SimGuruGrant confirms The Sims 4's future; "We're not going Anywhere"

"@Cheekybits;c-16425052" wrote:

"jackjack_k;c-16424964" wrote:

"@Cinebar;c-16424045" wrote:

"jackjack_k;c-16421930" wrote:

"@Cinebar;c-16421002" wrote:

"Loanet;c-16392100" wrote:

"mcorral;c-16391968" wrote:
I really don't need more packs, EPs or SPs. This game has been a mess since the beginning due to the change from an online game to an offline one in a rush.

This game is boring, not very well designed, childish, lacking humour and sarcasm. This is the fourth iteration of the game and should be much better. Instead we get a 2.5 iteration. They should already know what people want and what we don't. It's been quite a numer of years with The Sims for them to know.

I'm still playing S3 waiting for The Sims 5.

Sorry, it is my humble opinion.

Then you're going to be waiting some time, my hopeful friend. I've given my opinion on a Sims 5 and it is that there probably won't be one, partly because of all the consoles Sims 4 is being ported to. Now THAT is how you get more customers. And the X-box is yet to finish getting up to date on DLC, during which more DLC is being made for the PC version...

What we want or need is irrellevant - to EA, anyway. They're making more money from Packs than they would if they set up a whole new team for Sims 5. It's true that graphics are more realistic than ever, but those same graphics are expensive and incredibly rough on your system requirements. The graphics of Sims 4 are simple, but ageless.

LOL. Porting this game over to consoles has nothing to do with if there will be a Sims 5 or not. They have been doing that to the best of my knowledge and memory since TS2. Every one of these games have been ported to console. And with $75 Million upfront when the game was in it's first year, I think they can 'afford' a TS5 by now. Graphics are more realistic? Is that some sort of joke? Do you mean they sort of look pixar..yeah, it's not a new thing, either. VR is the new avenue for games, since they already have Sims on the mobile (again). They keep trying that. The Sims Social, The Sims Mobile...and that other one I have forgotten what they called that one (Before The Sims Social).

But EA sometimes lags behind with what is coming for the future, such as VR, they were way behind the curve when it came to social media/mobile games and trying to play catch up. It's not working out all that much (again). Everyone else is moving on to VR. EA is over here screaming look we have a new mobile game! lol

They don't know what people want because they keep hiring developers who don't have any experience with sandbox and The Sims title. So, they develop (TS4) which is chalked full of 'achievements' instead of simulations and sandbox with consequences. I doubt anyone loads TS4 ten years from now and says 'oh wow, these graphics are timeless'. lol Flat paint is not the wave of the future.

Example of stepping backwards: TS2 Sims in my game can easily walk over uneven terrain, it doesn't even have to be slopped. That was something they patched into TS2 years ago. TS3 and TS4 can not.

Only the base game and Pets were. The rest weren’t.

The Sims 4 is porting EVERYTHING over. Like everything. Lol.

And if this comes to the Nintendo Switch, then that’s it. EA will probably gain another several million on the Switch and EA will demand more DLC for the new audience.

Also the Sims Mobile made several million before it was even released officially. It’s doing super well.

VR isn’t as big as what you think it is. VR was a thing back in 2010 and it’s taken 8 years and it’s still not really kicking off at all.

It’s getting known, but there hasn’t been any good selling VR games.

I don't think many people realize Twitter and phone texting were around in 2000. Same with VR, it's coming and no one will ever look back. There are like five avenues games can go AR, VR and Cloud are three of them, I can't remember the other two avenues, so will see which way EA decides to move on.

Texting took off immediately though. VR never has. They had VR sets in TS1 base game, because they were trialing it back then.

Vr is $450.. texting and twitter is not. The sims is a game you put hours and hours into vr is not recommended to play hours and hours on.

Don't tell me, tell @Cinebar

VR and The Sims won't work. Not every game works with VR.

Haha sorry @jackjack_k but I do agree with you. Vr is a experience like you mentioned not every game works with the vr.

@Cinebar you can already use the vr for non vr games so unless they add some crazy new feature worth the sims 4 price tag in vr, I wouldn’t see the benefit.

"Brindleton;c-16424430" wrote:

"Winthorpe;c-16424169" wrote:
Well, upon reading the title, does "not going anywhere" means the revenue plummets or the developers are tired from develop new contents?

It means the Sims 4 is getting packs for probably at least 1-2 more years. The game sales are really good on consoles and PC so they will keep making packs

He is only talking about “next year” and the interview is from 2017. He also seems to be impressed by the fact that “next year the game will be 4 years old and we are still here!” So yes, - they will “still be here” in 2018. But the way he says it still just indicate that in 2019 the Sims 5 could likely be released and the Sims 4 teams therefore will have to switch to the new game.

"Cinebar;c-16424045" wrote:


I don't think many people realize Twitter and phone texting were around in 2000. Same with VR, it's coming and no one will ever look back. There are like five avenues games can go AR, VR and Cloud are three of them, I can't remember the other two avenues, so will see which way EA decides to move on.

Twitter was invented in 2006.

"Shae;c-16425388" wrote:

"Cinebar;c-16424045" wrote:


I don't think many people realize Twitter and phone texting were around in 2000. Same with VR, it's coming and no one will ever look back. There are like five avenues games can go AR, VR and Cloud are three of them, I can't remember the other two avenues, so will see which way EA decides to move on.

Twitter was invented in 2006.

And Facebook was launched in 2004 :)

"Erpe;c-16425403" wrote:

"Shae;c-16425388" wrote:

"Cinebar;c-16424045" wrote:


I don't think many people realize Twitter and phone texting were around in 2000. Same with VR, it's coming and no one will ever look back. There are like five avenues games can go AR, VR and Cloud are three of them, I can't remember the other two avenues, so will see which way EA decides to move on.

Twitter was invented in 2006.

And Facebook was launched in 2004 :)

Well, at least we know it wasn't around in 2000. :p

"Zeldaboy180;c-16423624" wrote:

"JoAnne65;c-16411914" wrote:

"Zeldaboy180;c-16411792" wrote:

"graventhe;c-16200663" wrote:

"catloverplayer;c-16200592" wrote:

"To7m;c-16199917" wrote:
If you’re happy with 10 game packs, 8 EP’s and TWENTY FOUR stuff packs, you’re nuts.

I hope it ends ASAP and somebody, ANYBODY, makes a real sims game. I’m quite happy to forget TS4 entirely.

—T

After Seasons and a Tropial Vacation Destination I think I'll be ready for TS5. Hopefully no lifestates are left out of the base game.

TS5 must be realistic, if it's released in 2020 or 2021 as predicted then it'll be ridiculous if it's cartoony style, by that time technology will much more advanced and they don't have to keep coping with people with older PCs, they can still play older Sims..
TS5 must be like TS3 but with better graphics and much better animation (TS3 animations were very robotics and horrible even with smoother animation on)

There is a difference between Art Style and Graphics. The sims was always meant to be cartoony and whimsical, the more realistic graphics we get the creepier it gets. If sims 5 suddenly got GTA styled graphics or something then that's the day I quit the sims series.

I on the other hand might pick it up again :mrgreen: Though I agree a more stylized art style suits the game better (and I get the same vibes from those examples as you) but for me, I rather have it leaning towards realism than towards cartoon.

P.s. Sims 3 is as stylized as Sims 4 by the way, just not cartoony.

Sims 3 has beautiful lansacapes, especially for 2009 graphics. I dislike the sims appearance, particularly the males, but that is a personal taste thing.

Sims 3 also isnt border line super realistic, there is a lot of cartoony ness still there, I just feel a lot of the base game animations are robotic since they were mostly copy pasted from sims 2.

They really stepped up their animation game later in development though.

That indeed is personal taste, because Sims 3 males are my favourites in the franchise.

https://i.imgur.com/mrOUPkb.png

The Silas in the middle for me any time ;) Wouldn't mind him in real life either. Which doesn't mean they couldn't do better, but for me rather along the TS3 line (and 2, the art style between those two games actually is quite similar) than Sims 4.

I also love Sims 3's animations because they are a bit more realistic and not over the top. I just prefer that (which is why I think the game would suit me best with a more realistic approach). I can see how others may find them robotic though, but I think that problem rather lies in between animations really. When we're talking about a future game I'm certain they'll make animations more fluent because technology has improved in that respect.

"filipomel;c-16424274" wrote:

"Zeldaboy180;c-16423624" wrote:

"JoAnne65;c-16411914" wrote:

"Zeldaboy180;c-16411792" wrote:

"graventhe;c-16200663" wrote:

"catloverplayer;c-16200592" wrote:

"To7m;c-16199917" wrote:
If you’re happy with 10 game packs, 8 EP’s and TWENTY FOUR stuff packs, you’re nuts.

I hope it ends ASAP and somebody, ANYBODY, makes a real sims game. I’m quite happy to forget TS4 entirely.

—T

After Seasons and a Tropial Vacation Destination I think I'll be ready for TS5. Hopefully no lifestates are left out of the base game.

TS5 must be realistic, if it's released in 2020 or 2021 as predicted then it'll be ridiculous if it's cartoony style, by that time technology will much more advanced and they don't have to keep coping with people with older PCs, they can still play older Sims..
TS5 must be like TS3 but with better graphics and much better animation (TS3 animations were very robotics and horrible even with smoother animation on)

There is a difference between Art Style and Graphics. The sims was always meant to be cartoony and whimsical, the more realistic graphics we get the creepier it gets. If sims 5 suddenly got GTA styled graphics or something then that's the day I quit the sims series.

I on the other hand might pick it up again :mrgreen: Though I agree a more stylized art style suits the game better (and I get the same vibes from those examples as you) but for me, I rather have it leaning towards realism than towards cartoon.

P.s. Sims 3 is as stylized as Sims 4 by the way, just not cartoony.

Sims 3 has beautiful lansacapes, especially for 2009 graphics. I dislike the sims appearance, particularly the males, but that is a personal taste thing.

Sims 3 also isnt border line super realistic, there is a lot of cartoony ness still there, I just feel a lot of the base game animations are robotic since they were mostly copy pasted from sims 2.

They really stepped up their animation game later in development though.

I think the Sims 3 art style in general was all over the place, some things looked stylised, other things looked like they were on the verge of realism, and some things just looked completely rough, outdated and out of place. It's not a bad looking game by any means, but comparing the games appearance to The Sims 4, or even The Sims 2 with how consistent the art styles of those games are, The Sims 3 isn't going to age as well as Sims 4 will.

I'd like to see some picture examples here, because I've been playing the game for 8 years now and I have no idea what you're referring to. Maybe I got used to it, but I'm really curious to see what you mean. The art style looks quite consistent to me. As far as I'm concerned Sims 3 ages pretty well by the way (considering it's almost ten years old now). Wouldn't know in what way I'd like it different art style wise. Sims 4 graphics are sharper but in other areas it looks horrible. When we're talking about 'all over the place', Sims 4 rather is in that respect.

http://twinfinite.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/ballpit.png

https://i.imgur.com/rbsyY1l.png

"JoAnne65;c-16425479" wrote:

"filipomel;c-16424274" wrote:

"Zeldaboy180;c-16423624" wrote:

"JoAnne65;c-16411914" wrote:

"Zeldaboy180;c-16411792" wrote:

"graventhe;c-16200663" wrote:

"catloverplayer;c-16200592" wrote:

"To7m;c-16199917" wrote:
If you’re happy with 10 game packs, 8 EP’s and TWENTY FOUR stuff packs, you’re nuts.

I hope it ends ASAP and somebody, ANYBODY, makes a real sims game. I’m quite happy to forget TS4 entirely.

—T

After Seasons and a Tropial Vacation Destination I think I'll be ready for TS5. Hopefully no lifestates are left out of the base game.

TS5 must be realistic, if it's released in 2020 or 2021 as predicted then it'll be ridiculous if it's cartoony style, by that time technology will much more advanced and they don't have to keep coping with people with older PCs, they can still play older Sims..
TS5 must be like TS3 but with better graphics and much better animation (TS3 animations were very robotics and horrible even with smoother animation on)

There is a difference between Art Style and Graphics. The sims was always meant to be cartoony and whimsical, the more realistic graphics we get the creepier it gets. If sims 5 suddenly got GTA styled graphics or something then that's the day I quit the sims series.

I on the other hand might pick it up again :mrgreen: Though I agree a more stylized art style suits the game better (and I get the same vibes from those examples as you) but for me, I rather have it leaning towards realism than towards cartoon.

P.s. Sims 3 is as stylized as Sims 4 by the way, just not cartoony.

Sims 3 has beautiful lansacapes, especially for 2009 graphics. I dislike the sims appearance, particularly the males, but that is a personal taste thing.

Sims 3 also isnt border line super realistic, there is a lot of cartoony ness still there, I just feel a lot of the base game animations are robotic since they were mostly copy pasted from sims 2.

They really stepped up their animation game later in development though.

I think the Sims 3 art style in general was all over the place, some things looked stylised, other things looked like they were on the verge of realism, and some things just looked completely rough, outdated and out of place. It's not a bad looking game by any means, but comparing the games appearance to The Sims 4, or even The Sims 2 with how consistent the art styles of those games are, The Sims 3 isn't going to age as well as Sims 4 will.

I'd like to see some picture examples here, because I've been playing the game for 8 years now and I have no idea what you're referring to. Maybe I got used to it, but I'm really curious to see what you mean. The art style looks quite consistent to me. As far as I'm concerned Sims 3 ages pretty well by the way (considering it's almost ten years old now). Wouldn't know in what way I'd like it different art style wise. Sims 4 graphics are sharper but in other areas it looks horrible. When we're talking about 'all over the place', Sims 4 rather is in that respect.

http://twinfinite.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/ballpit.png

https://i.imgur.com/rbsyY1l.png

I agree with you. These pics make me think of someone trying to enlarge a pic from an old game and it turns out horrible because it just doesn't have enough pixels. I'm sure we've all done that before like take a screen shot and then enlarge an old game. That ball pit and bowl in TS4 look like it was built for a much smaller screen, where we wouldn't notice so much the lack of pixels. And we probably wouldn't on a tiny phone screen (less than phone screen sizes today) lol.

To the person who said Twitter invented in 2006, I knew someone would have to say that, I knew that but was too lazy to say 2000 and 2006 for VR and then Twitter. The point was no one was on Twitter in 2006 and it took over ten years for 'suddenly' everyone to be on Twitter (if they are) and wasn't even a 'thing' in 2006 and not enough for people to know it even exsisted. It took years, just like it will take years for VR.

FB in 2004 yeah, but EA wasn't. And EA wasn't on Twitter in 2006, and EA hasn't developed any VR games yet either that I know about, so that was the point, EA is always behind the curve. It took them years to use FB and Twitter and though VR is the wave of the future EA is convinced it's Cloud gaming foreva.

ETA: But my personal opinion, anyone can build a game these days like an app and all these big companies may be wishing average Joe didn't have that ability because I predict everyday people will over take the gaming industry by storm and in the next few years you see all sorts of games pop up for phone and tablet built by one or two people and big companies wind up competing with average Joe.

"Cinebar;c-16425495" wrote:


To the person who said Twitter invented in 2006, I knew someone would have to say that, I knew that but was too lazy to say 2000 and 2006 for VR and then Twitter. The point was no one was on Twitter in 2006 and it took over ten years for 'suddenly' everyone to be on Twitter (if they are) and wasn't even a 'thing' in 2006 and not enough for people to know it even exsisted. It took years, just like it will take years for VR.

That would be me.

By 2007 Twitter had over 400,000 tweets posted per quarter and was the 3rd highest ranking social-networking site on the web by 2009. So someone was using it and it didn't take 10 years to "take off', but I get your point.

Whereas VR has been around in some capacity since the late 50's early 60's and is still struggling to get off the ground. At the moment, virtual reality is mostly seen as a novelty (an expensive one at that), but I'm sure at some point it will catch on - it's just a question of when.

I'm not sure if anyone here uses SL, but they released the VR based platform Sansar a while back, which to date has been a critical flop. Whereas on the flipside of that - VRchat has done quite well.

EA may very well come out with some popular (mass produced) VR based games in the future. How or IF that technology is somehow implemented into the Sims series remains to be seen.