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7 years ago

Opinion Rant: I think I just found a reasonable reason why we are not getting Snow Depth.

"I changed the title to a new one because I just realized what I am really about to say" All of these are just my opinion, I just want y'all to know that I'm just being optimistic on this EP. But...
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"Drearydeary;c-16526687" wrote:

You want them to make a deep snow pack as a pack they can sell later? Haven’t you seen all the simmers who were so disappointed and angry because MFPS was an SP that required an earlier EP? ;)


If you read my post you will see that I didn't say that at all, I said patch, a patch is something they add to the game for everyone for free


I suspected that. But deep snow is way too expensive for EA to make unless it can be sold for real money. Otherwise EA would have included it in the Seasons EP which they also considered. But they assessed that it would be a huge work which they therefore chose to do on other things instead.

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All of these are just my opinion, I just want y'all to know that I'm just being optimistic on this EP.
But it doesn't mean the fact that others should do too. I noticed that almost all of the people here are attacking me or disagreeing with me.

Latest Edit: TBH I did get disappointed of having no snow depth on the upcoming EP in the first place. It's one of things that I always expecting in Seasons EP. But it's \"the Sims 4\" (The dark ages of the sims\". LOL. But I just realized that the cons are cooler than pros. But that's my choice and opinion. I'm still open to all of the opinions of yours. Also, I am already used to this lackness in the Sims 4. But I'm OK with it.


This is my comments and reply to another sim community website but'll just gonna share it to you.

I'm OK with no snow depth because I only think that they are just for visuals, much more like what they did in City Living (the backdrops), you haven't gotten any game changing activities and gameplay at all, which is so lame for me for an expansion.

I think they did a good decision to focus more on all four seasons and activities rather than snow depth.Snow isn't just the best in seasons, a lot of people like summer activities too!

These new features will add more realistic vibe in the game. And that is really cool!

PLUS: If we ever get a Vacation Type game pack in the future, I'm sure they'll integrate sunburns with seasons, duh.

And also please don't be disappointed with the \"no snow depth\" in seasons, cebause there will be new and cool things that will be added in the game and first time in the Sims Franchise like the 'thermostat\" and many more...

Then, Someone Replied

The problem is that they should not be making any sacrifices. This is the 4th generation for God's sake. They always have to sacrifice something that we've had in the past. It was the same thing with Cats & Dogs, and at the end it didn't pay off, as always. We've seen it before we know how the story goes... \"Hey we decided to cut this to add these\" but at the end it's not worth it... You'll see :)

Then, I Said:

Sims 4 Has a New Game ENGINE which is entirely different from the Sims 3. Sims 4 has more advance tools and AI (does Sims 3 have that?) Plus they've created the sims 4 so complicated: Even the devs. find the 'coding\" so difficult. You can't just add Sims 3 Codes in an entirely different game file.

The reason why some features didn't make it to the game is that the dev. genuinely can't do it. They Will if they Can. Plus budget and limited time is their number one problem.

In conclusion, the team is trying their best to satisfy the players by giving us cool features and entirely new gameplay.

As i said if we'll have actualy snow depth in snow, that'll be totally like the backdrops in CITY living. Our eyes will be satisfied by that. But a lot of people hated it. And as D********e said (below), people wanted actual gamechaning gameplay and interactions, unlike what City Living DID!!!

Question: Do you like to have the VISUALLY APPEALING snow depth while the world will look so dull, no new features like thermostat, no integration with the other packs, no Custom Holidays (which is new to the game). And even the worst, the EP will introduce a new world but seasons will only be confined in that world and not to the others. Do you want that?


EDIT:

I think the only reason why we didn't get any snow depth is that it will require more work and and time to completely do it. As far as we know, they have revamped or changed every objects in the world four times for every seasons. I think there are about 10 Worlds in the game so far (exluciding hidden and and active career worlds from GTW) and a total of 4-5 neighborhoods on each world i think. Yup. they have to do it on each neighborhood. Yeah, that's a lot work and time.

You know that the worlds in the game is completely different from the sims 3. right?. You cannot just change each world in a single work. Because, yeah it ain't open world my friend. There are many neighborhoods in each world as has different appeaarance|structure and game file for each of this.

Starting from the trees, to plants, to ground, the backdrops, and all other things in the game. Yup, they've revamped all that 4 TIMEs. I may not be good in Mathematics but I think they'll have to do the work all over again for an estimated times of 200 times. Yes, you heard it. Snow depth will only make it more needs of time and effort.

Plus, if we are ever gonna get snowdepth in the game, then we may not be getting seasons this soon after all. And then a lot of people wil start to complain, \"Whey they didn't just wanna give us what we want, SEASONS\". This restlessness I see on these people is I think the reason is why they've prioritize this.

A lot of people will be askin', \"Why didn't they just add an overlay of thick snow in each world\". As I just said, each world has also 5 neighborhoods, that will be so ambitious.

I've just happy (for me) that SEASONS is finally here and are getting it in less than a month. And another plus i think, if we'r ever gonna get seasons with snow depth, and then they'' cut off ,, ummm \"many activities maybe\" or maybe for sure. Then they'll be mad again and I think that is really bad and worse is BS.

This was a screenshot that was tweeted last night 4:00 AM in our country (7 PM in US EST). In case if you didn't know, they've also revampedthe this world from GTW which has been here for like 4 years ago.

https://simsvip.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Deoj5Y3UcAA6Xk2-1.jpg


The Only Answer to This Issue is the simplest of them all, \"Time and Effort, ..... plus Money\", yup, I'm not kidding

People Can't be Contented, Life Finds a Way. (jurassic world fallen kingdom LOL hahaha, i'm just excited for this and the EP, cause they are launching and the same date, JUNE 22 )

EDIT: June, 7 2018

I know that this'll gonna be off topic cebause I don't want to make another thread about the snow depth, But here it is!

Comparing this image of leaf piles from the two games, really explains a lot to me and answered most of my questions regarding TS4 itself.

https://scontent.fmnl13-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/34674484_1042575639252349_4421938705502044160_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&_nc_eui2=AeHdmopa3diubAYp167dAYf4mUjvJUYRA8qyAEOa19oq1mh86BFA2nG5YyRa_BPftWr65tfzjYL8VE1udqAoUoyPWG7DWE4P5_9twc4bGBCnEQ&oh=a79f8cc0ee8b1b4788dd77517497ed73&oe=5BB27D2B

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All of these are just my opinion, I just want y'all to know that I'm just being optimistic on this EP.
But it doesn't mean the fact that others should do too. I noticed that almost all of the people here are attacking me or disagreeing with me.

Latest Edit: TBH I did get disappointed of having no snow depth on the upcoming EP in the first place. It's one of things that I always expecting in Seasons EP. But it's \"the Sims 4\" (The dark ages of the sims\". LOL. But I just realized that the cons are cooler than pros. But that's my choice and opinion. I'm still open to all of the opinions of yours. Also, I am already used to this lackness in the Sims 4. But I'm OK with it.


This is my comments and reply to another sim community website but'll just gonna share it to you.

I'm OK with no snow depth because I only think that they are just for visuals, much more like what they did in City Living (the backdrops), you haven't gotten any game changing activities and gameplay at all, which is so lame for me for an expansion.

I think they did a good decision to focus more on all four seasons and activities rather than snow depth.Snow isn't just the best in seasons, a lot of people like summer activities too!

These new features will add more realistic vibe in the game. And that is really cool!

PLUS: If we ever get a Vacation Type game pack in the future, I'm sure they'll integrate sunburns with seasons, duh.

And also please don't be disappointed with the \"no snow depth\" in seasons, cebause there will be new and cool things that will be added in the game and first time in the Sims Franchise like the 'thermostat\" and many more...

Then, Someone Replied

The problem is that they should not be making any sacrifices. This is the 4th generation for God's sake. They always have to sacrifice something that we've had in the past. It was the same thing with Cats & Dogs, and at the end it didn't pay off, as always. We've seen it before we know how the story goes... \"Hey we decided to cut this to add these\" but at the end it's not worth it... You'll see :)

Then, I Said:

Sims 4 Has a New Game ENGINE which is entirely different from the Sims 3. Sims 4 has more advance tools and AI (does Sims 3 have that?) Plus they've created the sims 4 so complicated: Even the devs. find the 'coding\" so difficult. You can't just add Sims 3 Codes in an entirely different game file.

The reason why some features didn't make it to the game is that the dev. genuinely can't do it. They Will if they Can. Plus budget and limited time is their number one problem.

In conclusion, the team is trying their best to satisfy the players by giving us cool features and entirely new gameplay.

As i said if we'll have actualy snow depth in snow, that'll be totally like the backdrops in CITY living. Our eyes will be satisfied by that. But a lot of people hated it. And as D********e said (below), people wanted actual gamechaning gameplay and interactions, unlike what City Living DID!!!

Question: Do you like to have the VISUALLY APPEALING snow depth while the world will look so dull, no new features like thermostat, no integration with the other packs, no Custom Holidays (which is new to the game). And even the worst, the EP will introduce a new world but seasons will only be confined in that world and not to the others. Do you want that?


EDIT:

I think the only reason why we didn't get any snow depth is that it will require more work and and time to completely do it. As far as we know, they have revamped or changed every objects in the world four times for every seasons. I think there are about 10 Worlds in the game so far (exluciding hidden and and active career worlds from GTW) and a total of 4-5 neighborhoods on each world i think. Yup. they have to do it on each neighborhood. Yeah, that's a lot work and time.

You know that the worlds in the game is completely different from the sims 3. right?. You cannot just change each world in a single work. Because, yeah it ain't open world my friend. There are many neighborhoods in each world as has different appeaarance|structure and game file for each of this.

Starting from the trees, to plants, to ground, the backdrops, and all other things in the game. Yup, they've revamped all that 4 TIMEs. I may not be good in Mathematics but I think they'll have to do the work all over again for an estimated times of 200 times. Yes, you heard it. Snow depth will only make it more needs of time and effort.

Plus, if we are ever gonna get snowdepth in the game, then we may not be getting seasons this soon after all. And then a lot of people wil start to complain, \"Whey they didn't just wanna give us what we want, SEASONS\". This restlessness I see on these people is I think the reason is why they've prioritize this.

A lot of people will be askin', \"Why didn't they just add an overlay of thick snow in each world\". As I just said, each world has also 5 neighborhoods, that will be so ambitious.

I've just happy (for me) that SEASONS is finally here and are getting it in less than a month. And another plus i think, if we'r ever gonna get seasons with snow depth, and then they'' cut off ,, ummm \"many activities maybe\" or maybe for sure. Then they'll be mad again and I think that is really bad and worse is BS.

This was a screenshot that was tweeted last night 4:00 AM in our country (7 PM in US EST). In case if you didn't know, they've also revampedthe this world from GTW which has been here for like 4 years ago.

https://simsvip.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Deoj5Y3UcAA6Xk2-1.jpg


The Only Answer to This Issue is the simplest of them all, \"Time and Effort, ..... plus Money\", yup, I'm not kidding

People Can't be Contented, Life Finds a Way. (jurassic world fallen kingdom LOL hahaha, i'm just excited for this and the EP, cause they are launching and the same date, JUNE 22 )

EDIT: June, 7 2018

I know that this'll gonna be off topic cebause I don't want to make another thread about the snow depth, But here it is!

Comparing this image of leaf piles from the two games, really explains a lot to me and answered most of my questions regarding TS4 itself.

https://scontent.fmnl13-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/34674484_1042575639252349_4421938705502044160_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&_nc_eui2=AeHdmopa3diubAYp167dAYf4mUjvJUYRA8qyAEOa19oq1mh86BFA2nG5YyRa_BPftWr65tfzjYL8VE1udqAoUoyPWG7DWE4P5_9twc4bGBCnEQ&oh=a79f8cc0ee8b1b4788dd77517497ed73&oe=5BB27D2B

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\"Drearydeary;c-16526687\" wrote:

You want them to make a deep snow pack as a pack they can sell later? Haven’t you seen all the simmers who were so disappointed and angry because MFPS was an SP that required an earlier EP? ;)


If you read my post you will see that I didn't say that at all, I said patch, a patch is something they add to the game for everyone for free


I suspected that. But deep snow is way too expensive for EA to make unless it can be sold for real money. Otherwise EA would have included it in the Seasons EP which they also considered. But they assessed that it would be a huge work which they therefore chose to do on other things instead.
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\"Drearydeary;c-16526687\" wrote:

You want them to make a deep snow pack as a pack they can sell later? Haven’t you seen all the simmers who were so disappointed and angry because MFPS was an SP that required an earlier EP? ;)


If you read my post you will see that I didn't say that at all, I said patch, a patch is something they add to the game for everyone for free


I suspected that. But deep snow is way too expensive for EA to make unless it can be sold for real money. Otherwise EA would have included it in the Seasons EP which they also considered. But they assessed that it would be a huge work which they therefore chose to do on other things instead.
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