Question about patreon CC

@Chazzzy i see. And I’ve also seen that some of the creators still have locked post on patreon from a year ago. This is why I really want to learn how to create my own CC. Thanks

"simlicious2015;c-17579933" wrote:
@Chazzzy i see. And I’ve also seen that some of the creators still have locked post on patreon from a year ago. This is why I really want to learn how to create my own CC. Thanks

I only use mods from four creators at the moment. I've yet to join their Patreon sites. I love their mods, but I don't have the extra money on hand to pay a monthly fee for anything of the sort. I'm content to get the mods/cc they produce when it goes to the public. As for why some creators have things locked for a year or more, makes me wonder if that creator is even alive or able to create things anymore. Scumbundo, (forgive me if I have the name incorrect) apparently passed away, fairly recently, too. People just aren't always in a position to take a site or account down when they need to do so.

There may be reason behind why the sites of these other creators are still locked.

"Chazzzy;c-17580348" wrote:


The overall problem is there is a lack of "care" (for lack of a better word) from the Sims team. They need to "care" enough to actually track down the Patreons that are not following the 3 week rule. They need to "care" enough to follow up when someone complains about a Patreon not following the 3 week rule. From my understanding, you are able to report the actual Patreon page and let Patreon handle it (sometimes they will close down the Patreon account completely.) If the Sims team did a better job of managing this, we wouldn't have so many rogue Patreon accounts and so many frustrated Simmers.

So, you mean you want the Sims team to use resources to track down every Patreon creator who has not released their content in 3 weeks?? EVERYONE?
Well in that case there will not be any new packs, or any new games, as the team is too busy of hunting down all Patreon users at every 3 weeks..

NOT to mention CC creators don't all post their things at exactly same day, or week, so the Sims Team would have to track down them, not only at every 3 weeks, but every DAY.

I hope very much I misunderstood :)

"Ellupelluellu;c-17580365" wrote:

"Chazzzy;c-17580348" wrote:


The overall problem is there is a lack of "care" (for lack of a better word) from the Sims team. They need to "care" enough to actually track down the Patreons that are not following the 3 week rule. They need to "care" enough to follow up when someone complains about a Patreon not following the 3 week rule. From my understanding, you are able to report the actual Patreon page and let Patreon handle it (sometimes they will close down the Patreon account completely.) If the Sims team did a better job of managing this, we wouldn't have so many rogue Patreon accounts and so many frustrated Simmers.

So, you mean you want the Sims team to use resources to track down every Patreon creator who has not released their content in 3 weeks?? EVERYONE?
Well in that case there will not be any new packs, or any new games, as the team is too busy of hunting down all Patreon users at every 3 weeks..

NOT to mention CC creators don't all post their things at exactly same day, or week, so the Sims Team would have to track down them, not only at every 3 weeks, but every DAY.

I hope very much I misunderstood :)

Uhh just because it's from The Sims team doesnt mean all the programmers, qa testers and game producers participate in hunting down those rogue cc creator, they can hire new team specifically just for this kind of thing.

There used to be websites where you could download paid for cc for free, but unfortunately I don't think they exist anymore

Also it's worth noting that paid for cc is against ToS.... but EA don't bother policing it


A guru replied to this thread https://forums.thesims.com/en_US/discussion/930045/ea-its-time-you-start-doing-something-about-the-entitled-cc-creators-in-the-sims-community/p3 where they basically confirmed it

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CC/Mods Locked Behind Paywalls - Creators cannot lock content they make using our game behind a paywall. While we do not police this content (there is no way we would create a team simply to monitor this) we do take reports sent to us seriously and action accordingly.

Patreon - We understand that folks who make CC / Mods for others to enjoy are doing it in their free time and may desire to offset costs to create the content by using this service. As long as the content is still made available FOR FREE we do not mind these types of pages. Folks who have a Patreon page are welcome to provide folks with "early access" incentives for their content but it should be made available to the general public within 2-3 weeks of it being given to folks early.

"Chazzzy;c-17579850" wrote:
If you join anyone’s Patreon, you will be paying monthly for whatever it is they are offering. To make matters worse, some of these “creators” don’t even upload new things every month. So, you are effectively paying for nothing.

Also, some will make anything they upload go backwards, meaning if you sign up today you may get only this months upload OR you may get everything they’ve ever uploaded. But you will have to check closely what this particular “creator” is saying on their page.

Keep in mind, these “creators” are only supposed to keep things behind a Patreon for 3 weeks maximum. Anything longer than that and they are abusing The Sims terms and conditions. This means, if you can wait 3 weeks to have whatever they made, you can get it for free. I wouldn’t want to support anyone who is not releasing items or mods to the public like they are supposed to do.

I would recommend only supporting ones not because it’s a requirement to get the items, but because you actually like them and appreciate their additions and following the rules.

FelixAndre is the worst offender here imo. He puts all his cc on Patreon, then even if you subscribe you have to email and ask for the download links to the stuff you want, he doesn’t provide links on his Patreon page, and even then he limits the number of links you can request per month. I don’t mind contributing to creators, not even a little bit because I know a lot of hours go into each creation, and FelixAndre makes some beautiful historical build cc. But his Patreon system seems deeply unfair to me and I refuse to participate in it.

It's for the best that we make sure to follow these rules as best as we can. If Maxis has to enforce it, then we risk them having to ban all mods in the sims4 because when we make mods, we are modifying and selling something that is not our own. When you buy a game you buy the right to use it, not modify it and resell it.
Some mods work completely outside of the sims4, but even then, the modder would probably have to ask EA specifically if their mods can be used in order to not break the Terms of Service Agreement.

Modding has always been a gray area of what is allowed and not allowed, and while I am pretty sure that Maxis likes mods, I'm not so sure EA would like it if there would be actual costs involved, like having a team that enforces these rules.

I don’t trust or support anyone who keeps their CC behind a paywall permanently. We already pay a lot for half baked packs. CC is supposed to be a way to combat that. I get wanting to be paid for your hard work, but making CC is a choice not a requirement.

A better model is that a lot of CC people keep a few things behind a paywall as an incentive for Patrons. But those who keep everything or the better items locked are ?

The reason that you have to email some creators for past content is because they do not maintain an additional site just for downloads. I don't have a problem emailing a creator if I want something that I can't find online. They happily send it directly to me through email. More than once I watched a video and wanted the cc used in the build so I waited two weeks and I asked through email and got it plus more sometimes.

"AnnLee87;c-17582837" wrote:
The reason that you have to email some creators for past content is because they do not maintain an additional site just for downloads. I don't have a problem emailing a creator if I want something that I can't find online. They happily send it directly to me through email. More than once I watched a video and wanted the cc used in the build so I waited two weeks and I asked through email and got it plus more sometimes.

So youre saying, for example, if its been over two weeks & the content hasn't been released yet, i could just email the creator for the CC? Would I have to be a patreon member on their page to get their email?