Regular townies turning into spellcasters?

I guess I'm a little confused as to why there is an issue with random townies being generated in the Realm, in which case they are probably practicing magic..but then in the regular world they are just their normal selves. Is it a matter of that they were different for that one moment when you were in the realm and saw them? Shouldn't it be okay that they don't do anything abnormal outside of the Realm, from a RP point of view? Are they actually given Spellcaster status once you see them in the Realm, or are they just randomly there for idk visual effect? I RP as well, and I have 1 save that I have played foreeever, there are a ton of stories in there. And yes, I am one of those who likes to control everything that happens (well most things)..and I still don't quite see the issue with seeing a pre-made practicing magic in the Realm, and then seeing them as their normal selves in another world. But on another note, I haven't gotten this one yet. Can I ask if it's worth it in this thread or is there somewhere else I should go?

"Dglbr1969;c-17241422" wrote:

"ceinwynie;c-17241412" wrote:
Yes, I want them to create a option but not make things less random, they even said that they took burglars because people didn’t like the surprise.

We had burglars? In Sims 4?

No. Only Sims 2 and 3 (not sure about Sims 1 as I never played it). The real reason was at launch and early on they weren't able to and now it's more of priority issue. Most people wanted them back actually; but they are focused on other things at the moment.

People who have been playing the sims before Sims 4 want surprises. That was the big reason why I loved and played Sims 2. I wished I was heard for once, just once. We have to fight to get what we want or keep it as complaints cause so many things to be watered down or removed, straying away what made Sims fun.

People don't want to be forced to have mods to enjoy it but everyone pushing for mods is taking away what should be actual features in game. As I said, they should of toggled things instead to try and please more people and now nobody is going to be happy as people are going to fight for what they want which often different things. I know they can toggle it, they have some toggle features for celebrities and weather.

I want it to go back to it's roots while others want it more like sims 3 and want more realism. Unless they can address these issues, things aren't going to change. People will always be mad about something and that is to be expected.

It they toggle it, I can get my randomness and keep it and they can get their realism without changing the game. Too late now and soon we will probably lose this feature too or have it watered down to the point it is rare as usual which is really disappointing; but I really wished that EA listed as these are not new things people been asking for and if they learned early on, a lot of issues could of been avoided.

XxAirixX, exactly what I think too, people demand some realism all the time and us, old simmers, just want those little moments and perks that ts1 and ts2 had

The game auto generating Judith Ward into a spellcaster would be a nightmare!!!!! That should not happen, full stop!!!! I have no problem with generated or out of world sims being made into spellcasters but sims from other packs with an established story should not just show up in this other dimension that only has one portal in and out. That ruins the immersion for me and cheapens the exclusivity of spellcasters.

So, if I tick every premade house/family in the game into My Households or whatever, those Sims won’t show up in the magic realm (unless they already are spellcasters). Is that right? I’ll likely start a new save when I get the pack, but I still don’t wanna see the Landraabs and Calientes pop into magic realm lol It is rather annoying that they made “spellcaster” and npc slot like that though. Instead of just randomizing all spellcasters like they do with vampires.

"okester;c-17241771" wrote:
So, if I tick every premade house/family in the game into My Households or whatever, those Sims won’t show up in the magic realm (unless they already are spellcasters). Is that right? I’ll likely start a new save when I get the pack, but I still don’t wanna see the Landraabs and Calientes pop into magic realm lol It is rather annoying that they made “spellcaster” and npc slot like that though. Instead of just randomizing all spellcasters like they do with vampires.

No... You have to play the households or have relationships with them on your played sims. Just favoriting them doesn't work.
I played in a save where I hadn't been to Sulani and most of the residents who lived there were pulled into the Magic Realm. After playing quite awhile I went into one of their households and they were indeed a spellcasters. The one I checked was the married couple with no kids, both of them were at Adept level and had perks selected. I made a quick new save to test favoriting and many of the sims I selected in managed worlds still showed up in the realm. So you have to play them or your sims have to have relationships with them for them to be off limits as far as I can tell so far. None of my multiple played sims showed up unless I had made them a spellcaster myself.
Going to put these pics under spoilers because of gameplay. Just some IL residents... but I saw or interacted with many on my sim in the magic realm.

Please understand I'm not posting this to cause problems. I'm loving this pack but if it bothers me I'll just replace those households in my game and play them quickly. I hadn't played them anyway and my sims didn't know them so I can still control it very easily. If your sims know the Landgrabs and Calientes prior to you going to the magic realm they should be "safe".

@Hermitgirl thanks for clarifying! I’m glad there’s a somewhat simple way around this. I’ll just delete all premades that I don’t plan to have in my “story” and quickly load up all the rest before starting with the magic stuff ?

"Christina0216;c-17241451" wrote:
I guess I'm a little confused as to why there is an issue with random townies being generated in the Realm, in which case they are probably practicing magic..but then in the regular world they are just their normal selves. Is it a matter of that they were different for that one moment when you were in the realm and saw them? Shouldn't it be okay that they don't do anything abnormal outside of the Realm, from a RP point of view? Are they actually given Spellcaster status once you see them in the Realm, or are they just randomly there for idk visual effect? I RP as well, and I have 1 save that I have played foreeever, there are a ton of stories in there. And yes, I am one of those who likes to control everything that happens (well most things)..and I still don't quite see the issue with seeing a pre-made practicing magic in the Realm, and then seeing them as their normal selves in another world. But on another note, I haven't gotten this one yet. Can I ask if it's worth it in this thread or is there somewhere else I should go?

They get converted into spellcasters, which is an occult life form. This will take sims you have in your unplayed households and convert them into spellcasters. Some people will not mind it. Other people like myself don't want the game to put my unplayed sims, like my island living sims in situational spellcaster outfits (which looks awful) and also convert them into an occult lifeform. I would have preferred if the game could instead create new ones, like it does with vampires and aliens and have them wear their own outfits. Then I could have edited them and created something like hogwarts in the game.

But now I can't do that. Because sims like Bob Pancakes and Bella Goth are gonna show up in brown leggings with purple shoes and walk around and cast spells.

"logion;c-17241313" wrote:
Strange that they did it this way, I like to edit my sims because the situational outfits are always bad. Now I can't do that because they end up on existing sims who were not spellcasters before.

Here is a random sim that I edited in CAS a while ago. The outfit to the left is the one I gave her.

The game spawned her as a spellcaster and gave her the situational outfit to the right.

https://i.imgur.com/q6us6W7.jpg

Ha! That is... certainly a look. The true dark secret of the Realm of Magic: everyone who passes through the portal is cursed with terrible taste.

About 3 of my premades have become spellcasters; Brent Hecking, Joaquin Le Chien and Geoffrey Landgraab. That's about 3 percent of the premade population, I think I can cope with that.

I've noticed the Sages wandering around in other world but they are not doing any magic and you can't ask them about magic either. (The Sage of mischief magic was wandering around Strangerville along with some of the Sulani natives.)