First off, I want to say that I love this addition, and I am very excited about the gameplay opportunities this will add. I'm looking forward to using it in my game, and also I'm looking forward to all the creative ways everyone else will find to use it.That being said, I was a little sad that in the livestream, it sounded like they said that the science babies just instantly appear as soon as you make the selection.@EA_Cade, can you clarify whether that is correct or whether I just misheard/misunderstood? And if it is the case, I would be very appreciative if you could pass on the concerns below.My concern... and I want to be very clear, with this particular group of developers, I don't think this would be at all intentional, and could just be an oversight, which is why I wanted to point it out.. but it makes it feel like the message is that our single parents by choice, or same sex couples, or platonic besties who decide to co-parent, don't deserve the full experience of a pregnancy, baby showers, birth in a hospital, and all the usual things that go into preparing to have a baby. And that makes me a little sad. Again, I want to reiterate that I am thrilled that the team was thoughtful enough to include this option, which we haven't seen in previous Sims games (outside of cheats or mods), so I am hoping that either I misunderstood or this is something that could be tweaked.

yeah I am little sad that it instantly pops out newborn without pregnancy thing cause in many cases it would have been nice to have that stage includedI assume its because the whole who is mother thing they want to avoid so its kind of like adoption except with geneticsbut i would have liked to have option for can get pregnant sims to have science baby via pregnancy

Yeah, I', honestly very dissapointed in that and don't really see myself using that feature because of it. I have had quite a lot of lesbian couples where I change the one that's not carrying to be able to impregnate others and have them try for baby, to pretend that they're doing IVF and have a donor that looks similar to the other parent. I was very excited about science babies initially, but I really want that pregnancy."Simmingal;c-18235802" wrote:I assume its because the whole who is mother thing they want to avoid so its kind of like adoption except with geneticsI'm bisexual and have previously been in a long term relationship with another woman, where we tried to have a baby. To me, that would'nt be an issue as long as both women are listed as mothers. The game already does that if you do what I usually do. There's not different in their relationships with the kids, the only reason I know is because I remember who carried which child. People who view the non-carrying person as less of a mum already do so before playing, and aren't going to change their minds about that because no one's pregnant. To me, it feels more disappointing to not get the pregnancy with this at all, than people who already were biggots continuing being bigots. Not being able to play with lesbian couples and pregnancies was one of the things I really didn't like in sims 3 (yes, I know there was an option in Into the future, but I didn't have it and had no desire to time travel). It's great that the baby showers are for everyone, but I still want the whole throw up every morning and go to the hospital together to give birth with my lesbian couples. It would be way better if you could choose pregnancy or not.

Not sure about all your other concerns, but I do know that they mention that baby showers are not exclusive to pregnant Sims. They mentioned adoption with the baby showers, so I assume that you can have a baby shower with any new child addition.

"Simmingal;c-18235802" wrote:yeah I am little sad that it instantly pops out newborn without pregnancy thing cause in many cases it would have been nice to have that stage includedI assume its because the whole who is mother thing they want to avoid so its kind of like adoption except with geneticsbut i would have liked to have option for can get pregnant sims to have science baby via pregnancyMaybe, though I think in a sims world where cis male sims can carry an alien pregnancy, that shouldn't be an issue. I would have just set it up where the sim (of whatever gender) who actually makes the "Science Baby" selection would be the one who carries the pregnancy. And I wouldn't mind it being an option to be either instant or through pregnancy. It just seems odd to me, because, you know, if you have IVF or use a donor in real life, your baby isn't grown in a pod in a lab, you actually carry it, just like anyone else. For those who want the more scifi option, that's fine, I just wish there was at least a choice for our non-traditional families to still have a traditional pregnancy."Evilyn_1007;c-18235785" wrote:Not sure about all your other concerns, but I do know that they mention that baby showers are not exclusive to pregnant Sims.Well, that's some small comfort, at least.

I'm pretty sure that any sim (single, same sex couples, etc) can still get pregnant and go through the whole gambit from start to end (including a baby shower) if they want? At least that's the impression I got from the livestream.The science baby seems to be just another option for those who don't want to go through the pregnancy thing. Quick, easy, and instant... just like ordering a cafe au lait at the corner Starbucks. :D Edit to add: You establish whether or not a sim can get pregnant in CAS...

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greydonn
New Spectator
2 years ago
"LSM36;c-18244404" wrote:
"greydonn;c-18244317" wrote:
No, science babies are clones if you use the Have Science Baby as Single Sim option. If you have a science baby with two sims they shouldn't be clones.

Idk what happened everything I wrote disappeared ?.

Basically I'm pretty sure science babies are just play with genetics like in CAS but giving them to you in baby form so you get the experience. Like how when the game first came out same-sex sims couldn't have children. The only work around was doing it through play with genetics and it'd be a kid already. This is back during the baby aging up to a child asap times.

Then they gave us the options to change who could get pregant/get others pregnant. And we suddenly had more options. And then they added more in gender and other options.

And we got toddlers. Now infants.
I know clones came with GTW, but I never used them. So I honestly only recently saw more about them. And what I saw was the same sim over again.

This science baby thing seems to be play with genetics. Every time I've done that in CAS with 1 sim parent, I've gotten different kids. Not a sim that looks exactly like the parent sim. And the science babies I've seen in let's plays so far are also different, even when done with one parent.

(Oh I hate when my writing disappears it happens all too often :( )

That's exactly what I've seen and think too, up till the last part, but maybe something was glitched on my end. I just know that when I took my sim Leo to have a science baby as a single sim, 3/3 babies all aged up to look exactly like him. When my sim Onyx had a science baby with Father Winter the baby ended up looking like a combination of both.

Operating just off of memory, in James Turner's 7 infant challenge video all the infants looked identical to me too, and he was using the have a science baby as a single sim option. I can't remember if he ever aged the infants up to see if they looked like the starting sim.

I might need to test this new feature out more.
goldann25
Rising Observer
2 years ago
Can anyone confirm that we should be able to have a science baby with Morgyn Ember. I thought I could be for I download growning together but now I can't.
wrencode
New Spectator
2 years ago
I just tested by having one of the default sims have 7 science babies. For science, I set them all to the same gender (6 were female by birth, 1 altered in CAS) so there were no frame differences to get the truest comparison. All 7 children were clones, aside from some differences in their body weight. Parent is in green.

https://i.postimg.cc/903crCQH/science-babies.png

https://i.postimg.cc/zDwsnndg/group.png

Also tested creating 7 through play with genetics in CAS. They all had VERY similar facial features but some had different eye colours, skin details, etc.
wrencode
New Spectator
2 years ago
> @goldann25 said:
> Can anyone confirm that we should be able to have a science baby with Morgyn Ember. I thought I could be for I download growning together but now I can't.

I can only do it after adding them to my household. The option doesn't come up otherwise. I noticed this in Gluon's stream with other special NPCs, so there must be some kind of hidden flag.
LBonne24
Seasoned Novice
2 years ago
"greydonn;c-18244472" wrote:
"LSM36;c-18244404" wrote:
"greydonn;c-18244317" wrote:
No, science babies are clones if you use the Have Science Baby as Single Sim option. If you have a science baby with two sims they shouldn't be clones.

Idk what happened everything I wrote disappeared ?.

Basically I'm pretty sure science babies are just play with genetics like in CAS but giving them to you in baby form so you get the experience. Like how when the game first came out same-sex sims couldn't have children. The only work around was doing it through play with genetics and it'd be a kid already. This is back during the baby aging up to a child asap times.

Then they gave us the options to change who could get pregant/get others pregnant. And we suddenly had more options. And then they added more in gender and other options.

And we got toddlers. Now infants.
I know clones came with GTW, but I never used them. So I honestly only recently saw more about them. And what I saw was the same sim over again.

This science baby thing seems to be play with genetics. Every time I've done that in CAS with 1 sim parent, I've gotten different kids. Not a sim that looks exactly like the parent sim. And the science babies I've seen in let's plays so far are also different, even when done with one parent.

(Oh I hate when my writing disappears it happens all too often :( )

That's exactly what I've seen and think too, up till the last part, but maybe something was glitched on my end. I just know that when I took my sim Leo to have a science baby as a single sim, 3/3 babies all aged up to look exactly like him. When my sim Onyx had a science baby with Father Winter the baby ended up looking like a combination of both.

Operating just off of memory, in James Turner's 7 infant challenge video all the infants looked identical to me too, and he was using the have a science baby as a single sim option. I can't remember if he ever aged the infants up to see if they looked like the starting sim.

I might need to test this new feature out more.

That's interesting bc I saw someone do an infant to teen one with all science babies and they all looked different, but obviously related. Multiple hair colors, and some different features though. I wonder if she edited them after, or if it depends?
SEREFRAS
Seasoned Veteran
2 years ago
I got one of my Hybrid Occult household Couple have a baby through Science. So way cool.
<3 B) :p ;)
LBonne24
Seasoned Novice
2 years ago
"LeGardePourpre;c-18244822" wrote:
No science baby for the servos. Cyborg technology wasn't discovered yet :p

No science baby for the ghosts, the science isn't an occult science ?

So sad. You know we were gonna make our way over to trying that at some point. Maybe once we get fairies they can do some magic and make it happen ✨️
greydonn
New Spectator
2 years ago
"LSM36;c-18244671" wrote:
"greydonn;c-18244472" wrote:
"LSM36;c-18244404" wrote:
"greydonn;c-18244317" wrote:
No, science babies are clones if you use the Have Science Baby as Single Sim option. If you have a science baby with two sims they shouldn't be clones.

Idk what happened everything I wrote disappeared ?.

Basically I'm pretty sure science babies are just play with genetics like in CAS but giving them to you in baby form so you get the experience. Like how when the game first came out same-sex sims couldn't have children. The only work around was doing it through play with genetics and it'd be a kid already. This is back during the baby aging up to a child asap times.

Then they gave us the options to change who could get pregant/get others pregnant. And we suddenly had more options. And then they added more in gender and other options.

And we got toddlers. Now infants.
I know clones came with GTW, but I never used them. So I honestly only recently saw more about them. And what I saw was the same sim over again.

This science baby thing seems to be play with genetics. Every time I've done that in CAS with 1 sim parent, I've gotten different kids. Not a sim that looks exactly like the parent sim. And the science babies I've seen in let's plays so far are also different, even when done with one parent.

(Oh I hate when my writing disappears it happens all too often :( )

That's exactly what I've seen and think too, up till the last part, but maybe something was glitched on my end. I just know that when I took my sim Leo to have a science baby as a single sim, 3/3 babies all aged up to look exactly like him. When my sim Onyx had a science baby with Father Winter the baby ended up looking like a combination of both.

Operating just off of memory, in James Turner's 7 infant challenge video all the infants looked identical to me too, and he was using the have a science baby as a single sim option. I can't remember if he ever aged the infants up to see if they looked like the starting sim.

I might need to test this new feature out more.

That's interesting bc I saw someone do an infant to teen one with all science babies and they all looked different, but obviously related. Multiple hair colors, and some different features though. I wonder if she edited them after, or if it depends?

I think she may have edited them after or had a mod installed. I tried having science babies as single sims with three different sims, and all the children were identical to their parents when aged up in CAS with some minor differences in the body. Or maybe I've been really lucky with clones which I'm completely fine with. :D New save with mods turned off though, so idk. Hopefully someone on twitter can ask the gurus.

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