Shy vs Loner and Other Trait Discussions

"Nekia33painter;d-984372" wrote:
Anyone find it weird that the loner trait makes sims tense when they are out with other sims? Being around other sims should make them neutral or bored. If your shy then I understand why they would get tense or easily embarrassed. Also why is there no loyal trait? There is a jealous trait and still an aspiration to cancel out jealously but none to make sims faithful? And what is the difference between mean and evil?

All very good questions. I don't truly see a difference between mean and evil, particularly because a mean Sim does mean things to other Sims just for their own enjoyment. Sounds pretty evil to me.

As for loner and shy. Shy doesn't mean you don't wish to be with other people — in this case Sims. It does imply, however, that a person/Sim might feel awkward around others, find it difficult to trust others. They are almost afraid of strangers. They may fear they won't be accepted, for instance and so they remain a tad standoffish. I fear that Loner is as close as we're going to get to Shy. We have Outgoing and the opposite should be Shy. Don't know. :: shrugs::

I feel like in general there could be a lot more traits. I know they add a few here and there with packs but its still pretty basic, half the traits I don't use and the other half I'm almost tired of.

traits are just not done well....sims with the loner trait should for example not be found in public places so often, but they are there just as much as any other sim.
It doesn't really make sense.
Thing is that traits only seem to influence moodlets, when they also should've influence autonomy.

Mean sims do a ton of mean interactions, so to me that makes them worse than evil sims. Evil sims will do mean interactions as well, but not as many. They just get happy when other sims near them are upset.

The loner trait could definitely make someone tense. Many loners don't like being in crowds, and they especially despise having to make conversation with people they don't know. For some, it's much more than just an annoyance...

"Nate_Whiplash1;c-17737248" wrote:
The loner trait could definitely make someone tense. Many loners don't like being in crowds, and they especially despise having to make conversation with people they don't know. For some, it's much more than just an annoyance...

My problem is we don't get to choose how the sims react. Both are fine but I wish I could choose that if they were tense, embarrassed or bored around other sims.

"Nekia33painter;d-984372" wrote:
Anyone find it weird that the loner trait makes sims tense when they are out with other sims? Being around other sims should make them neutral or bored. If your shy then I understand why they would get tense or easily embarrassed. Also why is there no loyal trait? There is a jealous trait and still an aspiration to cancel out jealously but none to make sims faithful? And what is the difference between mean and evil?

In case you use mods, there’s a Loyal trait mod available that I use in my game.

yes, the traits are too simple and there are too little. they don't make much of a difference on gameplay but still would be great to have more traits to choose. on the modding community there's a lot and i've installed a few, but why does devs neglect traits so much? and why did they stop adding new ones to the base game?

"bella_goth;c-17737338" wrote:
yes, the traits are too simple and there are too little. they don't make much of a difference on gameplay but still would be great to have more traits to choose. on the modding community there's a lot and i've installed a few, but why does devs neglect traits so much? and why did they stop adding new ones to the base game?

I think why they won't add more is because sims flip flop too easily in different moods. Meaningful stories mod helps a lot with tuning the sims emotions.

"Nekia33painter;c-17737346" wrote:

"bella_goth;c-17737338" wrote:
yes, the traits are too simple and there are too little. they don't make much of a difference on gameplay but still would be great to have more traits to choose. on the modding community there's a lot and i've installed a few, but why does devs neglect traits so much? and why did they stop adding new ones to the base game?

I think why they won't add more is because sims flip flop too easily in different moods. Meaningful stories mod helps a lot with tuning the sims emotions.

but then they add them on packs? maxis really needs more budget.
also there are ways to calibrate the intensity of traits. i agree emotions are a bit annoying and honestly devs should've picked another personality system to go with them. as of now, i think emotions override and conflict with traits.