"jackjack_k;c-16451384" wrote:
"@JoAnne65;c-16451312" wrote:
"jackjack_k;c-16450825" wrote:
"@bixters;c-16450820" wrote:
"Writin_Reg;c-16450811" wrote:
The Sims has never been a finished game not from conception. If that is what you are looking for - then the Sims really isn't your game. I like the way sims is and how it slowly builds - been here since the beginning and I would never expect or enjoy a finished Sims game when each one came out. It's part of what makes it the game it is.
Really? I've been playing the Sims since the Sims 1, so I don't think you're in any position to tell me the Sims isn't "my type of game." I think each of the base games, Sims 1-Sims3, have been more or less a complete games. In other words, people could enjoy them with or without the extra content provided from EPs, SPs and GPs. The Sims 4, however, was the very first base game to receive mixed to negative reviews from both fans and critics alike. It was so stripped completely of content that there is still content missing from the Sims 4 (with all the SPs,GPs and EPs) that was originally in the base games of the Sims 1-3. That is what I mean by a FINISHED GAME. Waiting was bearable in other games because they had a FINISHED base game. Unfortunately, that is not the case in The Sims 4, and people are getting sick of it. You may enjoy waiting, but most people do not.
I think people look back through rose tinted glasses.
The Sims 3 base game is very bare. People complained because there was almost no family content, and most venues were Rabbit holes. The only non-rabbit hole venues behaved no different to houses (Park, Pool, Library, Gym). There were only a small handful of hobbies (Painting, Guitar, Gardening, Fishing, Writing).
It's a decent base, but a complete game it is not.
I don't think there was anyone who be happy with just the Sims 1 base game either. There was next to nothing in that game, just a concept.
The Sims 2 base game is probably the most full, and the only base game where I could see people being happy for a long time without DLC.
Speaking as a Sims 3 fan: yes it’s complete. In the meaning that it made total sense when they announced the successor (and that was even before they released the last two EP’s). Nobody went “nooooo, how can they, there’s still so much we haven’t got yet!!” like I hear Sims 4 fans saying whenever someone mentions a Sims 5. Of course it’s always possible to continue piling up other content to the experience, but it’s complete alright.
(you keep forgetting by the way lots of people aren’t “looking back”, the old games are what they are playing)
"@MidnightAura;c-16451325" wrote:
"JoAnne65;c-16451312" wrote:
"jackjack_k;c-16450825" wrote:
"@bixters;c-16450820" wrote:
"Writin_Reg;c-16450811" wrote:
The Sims has never been a finished game not from conception. If that is what you are looking for - then the Sims really isn't your game. I like the way sims is and how it slowly builds - been here since the beginning and I would never expect or enjoy a finished Sims game when each one came out. It's part of what makes it the game it is.
Really? I've been playing the Sims since the Sims 1, so I don't think you're in any position to tell me the Sims isn't "my type of game." I think each of the base games, Sims 1-Sims3, have been more or less a complete games. In other words, people could enjoy them with or without the extra content provided from EPs, SPs and GPs. The Sims 4, however, was the very first base game to receive mixed to negative reviews from both fans and critics alike. It was so stripped completely of content that there is still content missing from the Sims 4 (with all the SPs,GPs and EPs) that was originally in the base games of the Sims 1-3. That is what I mean by a FINISHED GAME. Waiting was bearable in other games because they had a FINISHED base game. Unfortunately, that is not the case in The Sims 4, and people are getting sick of it. You may enjoy waiting, but most people do not.
I think people look back through rose tinted glasses.
The Sims 3 base game is very bare. People complained because there was almost no family content, and most venues were Rabbit holes. The only non-rabbit hole venues behaved no different to houses (Park, Pool, Library, Gym). There were only a small handful of hobbies (Painting, Guitar, Gardening, Fishing, Writing).
It's a decent base, but a complete game it is not.
I don't think there was anyone who be happy with just the Sims 1 base game either. There was next to nothing in that game, just a concept.
The Sims 2 base game is probably the most full, and the only base game where I could see people being happy for a long time without DLC.
Speaking as a Sims 3 fan: yes it’s complete. In the meaning that it made total sense when they announced the successor (and that was even before they released the last two EP’s). Nobody went “nooooo, how can they, there’s still so much we haven’t got yet!!” like I hear Sims 4 fans saying whenever someone mentions a Sims 5. Of course it’s always possible to continue piling up other content to the experience, but it’s complete alright.
(you keep forgetting by the way lots of people aren’t “looking back”, the old games are what they are playing)
Exactly. It’s not all about nostalgia or looking back. I play the previous games regularly. No rose tinted glasses required. Just the games for what they are.
Silence is annoying but not unexpected.
We're talking about base games. You've misquoted me.
The point being made is that people didn't look at the past 3 base games before The Sims 4 and think that 'the game doesn't need DLC'.
When people look at the base games, they look through rose tinted glasses. There is no way that any player could play any of the base games for over 5 years and never once be tempted by DLC. The person I quoted was talking about how previous base games are just as enjoyable with or without DLC.
I think anyone who isn't delusional will admit DLC makes The Sims more enjoyable and always has done. I can't fathom that someone could sit there with just the Sims 1 base game and be content. The DLC makes the Sims what it is, for sure.
I highly doubt anyone could install DLC for The Sims and say the experience hasn't improved.
My bad, you’re right.
"jackjack_k;c-16451394" wrote:
"@JoAnne65;c-16451363" wrote:
"elelunicy;c-16451338" wrote:
They’re being silent because nothing is being released anytime soon, simple as that. Based on Graham’s tweet whatever coming next will be released after EA Play. This isn’t any different from other content droughts we’ve had before.
Which doesn’t mean people can’t find it annoying. “We will have new content to reveal in July” for instance is not silence.
But they're telling you they have new content to reveal in June and no one chooses to listen!
It is SO frustrating seeing people complain about silence, and then when they're told exactly what they've been asking to hear, they choose to ignore it. We are literally weeks away from an announcement and people are acting like we haven't been told.
EA Play is in June. We find out about new content then. It's that simple. If people choose to act like this information doesn't exist, that's their ignorance. Don't complain about it.
As far as I can tell they are very vague what this ‘new experience’ thing will be. Could be a pack, could be something else. They’re never ever specific anymore. I can understand why people find that annoying. And from my perspective: I’m convinced a lot of this feeling of being annoyed has to do with the fact that every new experience they add becomes old and boring after a day.