved, and some things they did better.Still the gameplay is not as meaty.Idk, I myself find the game enjoyable and quite much more better compared to past EP. Sure Sims 3 has more content into their EP's, but I don't find them amusing, or enjoyable. Yes EP's like Late Night might have been Meaty, but I would rather have Get Famous since the Celebrity System was much more better and well thought. Clubs are gives complete freedom when it comes to autonomyand are a great feature that can be utilized by storytellers. Even Parenthood is an amazing features that provides more opprtunities to family players. Cats and dogs provide us Pets, which I find to be better than previous iterations as they are the only pets that encourage me playing with them, along with the Vet Career/Business that is never done better. This are all gameplay features, they may not big but they are better. I actually like them focusing on themes that is actually worth focusing on rather than slamming in an EP, to make it "meatier". The Celeb system is a great example.

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comicsforever
6 years ago
"lisamwitt;c-17017234" wrote:
"Cinebar;c-17016997" wrote:

Exactly, but you see he might have thought no need to add them next time. Like the voodoo doll not many use according to them so they added it to be used for other things but it wasn't that I didn't want to use it, it was it was too happy. Voodoo isn't all that happy.

I loved the voodoo doll in Sims 2, it actually had some good uses and my Sims always had one. The Sims 3 voodoo doll didn't do anything noteworthy, and that's why I never used it. I've used the one in Sims 4 twice, thought it was stupid and now I always just sell it if I get one. If they'd really found out what they needed to know, I think we'd have a an awesome voodoo doll right now.

what did the doll in 2 do @lisamwitt I have to and I've never seen it
comicsforever
6 years ago
"drake_mccarty;c-17018034" wrote:
"comicsforlife;c-17017735" wrote:
"lisamwitt;c-17017234" wrote:
"Cinebar;c-17016997" wrote:

Exactly, but you see he might have thought no need to add them next time. Like the voodoo doll not many use according to them so they added it to be used for other things but it wasn't that I didn't want to use it, it was it was too happy. Voodoo isn't all that happy.

I loved the voodoo doll in Sims 2, it actually had some good uses and my Sims always had one. The Sims 3 voodoo doll didn't do anything noteworthy, and that's why I never used it. I've used the one in Sims 4 twice, thought it was stupid and now I always just sell it if I get one. If they'd really found out what they needed to know, I think we'd have a an awesome voodoo doll right now.

what did the doll in 2 do @lisamwitt I have to and I've never seen it

It came with the Bon Voyage EP. When you travel to the tropical destination and access the secret lot you can get the voodoo doll from the witch doctor after you fix all of his broken things.

thanks
Horrorgirl6
Seasoned Veteran
6 years ago
"drake_mccarty;c-17018034" wrote:
"comicsforlife;c-17017735" wrote:
"lisamwitt;c-17017234" wrote:
"Cinebar;c-17016997" wrote:

Exactly, but you see he might have thought no need to add them next time. Like the voodoo doll not many use according to them so they added it to be used for other things but it wasn't that I didn't want to use it, it was it was too happy. Voodoo isn't all that happy.

I loved the voodoo doll in Sims 2, it actually had some good uses and my Sims always had one. The Sims 3 voodoo doll didn't do anything noteworthy, and that's why I never used it. I've used the one in Sims 4 twice, thought it was stupid and now I always just sell it if I get one. If they'd really found out what they needed to know, I think we'd have a an awesome voodoo doll right now.

what did the doll in 2 do @lisamwitt I have to and I've never seen it

It came with the Bon Voyage EP. When you travel to the tropical destination and access the secret lot you can get the voodoo doll from the witch doctor after you fix all of his broken things.

How can you accessed the recreate lot? ?
Simburian
New Traveler
6 years ago
"Horrorgirl6;c-17019036" wrote:
"Simburian;c-17018988" wrote:
"LaneBoy1995;c-17018737" wrote:
Sales... the team should realize that The Sims 4 is also one of the most pirated games and thats an indicator too!

I don't think you can pirate Sims 4, at least not for very long as we were told years ago that the game gradually deteriorates until it becomes unplayable. It has to be bought legitimately. Let me know where you can find pirated copies. I would be interested.

Please do not ask this, or questions like this in this thread.I don't want it to get shut down.

@Horrorgirl6 I'll delete that bit but didn't believe that that was possible. Sorry :'( Can you delete your quote of that part too please?

Having all the Sims 4 packs though I have quite enough stuff for me so don't agree with your original starter post. I spent a fortune on the Sims 3 store stuff and now have trouble getting them to recognise that I bought it. Sims 3 Store is a mess.
Cinebar
6 years ago
"mirta000;c-17026063" wrote:
Well, it is time for someone else to try their hand at life simulation and it looks like Paradox is willing to try their hand at it. Especially when there's statements like "forums are trash". THat's the same as stating "my fans that bother leaving feedback in a clearly defined space are trash".

Well, he didn't just say this forum but all forums, there is that.
EA_Kent
Community Manager
7 days ago
Hi everyone,

Since this is an older thread that's been inactive for several years, I am going to lock it to prevent necro-posting per the EA Forums Rules & Guidelines.

If you want to start a discussion, please feel free to create a new thread. Thanks!

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