Parenthood (Making a Mess)

"MidnightAura;c-16276589" wrote:

"GoldenBuffy;c-16276552" wrote:

"MidnightAura;c-16275856" wrote:

"ldmarko;c-16275720" wrote:

"pepperjax1230;c-16271862" wrote:
You knew what the pack was going to be Parenthood to teach kids responsibility and good manners so if you didn't want the messes in the neighborhood why did you even buy the gamepack? Were you expecting the messes to only be at your sims house or wherever the kids in your household went?

I bought this pack because I expected it to be much more than just paint & cocoa powder flung all over the place. Yes I did expect this to only be an active household action, there is no reason for a non-active child to be doing this, since the whole point is for responsibility & discipline, and that only affects the active household. Where exactly in the game pack description did it state that literally every child, played or non-played, was going to saturate the world with these messes? And where did it state that discipline was going to have virtually no immediate effect on them, that they sometimes even start making another mess before the parents are even done scolding them?

Actually, pretty much every interaction in this pack annoys me, especially the phases which are also excessive. But I do like the school projects, CAS & build/buy objects it came with and that's enough for me to keep from uninstalling it & demanding my money back. But that doesn't mean I don't have the right to say, look, something here isn't working right. How can they fix problems if they don't know about them?

This. Some of the objects are nice. But the over excessive behaviours like flinging coffee/paint everywhere is too over the top. Tell the kid off and the kid will have the same reaction to if you "hug it out" More often than not they will go straight back to it. Great parenting!

The problem is though is that when people complained about autonomous punishments in the sims 3 that had an effect people complained. This is the result a game where the AI doesn't care unless you make them care. Where the only bad thing children will do is fling paint everywhere to the point where your world is covered in mess because its not just your active household that's programmed to do it. What I don't get is though, townie kids do not get character values, so if they don't have to "play" the system why get the behaviours associated with it? If they are going to get the behaviours then give all sims the power to say something about it.

Really? I had no idea some players complained about that. Though I will say - since they are my sims and I want to control them, not them controlling their own selves - I installed a mod that allowed me to decide when I child/teen should be punished. So for example, Jimmy's school grade dropped to a D. When he returned home from school a pop up would ask me if his mom or dad should scold him for those grades. I liked that control because then I could decide if it was warranted for a punishment. But, I also liked the fact that his parents not only took notice, but cared enough to want to see him do better in school.

And a lot of the time my sims kids who were suffering in school, their parents would sit down and do homework with them. On their own. This level of caring is almost completely lacking in Sims 4. The only time I've truly noticed sims showing any care in their offspring is with their toddlers, where they seem to be obsessed with checking on them. Outside of the, it's as if they aren't parents at all, and there just happens to be tiny simulated humans roaming around their house.

It's like with this game everything is either overly done or severely lacking done, there is no middle ground. My point with Laundry Stuff, my sims are constantly picking/brushing/tugging at their clothing now, then making either a frumpy face or pleased face due to the state of their clean clothes. I mean, they are doing this at least 5 times in a 30 sim minute time frame. Why? Yes, I know your clothes are clean or worn, I don't need you constantly reminding me.

I just wish that they could find a middle ground. I actually enjoyed the parenting system in Sims 2 and Sims 3, they could combine those and then improve upon it.

Yup people complained the game was making decisions for them. Don’t get me wrong I like choices but the sims 3 autonomous punishments were easy enough to cancel if I didn’t like it. But I love the fact that sims cared about their kids. They notice when their kids are being brats and they act upon it. If I make my kid play 10 pranks in a row I want to see consequence, otherwise what is the point?

I totally agree sims 4 parents are vaguely aware there are some short sims living in the house. And also that there is no balance. Everything swings in one extreme to another. Case in point paint everywhere!