Parenthood GP Prerelease Info: SimGuru Statements etc.

GAMEPLAY (Part 1)

Sim Behaviour
From the May 16 announcement blog:

Your Sim’s offspring will be more ill-behaved than ever, with rebellious teenagers and toddlers who chomp down on their siblings. But don’t worry!

What's that Toddler dumping on the floor in that 9-second teaser?

"SimGuruNinja;c-15757356" wrote:
^^ I think it's flour and spices and dry stuff like that. At least, that's one of the messes they can make.

https://twitter.com/SimGuruMegs/status/865619093902082049

Teens sneaking out? (the second question is about being caught and grounded) https://twitter.com/SimGuruNinja/status/864848608041893893

Teens can reject parental influence -
https://twitter.com/SimGuruNinja/status/867116384706150401

"Does that mean mood swings are back?" (asks @MidnightAura ) https://twitter.com/SimGuruNinja/status/864912093048315905

"SimGuruNinja;c-15779180" wrote:
Misbehaving is autonomous as well as user-directed.
Parental guidance (both positive and negative) is user-directed only.

Child/Teen Phases

"SimGuruGeorge;c-15787142" wrote:
When in a phase the child/teen will have a trait in their panel that lets you know a little about the phase. It is not permanent. It only lasts as long as the phase. In the livestream we cheated in related phases we wanted to show off. When playing normally your child could get any of the phases.
You may even see a bit of a phase in this tweet. https://twitter.com/LesSims/status/868149763354525696

source

"SimGuruNinja;c-15787393" wrote:
There's a childhood phase called "I'm a Bear" where kids want to...well, be in their bear suit.
And only their bear suit.
They will be pretty unhappy if they aren't wearing it. (This is just like my 2 yr old IRL and his dang spiderman outfit. I swear, it's all he wants to wear morning/afternoon/nighttime).

And of course we had to give the adults those bear suits as well so they can play with their kids!

source

Parenting Actions
https://twitter.com/SimGuruNinja/status/864848406103158786

Parenting reinforces character values, in both directions:

"SimGuruNinja;c-15778137" wrote:
Say you were a kid with terrible manners and became an adult with the Bad Manners trait. Well this trait allows you to positively reinforce bad manners in your own kids. So when they start burping; you can totally encourage and praise them for doing the "bad" thing and conversely can punish them for exhibiting good manners.

Punishments?

"SimGuruNinja;c-15778052" wrote:
Time-outs, grounding (you choose the activities they're grounded from), curfews, and a LOT of various discipline type socials.

https://twitter.com/SimGuruNinja/status/864548372778070017
The new curfew is parent-set:
https://twitter.com/SimGuruNinja/status/864540462190780417
But it's not individual:
https://twitter.com/SimGuruNinja/status/867370117763547138

There's a gameplay object for curfew:

"SimGuruNinja;c-15761309" wrote:
1) It's interactive. Family Bulletin Board. Among other things you'll be able to set and adjust curfew times here.

(from here)

https://twitter.com/SimGuruNinja/status/864597862948020224

Is punishment up to us or to the game?

"SimGuruNinja;c-15761357" wrote:
^^ You decide. Your parenting skill will determine what you're allowed to do.

Punishments are "user directed only," not autonomous -
https://twitter.com/SimGuruNinja/status/867110133402279936
Grounding has lots of options (shared here by SimGuruNinja):
http://i.imgur.com/6utcFGK.png
https://twitter.com/SimGuruLakshmi/status/867453029934440448

Who can parent?

"SimGuruNinja;c-15764111" wrote:
Grandparents can use their parenting skill on the grand-kids. :smiley:
They're also a great source of advice for new parents.

(from here)

"SimGuruNinja;c-15765660" wrote:
^^Yes, we've expanded to allow any household sim (YA or older) to claim a teen or younger sim as their dependent.

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A sim can have multiple Caregivers in addition to parents

(from here)

"SimGuruNinja;c-15766621" wrote:
Yes, even when households sadly break up, parents & caregivers can still influence their offspring.

https://twitter.com/SimGuruMegs/status/865319304018788353


Parenting Skill
https://twitter.com/SimGuruNinja/status/864550105159876608
Telling kids to do stuff (homework etc.) is tied to it:
https://twitter.com/SimGuruNinja/status/864547798888308736
There are ways to study parenting:

"SimGuruNinja;c-15761309" wrote:
3) Sure, Magazines and Online Forums are a great way to help a new parent out.

(from here)

Character Values, Adult Traits, and Future Relationships
From the May 16 announcement blog:

If your Sims take the time to teach their children good manners, like setting the table, and trying to not burp, swear, or fart, they can grow up with new Traits that will positively affect their lives forever. Or, if they don’t do these things, well, there are Traits with consequences of another stripe...

https://twitter.com/SimGuruNinja/status/865598460350693376

https://twitter.com/SimGuruNinja/status/867064360602030084

https://twitter.com/SimGuruNinja/status/867065327158308865

"SimGuruNinja;c-15778219" wrote:

There's 5 good traits and 5 bad ones.
Your sims can receive 0 to 5 traits based on how they were raised.
These could be all good, all bad, or a combo of both.

from here

"SimGuruNinja;c-15778095" wrote:

The traits they can receive upon aging to YA reflect how they were brought up.
And Sims will also remember how individual family members treated them.

Check your kid's relationship panel after they age up to young adult. It will change the titles of their family based off their childhood experience. A sibling may become "Childhood Buds."
A parent who was really good to you might become "Oh Captain My Captain."
A parent who was not so great could be "Repressive Childhood."
Grandparents get changed titles too.
And lots more.

Along with this, the relationship titles also introduce new social interactions between family members as well as updated autonomous behavior. So the way adult sims were treated when they were kids by individual family members dictates how they feel about them throughout adulthood.

"SimGuruNinja;c-15787372" wrote:
Well loved Grandparents will occasionally send your sim gifts in the mail.

source

You should be able to cheat Character Value traits onto Sims.

- SimGuruNinja, here
Those traits are:

"SimGuruNinja;c-15778906" wrote:
Good Manners / Bad manners
Responsible / Irresponsible
Mediator / Argumentative
Compassionate / Insensitive
Emotional Control / Uncontrolled Emotions

Aspirations?

The new aspiration is SUPER PARENT (This Sim wants to be the best parent ever!)

- SimGuruNinja, here

GAMEPLAY (Part 2)

Volunteering

"SimGuruNinja;c-15761271" wrote:
You'll be able to use the phone and take your family to one of several volunteering options. It's a rabbithole activity (like school) and you'll be presented with choices on how to proceed. There is rewards & consequences to your choices.

"SimGuruNinja;c-15761315" wrote:
^^ You can go alone or take some or all of the fam.

(from here)

School projects
From the May 16 announcement blog:

Children will bring home new school projects to work on after class with parents and siblings as well. These create permanent, hilarious objects, like erupting volcanoes and backyard rockets.

"SimGuruNinja;c-15761309" wrote:
They'll come from school, but you can buy them also. (There are several!)

(from here)
https://twitter.com/SimGuruNinja/status/864644759855353857

"SimGuruNinja;c-15764071" wrote:
A child/teen can start the project and the adult could take over it.

"SimGuruGeorge;c-15787082" wrote:
School Project Box items can be activated just by the player when the Sims are not paying attention.

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About that rocket...
https://twitter.com/SimGuruNinja/status/864540104341069824

Other gameplay objects
From the May 16 announcement blog:

Future medical professionals can practice their stethescoping skills on teddy bears.

they'll run through a variety of animations.

https://twitter.com/SimGuruNinja/status/864839049416065024 + https://twitter.com/SimGuruNinja/status/865324949459705856

"SimGuruNinja;c-15777917" wrote:
The Construction Block Table is an object separate from School Projects

Table setting
https://twitter.com/SimGuruNinja/status/864572844742656000

Bag lunch
https://twitter.com/SimGuruNinja/status/864541081643253761
https://twitter.com/SimGuruNinja/status/864879535916851200

"SimGuruNinja;c-15777902" wrote:

-You can pack pretty much any prepared food into a sack lunch
-You can select a few quick sack lunches from the fridge (if you don't want to spend the time cooking an actual meal)
-You can premake sack lunches and pack them in the fridge to grab on the way out to school/work/whatever
-Kids & Teens will eat them at school (if their hunger motive is low enough)
-Adults can take lunches to work and will eat them (if their hunger motive is low enough)

from here

The Journal/Diary

Does writing in the diary affect any gameplay/ moodlets ?

https://twitter.com/karrot_x/status/864927728499384320 https://twitter.com/SimGuruNinja/status/864938390239666176

Children can also be tucked into bed (like Toddlers already can): https://twitter.com/SimGuruNinja/status/864540781163429888

CAS

The walkstyle in the trailer is new: http://forums.thesims.com/en_US/discussion/comment/15760251/#Comment_15760251

"SimGuruNinja;c-15779173" wrote:

"Triplis;c-15779048" wrote:

Don't think it's been specified whether {the new walkstyle} will be available in CAS or just under particular circumstances.

Could you confirm on this one? @SimGuruNinja

This exasperated walk style triggers when your sim is in a mood swing (most common in teens). This is not a chooseable walk style in CAS, but an expressive walk based on sim's emotional state.

From here

https://twitter.com/SimGuruNinja/status/864669973431570432

Acne
Acne is a CAS detail:
https://twitter.com/SimGuruNinja/status/864547560958025728
Will teens with acne be embarassed?

Nope. It's nothing to be embarrassed about. ;)

https://twitter.com/SimGuruNinja/status/864573303582863362

"SimGuruNinja;c-15785984" wrote:
We chose CAS detail, because we had the right amount of time within the right development disciplines to implement it in that manner. Trying to add specific gameplay to this would have hit other disciplines and resulted in something else likely hitting the cutting room floor. Ultimately, we think that a CAS detail still allows for a lot of flexibility in storytelling (the original point I was clumsily trying to make) and visual variety. That said, the way we've done it does not at all close the door on future possibilities around this feature.

from here

Love that family from the Livestream? You won't have to make them yourself:
https://twitter.com/SimGuruPJ/status/868671786950328321
(Scroll down for the house)

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BUILD/BUY

The mess on the teens' floor in the trailer is build/buy: https://twitter.com/SimGuruNinja/status/864551587829563392
So is the painted plate: https://twitter.com/SimGuruNinja/status/864540379206475776

Re. the house in the Twitch stream:
https://twitter.com/SimGuruPJ/status/868217335621926912

OTHER PACK CONTENT

@12JEREMIA asked about music in the pack:

"SimGuruNinja;c-15758106" wrote:
*whispers*

Sigrid
Fickle Friends
Avid Dancer

"SimGuruNinja;c-15765918" wrote:
No new stations in this pack; just new songs added to existing stations.

(from here)

Will we get the three-teen household in the announce trailer? asks a Simmer who might be @SmallWhale here
https://twitter.com/SimGuruNinja/status/864911834628800512

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ARE WE THERE YET?

• Launch Trailer: May 16
  
• Gameplay Trailer: May 23
  
• Twitch Livestream : Friday, May 26, 1 p.m. Pacific Time
  
• GP Release, PC & MAC: May 30, 2017
  

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BUT WHYYYYY???

Sorry, but...

No Pre-teens.

https://twitter.com/SimGuruDrake/status/864546136874401792

is my illusion or, on trailer, teens are shorter than adults? There will have a update in your size?

Same height

https://twitter.com/daniel_willyan/status/864548009098584064 https://twitter.com/SimGuruNinja/status/864551045107666944

Why do you always make such a big special objects? What about playing tag? Bunk beds would be perfect !

Always more for us to get in the game; it's true.

https://twitter.com/PaulinaKlepacka/status/864545641623683072 https://twitter.com/SimGuruNinja/status/864550657386201088

"SimGuruNinja;c-15785984" wrote:
We chose CAS detail, because we had the right amount of time within the right development disciplines to implement it in that manner. Trying to add specific gameplay to this would have hit other disciplines and resulted in something else likely hitting the cutting room floor. Ultimately, we think that a CAS detail still allows for a lot of flexibility in storytelling (the original point I was clumsily trying to make) and visual variety. That said, the way we've done it does not at all close the door on future possibilities around this feature.

from here

Not so much as a why, really, but an FYI:

"SimGuruNinja;c-15759842" wrote:
Love The Sims 2 chatter. Not to confirm or deny any speculation in this thread, but just wanted to randomly point out that the lead designer of this pack (Lakshmi Howe) worked on Sims 2 as well. Thought it was a cool tidbit of info you'd be interested in knowing. :smile:

(find that here)

Looks like a picnic basket on table
https://twitter.com/RinconDelSimmer/status/864170452817719296

"SimGuruNinja;c-15757363" wrote:
Yesssss. I love me a good @luthienrising organization thread!
It begins!

High five from here! We're on.

Love your categories, especially "But whyyyyy?" B)

Thankyou very much for setting up this thread! It will be very helpful :)

Here's a link for HD screen shots of today's teaser trailer. Because they r in HD you can see more details.

http://simscommunity.info/2017/05/15/the-sims-4-family-game-pack-3-screens-from-the-teaser/

@catloverplayer it's not a picnic basket. It's an art box. Check it out using the link. The box has a bottle of glue, paper, and what looks like crayons sitting with it. Also the box itself has googly eyes on the lid. So cute!

"SparklePlumley;c-15757703" wrote:
Here's a link for HD screen shots of today's teaser trailer. Because they r in HD you can see more details.

http://simscommunity.info/2017/05/15/the-sims-4-family-game-pack-3-screens-from-the-teaser/

@catloverplayer it's not a picnic basket. It's an art box. Check it out using the link. The box has a bottle of glue, paper, and what looks like crayons sitting with it. Also the box itself has googly eyes on the lid. So cute!

It's probably just decor/clutter but it's cute! Looks like some new kitchen clutter too, like a breadbox.