Sims 4 introducing "disabled sims"?

Personally I'd like the option to have disabilities in my game. I feel like every time I make a sim of myself she's ok but, 1) I have a little bit of a limp due to a leg problem I have and 2) I have a mild learning disability (it's a form of dyslexia is the short version)... also maybe ADHD but never got diagnosed so I'm not entirely sure what it is.

Point is, i'd like to be able to pick some kind of traits sets/walk styles that reflect who I am. Like my sims are always too outgoing and consistent, they don't get distracted from their tasks easily, and they don't walk with a limp. Even if I'm not talking specifically about making my simself, I'd like the option to be able to make sims like the people I know, or make my sims more diverse.

They don't even need to start big, maybe have wheelchairs, prosthetic limbs, blind sims, deaf sims, and sims that are unable to speak added. The blind sims could use walking canes, if you have pets you could train a seeing eye pet, and sign language could be added for sims who are deaf and/or unable to speak. There could even be an option for other sims to learn sign language to communicate with these sims.

Side point; it also makes me super uncomfortable to hear others say things like "I don't want to think about this, it shouldn't be in the game", I understand this. But I feel like it should be an option. You should be able to make a sim with a disability in CAS if they are added.

"Tentacrocacles;c-17301038" wrote:
Personally I'd like the option to have disabilities in my game. I feel like every time I make a sim of myself she's ok but, 1) I have a little bit of a limp due to a leg problem I have and 2) I have a mild learning disability (it's a form of dyslexia is the short version)... also maybe ADHD but never got diagnosed so I'm not entirely sure what it is.

Point is, i'd like to be able to pick some kind of traits sets/walk styles that reflect who I am. Like my sims are always too outgoing and consistent, they don't get distracted from their tasks easily, and they don't walk with a limp. Even if I'm not talking specifically about making my simself, I'd like the option to be able to make sims like the people I know, or make my sims more diverse.

They don't even need to start big, maybe have wheelchairs, prosthetic limbs, blind sims, deaf sims, and sims that are unable to speak added. The blind sims could use walking canes, if you have pets you could train a seeing eye pet, and sign language could be added for sims who are deaf and/or unable to speak. There could even be an option for other sims to learn sign language to communicate with these sims.

Side point; it also makes me super uncomfortable to hear others say things like "I don't want to think about this, it shouldn't be in the game", I understand this. But I feel like it should be an option. You should be able to make a sim with a disability in CAS if they are added.

To be fair though, it is usually a person with some sort of disability or illness saying this. (Myself included) Because some of us (myself included) play the game to relax, unwind and forget. Not re-live the struggle of our daily existence. We aren't saying it out of a place of hate, we are saying it out of a place where we just want to be something else for awhile. A fantasy. Being "normal" and not having to worry about what ever is ailing us. Have some good old light hearted silly sims fun. It's not that we are trying to forget these people exists or shun them, it's just that some of us are those people and we don't want to be reminded while we relax is all. It shouldn't make you uncomfortable that I want to escape me for a few hours just as it doesn't make me uncomfortable that you want to have yourself represented better.

I just don't trust them to do this right either, it will always piss someone off how it's done so it's better to just leave it as is. Someone will be left out and sad, some with be included and be sad. It's a situation they will never win.

I think the statement that "most of the people with a disability Do Not want this in the game" I think is an inaccurate generalization. I have noticed an increasing number of those with disabilities and health issues (myself included) who WOULD like to see disabilities included. Even my mother (who used to play the Sims 3) was disappointed that, at no stage was there ever an option to create a disabled sim. She always wanted to be able to have a sim in a wheelchair (like her), but was never given that option.

I understand some people have concerns about how it would be done. I also understand that some people don't want to be reminded of the struggles they face daily. But others of us would love the opportunity to play a sim, with a disability, that lives a life different to our own. It's our own form of escape - to play a life similar, but different, to our own. To do the things we can't do in our real lives.

The option to turn off disabilities in game would be a compromise. So those who want disabled sims in game can have them, but those who don't can choose not to have them.

As somebody with a mental disability I'm always being treated as if I don't have a disability. I have a friend who has terrible schizophrenia. He's so paranoid that people are out to get him, even though he knows the voices aren't real. I would want to see (ha ha) the invisible disabilities in Sims 4. Even if they were handled badly it would be better than pretending they don't exist.

There's also a number of learning disabilities that aren't necessarily just about difficulty reading and counting. Some come on a severe sliding scale where a person would need support throughout their entire life, unable to get dressed and eat without help. Frustrating? Yes. Hard work? Yup. Different way to play? Very much so.

How about getting a job as a Zero Hours care worker?

Everything ticks somebody off now, although I've noticed SJWs find attacking majorities more satisfying than defending minorities.

"Loanet;c-17301207" wrote:
As somebody with a mental disability I'm always being treated as if I don't have a disability. I have a friend who has terrible schizophrenia. He's so paranoid that people are out to get him, even though he knows the voices aren't real. I would want to see (ha ha) the invisible disabilities in Sims 4. Even if they were handled badly it would be better than pretending they don't exist.

There's also a number of learning disabilities that aren't necessarily just about difficulty reading and counting. Some come on a severe sliding scale where a person would need support throughout their entire life, unable to get dressed and eat without help. Frustrating? Yes. Hard work? Yup. Different way to play? Very much so.

How about getting a job as a Zero Hours care worker?

Everything ticks somebody off now, although I've noticed SJWs find attacking majorities more satisfying than defending minorities.

I have to disagree there, I have saw my illness be used in let’s plays before and it’s incredibly Insulting, patronising and shows how ignorant people can be about mental health as well. I appreciate for everyone with a disability saying they don’t want it for reasons like mine; there are people with disabilities saying the opposite and that’s okay, but I would not want them to add it in even if it’s done badly. That’s disrespectful and insulting. They didn’t handle adding gender options in badly, they shouldn’t half ass adding disabilities.

@MidnightAura and at @Camkat that's is why I believe that the Grus who create the Sims games for us, want us, disabled folks, to talk to them about how to portray our variouslyabilities in a good light. AT @Camkat like others have already said that some people want disabilities to be seen like they're just like everyone else that those of us who actual want disabilities in the game (and I understand not everyone does) want us to be seen as part of the world we live in and not something that should be hidden away someplace which is what society thinks of most of us at the moment.

@MadameLee I'd be ok with a toggle of sorts because then I wouldn't have to deal with it, but I still don't think they'd do it right. I guess I would have to see in game and proven wrong. There will always be someone forgotten or not represented properly and the way people play sometimes, some down right offensive content could be made. It already has been as @MidnightAura pointed out and it's not even included in the game yet. I know it's not EA's job to police simmers and how they play the game or what they post to twitch or youtube, but I don't think they should make it easy for us to be made fun of either.

@Camkat and I think that is what Grant said they would be adding an off switch (but mostly like others said that most of us who want disablities in the game just want the option for it in CAS and the various "Supports" (SL, service animal, special counters/stoves/sinks,etc) they would need in their real world.

"Camkat;c-17301053" wrote:

I just don't trust them to do this right either, it will always plum someone off how it's done so it's better to just leave it as is. Someone will be left out and sad, some with be included and be sad. It's a situation they will never win.

I agree. Although some people are calling out for representation, people will be very upset if the representation isn't to their liking. Online this could so easily turn into 'EA hates disabled people/into eugenics/really offensive/boycott' and spread by people who know nothing of the context or implementation.

To be honest even with things that are not controversial the forums are generally never happy. Whatever they implement will be bad, negative reaction framed by nostalgia - either for a rl world that never was, or a rosy-tinted view of a previous game.

I'm deaf, I don't mind deaf in the game, but I don't do readlip, something I don't get it in all my life, all I see mouth/touge moving and I don't understand at all, I just used phone to text or write paper to hearing peoples. if disable is in game, don't gave it downside, and it's should option. when I said downside, I mean deaf can do as much hearing sims can do, but upside, like deaf can dance to music if music is loud cause room shake it up or soundwave on floor, they felt on floor and wall shake yet they can sleep thought loud tvs, vampire, and even fire alarm but fire can't harm them, vampire can't drain deaf sims, deaf immune to troublemaker magic from spellcaster, ect, same for any kind of disable. Basic just gave benefits to disable more than normal sims, more superpower than normal sims that way, maybe some people might not felt hurt by this but maybe not, but for me, it's not much matter to me, it's don't had to be in game, Sims 4 game is petty much good game, beside need fixing bug here and there.

I couldn't care whatever it's in or not as long there is solution and do not block opportunity something that many disable people do not had opportunity in real life, like high career job or even dating or even create family. I think disable people like me do not like to be cast out, left out and no opportunity to grow, whatever it's career, income, relationship, ect, if that is in game, then yes it's would be bad and do remain disable just like real life, no opportunity or block growing in career or income, and important one relationship with other human who are not disable. I am petty much broken, and got used to it, I got good people helped me, but it's was never enough bring me to joy as I'm sort of feel and am trapped in this world system, unable to grow or improve. Oh well, as I said I used to it and numbed to it. Sims 4 Sims had easiest life than real world, all rights beside freewill and it's not real but fantasy.

disable people are just people, one disable people might don't like, while other disable people might love it, other is so-so but in the end, most important is had compassion on all, whatever one able and ability strong to had compassion on all, not some.

Edit: Sims 4 is like almost better than this real life world, where disable do not exist where every sims are healthly, Petty much Sims world can be far better than this real world, because of fantasy, maybe sims do not had a disable in their near perfect world.