Share Your Sims' Fear!

"LiELF;c-17783288" wrote:
I don't think Sims should fear Vampires by default, but I do think a Vampire's actions should trigger it. Like when they feed without permission. That's an aggressive act from a Vampire and both the victim and bystanders should freak out. Some Vampire powers and weaknesses should also inflict fear, like Uncontrollable Hissing.

And I think certain Spellcaster spells should inflict fear or terror. Setting someone on fire or electrocuting them should definitely trigger it. And when a Mermaid tries to drown a Sim they should panic.

I just think it needs to be incorporated a little better with Occults, and Occults should have an immunity to their own fearful acts.

It's these sorts of ideas regarding vamps & spellcasters I would like to see in the game but triggered via players through the supernaturals they are playing..

I don't want sims to be scared of occults by default. I agree that the optimum thing would be to be afraid of their actions... especially if they don't know them. I play ghost houses where I don't want them to fear each other or for other household members to fear them. I could be okay with people they don't know fearing them but there would have to be a way to get over it once they know them. I guess the courageous trait would be okay if used for this but then it would make it so they suddenly fear no ghosts or vampires or whatever might come. That could be limiting in ways you want to play the game. Maybe you want to play a good vampire with human friends... and play his nemesis the evil vampire that scares the crud out of everyone..
I'm pretty sure they didn't make them scared of ghosts or vampires by default because it would mess with many saves that people are already engaged in playing.

"logion;c-17782317" wrote:

"LiELF;c-17782265" wrote:

"CelSims;c-17782217" wrote:
Well, one of the asylum just autonomously fed on some one whilst at a museum trip. No one batted an eyelid. I'm underwhelmed.

Also, there is no option for fear if you use 'Surge Emotion'. The closest is 'on edge', which is tense. D:

Yeah. First thing I did was go into a Vampire household. Some mortal came knocking on the door so they let him in and fed on him. After she regained consciousness, she hung around with no reaction.

So I took them all to the park. There were three Sims standing around talking. Dropped one of them with a deep drink and the most I got was the other two made a quick shocked reaction and then went back to smiling, happily talking about grilled cheese.

Um...did the devs completely forget Vampires when they made the Scared emotion??

From what I understood from simGuruConor's tweet, in this update he mostly changed emotions in the game where it would make sense for sims to be scared where they usually were tense. For example sims being scared of thunderstorms where they usually would be tense.

That means that if sims were not tense or reacting to vampires before, they will probably not be scared now either.

I think it would be absolute that Sims would be scared of Vampires, there is no reason that they would not.

Unpopular opinion here but I don't think they should change it. I want my sims to be able to socialize with vampires, ghosts, spellcasters, even the grim reaper without fear. I could understand if they were scared after an occult did something scary to or around said sim, but otherwise it would get old real quick. Besides we all know EA has a tendency of going too far in one direction after they call themselves 'fixing" something. I'd rather just keep it like it is than have to deal with my friendly vampire/ghost/alien scaring every human sim they come it contact with for no other reason than they are an occult.

"LiELF;c-17783288" wrote:
I don't think Sims should fear Vampires by default, but I do think a Vampire's actions should trigger it. Like when they feed without permission. That's an aggressive act from a Vampire and both the victim and bystanders should freak out. Some Vampire powers and weaknesses should also inflict fear, like Uncontrollable Hissing.

And I think certain Spellcaster spells should inflict fear or terror. Setting someone on fire or electrocuting them should definitely trigger it. And when a Mermaid tries to drown a Sim they should panic.

I just think it needs to be incorporated a little better with Occults, and Occults should have an immunity to their own fearful acts.

This is exactly how I think it should be. If an occult does something bad and human sim witnesses it they should then be scared of the occult unless they have the brave trait. I keep my occults hidden appearance wise so humans shouldn't be scared until they reveal what they are.

"fruitsbasket101;c-17783429" wrote:
Unpopular opinion here but I don't think they should change it. I want my sims to be able to socialize with vampires, ghosts, spellcasters, even the grim reaper without fear. I could understand if they were scared after an occult did something scary to or around said sim, but otherwise it would get old real quick. Besides we all know EA has a tendency of going too far in one direction after they call themselves 'fixing" something. I'd rather just keep it like it is than have to deal with my friendly vampire/ghost/alien scaring every human sim they come it contact with for no other reason than they are an occult.

I agree to a point, that just being an Occult doesn't make a Sim scary. In the game, Sims don't necessarily identify a Vampire or Spellcaster just from being near them. Plus, many people do have relationships between normal Sims and Occults, and this shouldn't be tampered with.

But I also don't think it should be left alone because the acts of the Occult should make a difference. Since Vampires have the choice of getting permission to feed or being more monstrous about it and doing what they will, I think that choice warrants a proper reaction. Same with my Spellcaster setting a celebrity afire. I tried this and the celebrity just stood there trying to converse afterwards, while the paparazzi hung around on their phones. It's nonsensical. The choice of how a player wants to direct their Vampire or Spellcaster should make a difference and allow an appropriate response. If a player want their Vampire to be kind and respectful and keep to themself, it should be allowed without fear. If a player wants their Vampire to be a terror to the neighborhood and drink Sims into unconsciousness, it should provoke fear in the victim and any observers because it's an act of horror.

A Sim with the Brave trait might be surprised but not react the same way. This would make a very good distinction between Sims and add more personality and even lead to better story arcs. This brave Sim could, perhaps, become a Vampire hunter. Putting more options in the hands of the player without breaking immersion just makes a whole lot more sense to me. Players who want Vampires to terrorize by default can still create clubs and dictate autonomous feeding and use of powers and choose locations. It would bring the Occult chaos that those players have wanted for a long time without disrupting the saves and stories of others. I think it would bring better balance.

Been playing around with different lot traits - they get Tectonic Terror from volcanic activity, still only get uncomfortable from creepy crawlies, they do have fear from ghosts from the spooky lot trait - even if asleep. I just put the earthquake one on, but have not yet seen what that does. It seems like the lot traits themselves give fear, like trepidation fear, and then other fears when the events actually happen. Toddlers get nightmares - oddly - one got a nightmare about taking an exam in the nude - lol! The only thing the toddlers have to console themselves that I have found is a self action called 'nap?' - they just curl up wherever they are and nap, but can get nightmares then. I don't see anything that the parent can do - no console or anything. Toddlers cannot scream like child and up can. I really like it so far - finally adds some humor for one thing! The mother is a vampire and her kids are not scared of her - which is good. They also have roommates in the household and you will see them running around in fear!

Patchy used to leave sims embarrassed when they first saw him move - now they get scared.
https://i.imgur.com/ZvrPoDI.png

One way to deal with the scared by occults dilemma is that Sims are always scared of the occult sims that they don't know - once they get to know them, they're not scared anymore. So if you want to do a story of an occult that goes around scaring sims, you can do it as long as you aren't friendly - could be either sims they're not introduced to, or sims where the friendly bar is below a certain point. It would make it really easy to have the occults you want be scary, but you can easily change that by just introducing, or cheating a relationship or whatever.

"permanentrose;c-17783487" wrote:
Patchy used to leave sims embarrassed when they first saw him move - now they get scared.
https://i.imgur.com/ZvrPoDI.png

Oh I have to check this in my game today my sim is fully green friends with Patchy... would be strange if she was suddenly scared of him.

Edited to add... oh good she wasn't scared of him... but they were both scared of the thunderstorm and she caught some more fear from him. I didn't overpower her playful mood though that she came home from school with.